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Around The NHL Part XXX
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I am simply reporting on the facts.
I do think it's unlikely that Columbus trades him within their division (the permanent division, not the Covid divisions). But if Eichel's on the market, I think having Dubois out there would help with the price.
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Pierre-Luc Dubois signs new deal with Blue Jackets, but desire for trade remains
"One source told The Athletic that the relationship between Dubois and the Blue Jackets changed during negotiations this fall."
"As a restricted free agent, Dubois was allowed to speak with other NHL franchises since free agency began on Oct. 9. Dubois did not sign an offer sheet, obviously, but the Blue Jackets were extremely wary of one, which is why they traded defensemen Ryan Murray and Markus Nutivaara at liquidation prices on the eve of free agency.
It was in these discussions with other clubs, apparently, that Dubois’ desire to leave Columbus was made clear."
"One source told The Athletic that the relationship between Dubois and the Blue Jackets changed during negotiations this fall."
"As a restricted free agent, Dubois was allowed to speak with other NHL franchises since free agency began on Oct. 9. Dubois did not sign an offer sheet, obviously, but the Blue Jackets were extremely wary of one, which is why they traded defensemen Ryan Murray and Markus Nutivaara at liquidation prices on the eve of free agency.
It was in these discussions with other clubs, apparently, that Dubois’ desire to leave Columbus was made clear."
Feels a little like what happened between Kyle Turris and Arizona. Sign to be traded.
Division or no division, I’m first on line here.
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He would be a great fit for the Rangers. I’ll be curious to see what the ask is though. It’ll no doubt be high. The question is whether it drifts into over-priced territory and by how much.
We don't have as much to offer as a lot of other teams do, not in terms of proven young guns. We'd have to overpay the potential overpay just to beat out other clubs.
I'd say DeAngelo, but they'll want Fox. Strome as a temp C solution if we retain salary maybe, but that's a throw-in. Kakko, Chytil, Lundkvist, Miller, Kravstov, 1st rounders... not a hell of a lot we can throw at this.
So we'd have to give up a LOT to match what other clubs can do with less, imo.
I'd say DeAngelo, but they'll want Fox. Strome as a temp C solution if we retain salary maybe, but that's a throw-in. Kakko, Chytil, Lundkvist, Miller, Kravstov, 1st rounders... not a hell of a lot we can throw at this.
So we'd have to give up a LOT to match what other clubs can do with less, imo.
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Plus, if you ask me, McQuaid was pretty good for us. Even if just for sticking up for Georgiev.
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1st/2nd ranked prospect system but somehow we wouldn’t be able to match an offer...
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We can match any offer when it comes to prospects. The question is whether we want to or not.
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Totally fair consideration in this hypothetical. I would agree. But saying we would be incapable of matching is quite a far fetched view. And also I have argued many times when Eichel was brought up, we would not have to give up Kakko or Lafreniere. We have enough assets to make a deal without those two AND be able to compete with any offer. But like you said, it comes down to desire to make the deal happen.
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I think that is understandable and reasonable tbh. That is a lot of high enough* profile pieces to obtain Eichel. And with us already having the Big 4, trading 2 of the other pieces is something we can weather. Obviously, I wish we could move Strome over Buchnevich but I can see why Buffalo would prefer the latter. In these trades the team moving the star player never gets the equivalent back in 1 player. And they certainly do not get the equivalent back in each player, otherwise, why would the acquiring team make the deal. So I know some may say an offer of Kravtsov, Lundkvist, Chytil, Buch is not enough but quite frankly its spot on. No over the hill players in that deal. Buffalo is getting 2 NHL pieces in the 21-25 range, and 2 more that will very likely be NHL pieces. That is how you fill out a roster for years to come.
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Is Dubois really a center or another guy being forced there because fans want someone other than Strome? I ask because Hockey-ref lists him as a LW and he has horrible faceoff percentages.
I'm not saying all of that, I'm just thinking about what the ask would be. A 22 year old affordable RFA prime C... they're gonna want something proven along with prospects/picks. The only player of that age who has proven himself to be a star in the making is Fox. All the rest are unproven. We'd have to give up more to compete with clubs who do have young proven players to offer in exchange. That's all I'm saying. Chytil, Kakko, Kravstov... potential. Nothing proven. We know what they CAN be, but Dubois already is something. I don't see Columbus taking something like Strome, Kravstov and a 1st. I'm sure they'll have more enticing offers. Price will be steep.
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There’s a difference between what a player’s hypothetical value is when a trade is a pure fantasy and what an acceptable package would be when such scenario becomes a reality and there’s no choice but to move a player. ADA, Buchnevich and Strome is an excellent place to start before even getting to prospects and picks (where the Rangers have a clear advantage of competition)
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Hes is very much a center and a very good one on line to be a great one.
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I mean, whether we want to admit it or not, they're going to need to figure out a long-term solution at center to go with the current young core of players they have now. It doesn't necessarily have to be this year, but it could realistically be by next year with Mika/Strome only having two years left on their deals.
With names like Dubois and Eichel potentially out there, we're one of the few teams with the assets and cushion to be able to pull that move off. It'll be a costly move, but one that I think will be worthwhile.
With names like Dubois and Eichel potentially out there, we're one of the few teams with the assets and cushion to be able to pull that move off. It'll be a costly move, but one that I think will be worthwhile.
The f*** is this?
Name 3 teams with these proven young guns who the Rangers can't match?
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