Around The NHL Part XXVIII

[NYR]

why is Luke Schenn still in the NHL

Because he's obviously playing a meaningful role on a SC team..

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Isles have a horrible cap situation, a mediocre farm and were a bad team for most of the regular season.

They've been able to take advantage of a weird and unique situation and some favorable matchups. I'd bet on them missing the playoffs next year. They were well on their way to doing it this year and an already old team is going to be even older.

Point getting hurt and a questionable suspension are the only reasons why the Isles aren't finished yet.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Maybe not, but Barzal is probably the best puck-moving forward in the NHL sans McDavid. He’d be amazing in a system that actually prioritizes offense.

If by 'puck moving' you mean dipsy doodling, then sure.

 

[Tob]

The Islanders have a lot of fight in them. Not over until it's over. Hopefully Point is okay.

 

[NYR]

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[KirkAlbuquerque]

Isles have a horrible cap situation, a mediocre farm and were a bad team for most of the regular season.

They've been able to take advantage of a weird and unique situation and some favorable matchups. I'd bet on them missing the playoffs next year. They were well on their way to doing it this year and an already old team is going to be even older.

Point getting hurt and a questionable suspension are the only reasons why the Isles aren't finished yet.

Let’s wait till they’re eliminated before writing their obituary.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Let’s wait till they’re eliminated before writing their obituary.

They've been outplayed in all 4 games so far and generated almost nothing in this game (after a big win) until it was practically over.

They're cooked.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

This Isle's run feels a lot more like that Ottawa run than anything else

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

This Isle's run feels a lot more like that Ottawa run than anything else

This x100000000.

I wouldn't expect the wheels to fall off completely for the Isles like they did for Ottawa, but they really aren't that good of a team. The larger sample size this year (the regular season) was not good.

 

[NYR]

Isles have a horrible cap situation, a mediocre farm and were a bad team for most of the regular season.

They've been able to take advantage of a weird and unique situation and some favorable matchups. I'd bet on them missing the playoffs next year. They were well on their way to doing it this year and an already old team is going to be even older.

Point getting hurt and a questionable suspension are the only reasons why the Isles aren't finished yet.

I think your blind hatred for certain things completely prevents you from forming a realistic opinion in reality.

The NYR have a salary cap nightmare on their hands too.

Favorable matchups?
They have a team of misfits and they're still hanging with arguably the best team in the league.

Sorry.. I'm just not getting your line of thinking and don't think I ever will..

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I think your blind hatred for certain things completely prevents you from forming a realistic opinion in reality.

The NYR have a salary cap nightmare on their hands too.

Favorable matchups?
They have a team of misfits and they're still hanging with arguably the best team in the league.

Sorry.. I'm just not getting your line of thinking and don't think I ever will..

They've had control for like 10% of this series by a team that hasn't gotten a healthy period out of their best player since early 2nd period of game 2. This series is the least the Bolts have been pushed by any of their opponents with out a healthy Point for most of it.

NYR salary cap is not a nightmare. They have almost double the space that the Isles do and don't have to sign their best player this offseason. Barzal is slated to take almost all of that money, and 2 of their top 4 D are also due contracts.

I know you love to gush about the Isles and everything they're doing, but it's clear to anyone who has been paying attention this year that this run is a fluke and their team isn't very good. Credit to them for taking advantage of it, but this won't happen again anytime soon unless they somehow find some suckers to take some of their horrendous multi year contracts off of their hands and they find some way to acquire actual difference makers (they don't really have the capital to do it.)

Good luck with that

 

[NYR]

They've had control for like 10% of this series by a team that hasn't gotten a healthy period out of their best player since early 2nd period of game 2. This series is the least the Bolts have been pushed by any of their opponents with out a healthy Point for most of it.

NYR salary cap is not a nightmare. They have almost double the space that the Isles do and don't have to sign their best player this offseason. Barzal is slated to take almost all of that money, and 2 of their top 4 D are also due contracts.

I know you love to gush about the Isles and everything they're doing, but it's clear to anyone who has been paying attention this year that this run is a fluke and their team isn't very good. Credit to them for taking advantage of it, but this won't happen again anytime soon unless they somehow find some suckers to take some of their horrendous multi year contracts off of their hands and they find some way to acquire actual difference makers (they don't really have the capital to do it.)

Good luck with that

So we're gonna use the "their best player" excuse all while having a team of nobodies?
Kk lol.

The NYR have double the cap?
Who are they going to sign?
Another 3rd pairing LD? Lol

I hate the Isles more than anyone but you wouldn't know much about that because you weren't even born yet.
SMH lol

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Edit: not worth it

 

[bl02]

They've been outplayed in all 4 games so far and generated almost nothing in this game (after a big win) until it was practically over.

They're cooked.

I think game 2 could have gone either way. I think the Islanders could have easily won that game. Some may say losing Point and Kilorn for pretty much entire game could have had something to with that which would be fair to say.
If both teams are at 100 percent ( I know that is impossible in playoffs) the Lighting win in 4 maybe 5.

 

[leetch99]

I definitely don't disagree, last year or the year before I was saying the Rangers should flex their financial strength and just steal Ottawa's whole staff

I have said that for a few years now...no reason why we can't have the best and largest most thorough scouting and coaching staff in the league . It's not like we don't have the money . The Sens have done well and scouting is always vital as is development which is equally important . Our next 2-3 drafts will be REALLY important and will determine our fate in the next 5-7 years when we have to have an influx of younger talent on cheap deals . Penguins won Cups bringing in young guys ....was not just their stars .

 

[NYR]

Edit: not worth it

Good grief.. Why is it not worth it?
You can't come up with a realistic answer?
No arguments..At least tell me who you think they're gonna sign to help fill in the holes with all this cap space?
2C and 4C specifically..
If you've been watching the playoffs, keep in mind they both need to be solid (2!) way players.
OK go..

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I think game 2 could have gone either way. I think the Islanders could have easily won that game. Some may say losing Point and Kilorn for pretty much entire game could have had something to with that which would be fair to say.
If both teams are at 100 percent ( I know that is impossible in playoffs) the Lighting win in 4 maybe 5.

Yeah If you can’t score on a 5 min pp and get outplayed at 5v5 by a team with 9 forwards for most of the game, you don’t deserve to win.

could you imagine if this happened to us? This place would have gone nuclear.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I have said that for a few years now...no reason why we can't have the best and largest most thorough scouting and coaching staff in the league . It's not like we don't have the money . The Sens have done well and scouting is always vital as is development which is equally important . Our next 2-3 drafts will be REALLY important and will determine our fate in the next 5-7 years when we have to have an influx of younger talent on cheap deals . Penguins won Cups bringing in young guys ....was not just their stars .

why do i envision beer tabs as the top expense for our scouting staff?

 

[Machinehead]

The Knights were 1st in xGF%, Tampa 2nd, and Dallas 6th. Pretty satisfied with that.

The Islanders were 18th but Trotz breaks hockey, we've seen that before.

 

[Machinehead]

The Isles are only a "Point" or two away from becoming the next Boston IMO.
No I'm not a fan and despise both of these teams on a defcon 1 kind of level but you have to give credit where due.
On paper, this should've been a 4 game sweep..

The Islanders are only arguably the best player in the league right now away from winning the Cup?

So are 20 other teams.

 

[NYR]

I have said that for a few years now...no reason why we can't have the best and largest most thorough scouting and coaching staff in the league . It's not like we don't have the money . The Sens have done well and scouting is always vital as is development which is equally important . Our next 2-3 drafts will be REALLY important and will determine our fate in the next 5-7 years when we have to have an influx of younger talent on cheap deals . Penguins won Cups bringing in young guys ....was not just their stars .

This is where I have all the faith in JD.
If he builds it, they will come..

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

The Knights were 1st in xGF%, Tampa 2nd, and Dallas 6th. Pretty satisfied with that.

The Islanders were 18th but Trotz breaks hockey, we've seen that before.

He does, but the circumstances have played into them making it this far.

If Covid doesnt happen, they miss the playoffs entirely.

 

[NYR]

The Islanders are only arguably the best player in the league right now away from winning the Cup?

So are 20 other teams.

Look at this completely one- sided matchup.
It's David and Goliath x100.
Yet they're still holding their own.
Why can't you f***ers just admit that they're a good team led by solid coaching?
It's not that difficult an equation...

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Look at this completely one- sided matchup.
It's David and Goliath x100.
Yet they're still holding their own.
Why can't you f***ers just admit that they're a good team led by solid coaching?
It's not that difficult an equation...

I don't really think they're holding their own, and I think everyone believes they're a mediocre team buoyed by their system

 

[Machinehead]

Look at this completely one- sided matchup.
It's David and Goliath x100.
Yet they're still holding their own.
Why can't you f***ers just admit that they're a good team led by solid coaching?
It's not that difficult an equation...

You've said yourself that this is a mismatch.

They hung around in game 2 when Tampa had 9 forwards and they really, really should have won. They got dominated in game 4 and got bitch choked in game 1.

The Islanders are a solid team and they have a great coach but I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make here. You admit that Tampa is on another level and everyone can see it.