Amazing Kreiderman
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Around The NHL Part XXVII
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Nah I am with you on this. Its a good thing we didn't sign him to that contract. I was only speaking about this playoffs for TB. He has been a stud. They just want that cup this year and I bet their fan base won't care about year 3.
aufheben
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To be fair, this Islanders team is like the 2002 Red Wings compared to what they usually are. Transforming the Islanders into a solid team is actually quite the feat.
However I feel like the fact that they have a 4th liner wearing an ‘A’ says a lot about them.
Oscar Lindberg
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Lou’s not going to be around to care that he got the Isles in cap hell
Chytilmania
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When is Gorton going to get some GM love? He turned this franchise around in 3 years from worst prospect pool to best.
Once the team starts showing some tangible results in the success department he'll get more recognition. Not saying that to disparage him at all. It's just the way things are.
PuckLuck3043
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I think most people give Gorton credit for what he has done so far. Many people who know hockey understand that the Rangers are going to be force in this league in the near future.
Maximus
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Me thinks Torts was robbed as he easily should have won the award for best coach. What he did with a team that lost 3 of it's biggest stars and than subsequently lost 400 man power games due to injury and yet he still had the Jackets right in the thick of a playoff spot was nothing short of miraculous.
No huge biggie as I'm sure Torts nor myself will lose any sleep over this but one has to believe that Torts adversarial relationship with the media and the league is what cost him what should have been a well deserved award.
No huge biggie as I'm sure Torts nor myself will lose any sleep over this but one has to believe that Torts adversarial relationship with the media and the league is what cost him what should have been a well deserved award.
Maximus
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I'm thinking beginning next season when the Rangers make the playoffs legitimately and the "rebuild/retool" really starts to bear fruit in what should be the first of a decade long run, that's when Gorton will start to get some well deserved public acknowledgment for the phenomenal job he's done.
Until than it will just be us and hockey insiders who know their shit who know Gorton is one of the top GM's in the league.
PuckLuck3043
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Exactly. We already have some high end talent in Mika, Panarin, Fox, Shesty, Kakko, TDA, plus guys like Chytil, Kreider, Trouba, Lindgren.... Then you add pieces like LAF(soon to be) Kravtsov, and Barron you have the makings of a pretty good young team. Thats not even taking into account any moves that Gorton makes and the abundance of D prospects we have that are a year or 2 away. There is no doubt in my mind that the Rangers will be a serious contender in as little as 2 years.
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Irishguy42
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Pretty much. Telling people how to root for sports teams is incredibly dumb. It's the "true fan" mentality and it's absolute trash. Sorry Maximus, it just is!
So what if you're a Rangers fan who is rooting for the Isles in this series. Being a fan of one team doesn't automatically prevent you from rooting for another, short term or long term, in any sport.
It's your sports fandom, do what you want with it.
Amazing Kreiderman
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Personally, I don't give a flying f*** who wins since it doesn't impact our 1st rounders anymore. I think it's pretty ridiculous when people care more about other teams losing than their own team winning but maybe that's just me.
Irishguy42
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I'm rooting for the Isles to win because I think it's much more hilarious if Tampa keeps losing and not winning a Cup with this core.
Maximus
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Listen I get it and maybe it's because I've been around longer than you and @haveandare and while in college in the early to mid 80's, the Islanders pretty much every year broke mine and every other Ranger fans hearts by beating us in the playoffs and than to make it worse, than going on to win a Cup, that it doesn't compute for any Ranger fan or at least this Ranger fan, to want anything good to happen for the Islanders.
My hatred for that franchise runs long and deep and so even tho they have sucked for the most part and have had very little success since 1984, I can never ever root for them to win anything at anytime. This is not a criticism as it's just the way it is, but you or any younger Ranger fan who wasn't around like I was have no idea the pain and embarrassment us Ranger fans felt getting beaten by our arch rivals 4 out 5 years. I mean it didn't get much worse than that. Heck as dirty as I felt rooting for the hated Flyers last round was better than hoping for the Islanders advance.
So I get why younger Ranger fans might not have the detest that someone like me has seeing there really hasn't been a true rivalry like it used to be even as late as the early to mid 90's. Guarantee once both our franchises start to play in he playoffs again which I'm confident will happen, you'll truly know what hating the Islanders is like. Till than, people like you will look at the Islanders as a division rival and meh...big deal.
Playoff matchups is what cements a rivalry and we haven't played the Isles in playoffs since 1994 on our way to our only Cup. Sweeping them by the way was absolutely glorious and one of the best things about that Cup run.
So maybe that gives you a little background on why I have a very hard time understanding how any Ranger fan could possibly root for the Islanders to win a even a game, a playoff series let alone a Cup like @haveandare said he was going to do.
Obviously you do what you want to do and root for whoever it is your heart delights. But do know when you publicly root for the Islanders in particularly here on our board, your going to get confronted about it not in a mean way but you'll be questioned as I did.
Anyways, hope that helps y'all understand where I'm coming from.
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Edge
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For the most part, I am fairly agnostic when it comes to teams outside the Rangers.
I "rooted" for the Islanders only so much as it could help the Rangers at the draft. While I don't see myself rooting for any of the Rangers rivals under normal circumstances, it's pretty much background noise for me when there's not a direct impact on my team.
I "rooted" for the Islanders only so much as it could help the Rangers at the draft. While I don't see myself rooting for any of the Rangers rivals under normal circumstances, it's pretty much background noise for me when there's not a direct impact on my team.
Irishguy42
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Maximus
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Maximus
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The guy was talking about hoping the Islanders won the Cup. That's a totally different animal than what your referring too here. Not even the same galaxy!
I could have sworn when I signed up for this gig to live and die with the Rangers that there was an unwritten rule and it is never to be broken and it was "Ranger fans are forbidden to root for the hated Islanders to win a Stanley Cup". I follow rules....lol
Edge
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Eh, I get it.
Can't say it's my hope. But at the end of the day I really don't have any strong emotions tied to it.
It's just kind of there for me, floating in the background.
Maximus
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Well that's you Edge. I know I'm not alone in this belief of mine far from it. Not sure how old your are or if you were around as I was in the early to mid 80's while Islanders were torching us on the way to winning their Cups but and maybe this is a flaw of mine but I haven't gotten over it and I never will either and that's OK.
I don't lose sleep about it nor has my life been effected by it. However when I see a Ranger fan rooting for the Islanders to win a Cup, I'm sorry my friend but it just doesn't compute and it never will.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
I know you're not alone. I'm just saying that I don't have a strong opinion either way.
Root against the Islanders, root for them, ignore them, it's all good with me. It's only weird for me when rooting against the Rangers, or to a lesser extent, rooting against a benefit for the Rangers.
Irishguy42
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Maximus
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I respect your dislike of the Islanders b/c of your history and whatever, but...don't sweat the small stuff like who other people outside your own sports fandom like to root for.
It's just sports, which in the end are meaningless.
I'm with you really I am. And as much as nutjob as I sound like right now, I'm really a mellow dude and really don't sweat the small stuff. In all honesty only a couple of things tho do fire me up and drive me nuts. The Jets and the Mets absolutely drive me bonkers which I'm sure you can understand. And a Ranger fan rooting for the Islanders. ....that's it!
Other than that...I'm Senor Mellow...lol
Oscar Lindberg
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I couldn't care less what happens with non-Ranger teams, but f*** Tampa
These guys have been chronic underachievers for the last half a decade. They're like the Golden State of the NHL with none of the championships to show for it
These guys have been chronic underachievers for the last half a decade. They're like the Golden State of the NHL with none of the championships to show for it
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