Around the NHL: Part XXV

[Filthy Dangles]

This 'movement' will most likely be gone after the election. The same thing happened in 2016... However it was no where near as violent.

There you go politicizing something that isn't political. You'll probably turn around and say it's the other side playing politics though.

 

[duhmetreE]

Never in my life, when hit with a complex, multi-layered New York Rangers or world problem, have I thought to myself.... Let me ask duhmetreE.... I wonder what his take is.

...yet here we are...

Yeah, I can appreciate you trying to be witty but your logic is flawed.

We're on a message board for the Rangers. Talking about the Rangers.....

 

[duhmetreE]

There you go politicizing something that isn't political. You'll probably turn around and say it's the other side playing politics though.

BLM is 100% potitical. It's donations are sent to ActBlue.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I feel like a lot of the deaths of protesters/innocent bystanders is glossed over and just mentioned in passing in dozens of articles. Or when you read a headline of "16 injured, 2 dead during protests", you probably don't bat an eye. Those articles/stories are not few and far between either.

I saw one earlier today about some guy who got killed and the headline was something along the lines of "Girlfriend of man who died during protests said he 'died for a noble cause'". That was maybe 2 hours ago, and now it's nowhere to be found on the site. On to the next story.

I don't think it's been glossed over at all.

But if you're tired of protests leading to violence (which not all, but a lot of has been ignited by the type of actions/people that are okay with the way things currently are), you should also be tired of cops turning arrests into murders which have led to these protests in the first place.

This whole thing has gone beyond politics or gatekeeping by media outlets. This shit needs to stop.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

real headlines....

 

[duhmetreE]

how'd you hear about it then?

???

Not a peep for the 'social justice leaders'. It gets limited news coverage compared to the inciting incidents

 

[TheDirtyH]

???

Not a peep for the 'social justice leaders'. It gets limited news coverage compared to the inciting incidents

I'll just take your word for it then.

 

[duhmetreE]

[QUOTE="Filthy Dangles, post: 173341312, member: 237725"

real headlines....[/QUOTE]
'Vigilante' .... protecting yourself from a mob after protecting a business...

Real News and the evidence that should be seen

I do not see how any of these charges will stick.

 

[eco's bones]

I'm not sure why some people don't like the idea of social justice. To me it's a great idea. The more equal we all are the better.

 

[duhmetreE]

I'm not sure why some people don't like the idea of social justice. To me it's a great idea. The more equal we all are the better.

Because social justice is a euphemism. Who would actually argue against social justice.. or any form of justice?

The problem lays with most wanting equal outcome, not equal opportunity...

Because the outcomes are not universal, there must be injustice. It's a flawed theory/argument.

 

[HFBS]

Very curious on how people would have reacted during the Civil Rights movements back in the day had technology of this level been around. Should I bet the over or under on how many people would have been saying the same things that are said now?

The difference is the 1960's civil rights movement was righteous and this is an excuse for criminals to act like savages. The number of cops shooting unarmed black men is something like 10 each year when blacks shooting each other is more like 10,000.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

real headlines....

Sadly, there will be posters who read them and not understand your point...

 

[LeetchisGod]

I'm not sure why some people don't like the idea of social justice. To me it's a great idea. The more equal we all are the better.

Often it is those who have very little social interaction with people from backgrounds other than their own. It's easier to dehumanize people when you don't know anyone like them personally.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

[QUOTE="Filthy Dangles, post: 173341312, member: 237725"

real headlines....

'Vigilante' .... protecting yourself from a mob after protecting a business...

Real News and the evidence that should be seen

I do not see how any of these charges will stick.[/QUOTE]

Still images with no context to what occurred before hand does not equal evidence. Also, Molotov cocktails usually burst into flames upon impact. Pretty sure that theory has been debunked.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

'Vigilante' .... protecting yourself from a mob after protecting a business...

Real News and the evidence that should be seen

I do not see how any of these charges will stick.

real headlines....

They'll stick. He traveled across states with a firearm with a felony and in Wisconsin you can't open carry if you're under 18. Plus the prosecutors should be able to argue premeditation and that he incited all of this. In this climate, he's not gonna get off with this.

Not to mention he fled the scene and went home.

The kid is screwed and just f***ed his life up. Sorry this is happening to your hero though.

 

[duhmetreE]

="GoAwayStaal, post: 173341721, member: 70174"]
Still images with no context to what occurred before hand does not equal evidence. Also, Molotov cocktails usually burst into flames upon impact. Pretty sure that theory has been debunked.

Alleged eye witness testimony and video evidence corroborates that he was running from the mob and tripped/fell.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Alleged eye witness testimony and video evidence corroborates that he was running from the mob and tripped/fell.

Where is this video evidence?

 

[JimmyG89]

They'll stick. He traveled across states with a firearm with a felony and in Wisconsin you can't open carry if you're under 18. Plus the prosecutors should be able to argue premeditation and that he incited all of this. In this climate, he's not gonna get off with this.

The kid is screwed and just f***ed his life up. Sorry it's happening to your hero though.

Maybe, but time will tell. He was being attacked in the videos that were put together by the NYT.

The other things will stick, the underage and the across state lines. Not sure about the others.

 

[LeetchisGod]

The difference is the 1960's civil rights movement was righteous and this is an excuse for criminals to act like savages. The number of cops shooting unarmed black men is something like 10 each year when blacks shooting each other is more like 10,000.

As I said before in this thread, cops should be held to a higher standard than criminals. Also the black on black crime argument is countered by the prevalence of white on white crime. The perpetrator and victim of most crimes belong to the same race because of segregated neighborhoods. There is less interaction of any kind between people of different races.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Maybe, but time will tell. He was being attacked in the videos that were put together by the NYT.

Doesn't matter, he broke other laws to begin with so he's culpable. He got what he wanted and he's gonna pay the price. If it's not murder/manslaughter, they're gonna throw the book at him for the other lesser charges. He'll be a felon and won't be able to legally own a gun (lol) among other things.

f*** him.

 

[duhmetreE]

They'll stick. He traveled across states with a firearm with a felony and in Wisconsin you can't open carry if you're under 18. Plus the prosecutors should be able to argue premeditation and that he incited all of this. In this climate, he's not gonna get off with this.

The kid is screwed and just f***ed his life up. Sorry it's happening to your hero though.

My hero? I can see your tribal brain cant have a conversation without logical fallacies?

Running from the mob and being attacked... 'premeditated'. You're blinded with a narrative.

 

[duhmetreE]

Doesn't matter, he broke other laws to begin with so he's culpable. He got what he wanted and he's gonna pay the price. If it's not murder/manslaughter, they're gonna throw the book at him for the other lesser charges. He'll be a felon and won't be able to legally own a gun (lol) among other things.

f*** him.

So, by your logic. The deaths caused by cops, which started these incidents, were justified? Because you know, they broke the law and resisted arrest prior? I know objective and critical thinking is hard when blinded with emotion

Lets continue with your logic. They should not have been rioting and looting. Therefore they incited getting shot.

 

[eco's bones]

Because social justice is a euphemism. Who would actually argue against social justice.. or any form of justice?

The problem lays with most wanting equal outcome, not equal opportunity...

Because the outcomes are not universal, there must be injustice. It's a flawed theory/argument.

Personally societies should always be built from the ground up and in a society that was fair at least the great majority of people would feel valued.....and not devalued. Our society has been off the rails for a while. It panders to the rich and privileges some way beyond the pale. It's not a fair country and it particularly hasn't been fair to minorities forever and it's not even gender fair. So maybe it is a euphemism for you but it's not for me.

 

[JimmyG89]

As I said before in this thread, cops should be held to a higher standard than criminals.

Absolutely, we need to address these things head on. I think everyone wants to remove awful cops.

Best way to get that done: Vote Locally.

Vote for your mayor, vote for your governor, your local politicians. They have the biggest impact on your neighborhood than anything. These are not federal cops killing people. This is local authorities. You want to fix those things, it's on the mayor, police commissioner. They get to sign the laws that impact the police. You want police to kill people less? Get the people in your local offices to make the changes necessary. If they don't, get them out of their position for someone that will. You want to root out bad cops, weaken their unions. They protect the worst, not the average.

Vote for local judges. They're the ones who have a say when one of these things do happen.

Federal legislation is not going to fix these things. These are community issues that are widespread throughout the country. A federal bill is not going to change interactions. This whole "important election" thing is bogus. They ALL are important. When I hear people talking about this, they are politically charged, not that they want you to decide on who you want to vote, but it is a call to vote for someone specific. Remember Vote or Die? Politically motivated. Not motivated by wanting people to decide, but that they need to make the choice they want them to make.

 

[Leetch3]

real headlines....