Boris Zubov
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Did you miss the entire NBA stance on Hong Kong?
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Did you miss the entire NBA stance on Hong Kong?
East Coast Bias
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Did I miss it? No. Do I love it? No. Does it mean they want Chinese dollars over American dollars (which is just some weird nationalist talking point)? No
Does it have anything to do with domestic issues? No.
Oscar Lindberg
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I think what the NBA did in China is shitty but people bringing that up as it relates to this situation is strange to me.
As I heard someone say yesterday, it's good to know all these people bringing it up have such a passion for human rights in China
As I heard someone say yesterday, it's good to know all these people bringing it up have such a passion for human rights in China
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Typical go-to conservative whataboutism talking point.
What exactly is their stance by the way? Silver has said it's not his business to tell other countries how to run their gov't but that he and the NBA support freedom of expression. Should they cut all business with china untill stuff changes? You make an argument for it.
Will you and other conservative stop using chinese products and electronics until stuff changes, I doubt it. Conservatives don't actually care, they just use it as a distraction and whatabout from BLM stuff.
East Coast Bias
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A 4 day long party in DC party, charged to the taxpayer, to celebrate a family of trust fund babies, during which more people died of COVID in America than died on 9/11, but LeBron James is the out of touch elitist.
lol
lol
Oscar Lindberg
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Boris Zubov
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Fine, let's minimize global human rights issues & focus solely on domestic issues. Why were these NBA players not boycotting to end the gun violence in the black communities that takes place on a daily basis way before the George Floyd incident?
East Coast Bias
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There's been plenty before. "I can't breathe" shirts. The hoodies during Trayvon Martin. This is hardly the first.
Maybe listen to some of what they're saying. Read about Sterling Brown on the Bucks. Might help you understand why its more personal to them than it is you.
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Ain't it ironic?
Isn't this break from hockey supposed to make us talk politics and what's going on in the world. Yet, on the biggest platform to talk hockey, we can't talk about what we're supposed to be talking about.
LeetchisGod
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Cops should be held to a higher standard than criminals.
Boris Zubov
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Typical millennial using catchphrases & labels because someone disagrees with their position. Because I don't like how the NBA or LeBron reacted after the Daryl Morely tweet, it makes me a conservative? I guess human rights only matter if they're on American soil?
JCProdigy
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Never in my life, when hit with a complex, multi-layered New York Rangers or world problem, have I thought to myself.... Let me ask duhmetreE.... I wonder what his take is.
...yet here we are...
Boris Zubov
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I do understand why it's personal to them, but this started with the post about them being hypocrites who have no problem endorsing sneakers made in Chinese slave factories. I just don't see the issues being mutually exclusive. These players have the platform to enact change for that situation as well, but they choose not to solely for financial reasons.
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Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Here's what came of the NBA players' 2-day absence:
I'd be surprised if we don't see similar from the NHL and MLB.
So, remind me again why people are complaining...?
I'd be surprised if we don't see similar from the NHL and MLB.
So, remind me again why people are complaining...?
Irishguy42
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Twenty f*ckin years
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Purge these f***ers from our leagues and our society
East Coast Bias
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Boris Zubov
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That article is pretty inconclusive. Until some hard facts & substantiated quotes come out, can we put away the pitch forks?
I feel like a lot of the deaths of protesters/innocent bystanders is glossed over and just mentioned in passing in dozens of articles. Or when you read a headline of "16 injured, 2 dead during protests", you probably don't bat an eye. Those articles/stories are not few and far between either.
I saw one earlier today about some guy who got killed and the headline was something along the lines of "Girlfriend of man who died during protests said he 'died for a noble cause'". That was maybe 2 hours ago, and now it's nowhere to be found on the site. On to the next story.
Nobody exists in a vacuum and you have to be weary of what kind of responsibility you put on individuals in relation to structural/systemic processes. You can't consume your way out of capitalism, and while it would be nice to imagine every mutli-million dollar athlete just giving up the vast majority of their earnings to fund solution driven programs, the reality is that no one can reasonably be asked to do so. We live in a world, wake up every day to a world, wherein five or six men could get on a conference call and solve world hunger. No one expects them to do that.
Of course it would be nice if athletes gave up their sponsorships in order to try to halt the inhumane treatment of workers in sweatshops that manufacture their products. But that's not how society should really run in the first place. If we want to get hung up on ideals, why waste a breath over millionaires when there are people (including those who sign the atheletes paychecks) with incomes that exceed theirs by multiples of 1-100,000?
I'm not a optimistic person, so I'm not really convinced that these boycotts (no matter their intention) can ever amount to more than a PR move. But by the same line of thinking, it's inconsequential to me whether or not they happen, and there's no reason for me to be anything but supportive of them because I realize that the issue they're drawing attention to (whether for their business's sake or the sake of the issue) is urgent.
Why would I care if they could do more or there are more things they can boycott? That discussion is the global-capitalism equivalent of all lives matter.
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We all already know that 'news' as an industry has accelerated itself into a model more akin to personal shopping than reportage. People will watch Fox news anchors complain about certain issues being subdued in their coverage or being ignored or glossed over. People will watch CNN and think the same thing. FFS the POTUS has a twitter account which he constantly uses to reference the suppression of his own ability to communicate information to citizens.
It's all ridiculous.
Raspewtin
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No way. There have been many, MANY articles detailing the turmoil of the protests and riots and the associated human cost. I don't know how you missed it.
What's your angle by bringing this up anyway?
I mean I can tell you first-hand that the BLM movement didn't disappear by any means after the last election. It may have received less media attention and there weren't nearly the amount of televised protests, but the people that can actually lay claim to "organizing" the movement have been very active these past four years.
It's just like the "Defund the Police" movement--people think it's some new thing but it has existed in grassroots community organizing for many years, in various forms.
None of this is new stuff. It won't go away, and even if media coverage wanes, the movement's base grows stronger.
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