Around The NHL Part XXIX

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I don’t have anything against Shattenkirk, and good for him to get his name on the cup. Let’s just not pretend like they didn’t win that cup in spite of him. It’s not like he turned into McDonagh overnight once he hit the Florida border. He played all year about as well as he would have played here, except here he would have been posterized nightly instead of playing on the third pairing behind the best dman in the league and another top 15 dman in the league, with the best goalie in the league to clean up his messes and one of the best offense in the league. Good for him winning, but a world beater he isn’t.
 
I have no feelings about Shattenkirk one way or another.

As for McDonagh, good for him but I also don’t have strong feelings.

The Lightning built a great team and McD is a big part of it, they traded for him to make a run at the cup and it paid off, only it took a couple more years than they hoped.
 
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Good for Kevin, he’s legitimately a good humble person unlike most pro athletes who don’t have a lot of time for people. I met him a couple times, and friends and acquaintances have the same experience. and an underrated defenseman.

you can’t fault him for the injury and not living up the contract but you can fault him for some of the digs at the Rangers and sort of taking business thing, personal.
 
if the NHL was smart, what are the chances of them starting the season with outdoor games on Jan 1 to start rhe season??. .
 
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I was talking with my friend from STL about Shattenkirk and we both agreed that he has resting %#% face which can rub people the wrong way. He also looks like Tom Sizemore (for you slightly younger kids he was a great character actor in the 90s think like John C. Reily without the comedy or Phillip Seymour Hoffman) ever since he accepted the hair loss. He's not a bad guy and I'm happy he won.

Look that's how it happens. Tomas Sandstrom grinded his ^#$#%# for this city during probably the most turbulent time in Rangers history (between Patrick and Smith) and he won a Cup with the Wings. Doug Lidster was a Canuck Captain who had his most success here. Jay Wells went from a rookie who was in that ridiculous 1981 playoff brawl with the Rangers-Kings to lifting a Cup in New York 13 years later. The list goes on and on.
 
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I think the thing with Shattenkirk that makes him easy to dislike, as a general hockey fan, is simply that you can watch him make really bad plays, cost his team big chances against (if not goals; depending on who is back there to bail them out) and then somehow, he gets those shots through traffic and they end up in the back of the net. Having a very talented team up front to provide traffic, collect rebounds, make tips, etc doesn’t hurt. But he somehow ends up on the scoresheet despite not making really jaw dropping feeds, not having a big one timer or awe inspiring shot overall, not creating offense off the rush or having great hands, not being an exceptionally fast or agile skater (not that he’s BAD at those things, he just isn’t a standout)... and yet, there he is, especially in these playoffs, contributing again and again.

So with that said, I think the issue most NYR fans have is that he did it pretty much everywhere he went except here, so everyone feels cheated. Especially because he was a self proclaimed fan and everyone thought playing where he dreamed of playing would somehow elevate him, when in fact (due to injuries or not) they were the most pedestrian games of his career.
 
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I think the thing with Shattenkirk that makes him easy to dislike, as a general hockey fan, is simply that you can watch him make really bad plays, cost his team big chances against (if not goals; depending on who is back there to bail them out) and then somehow, he gets those shots through traffic and they end up in the back of the net. Having a very talented team up front to provide traffic, collect rebounds, make tips, etc doesn’t hurt. But he somehow ends up on the scoresheet despite not making really jaw dropping feeds, not having a big one timer or awe inspiring shot overall, not creating offense off the rush or having great hands, not being an exceptionally fast or agile skater (not that he’s BAD at those things, he just isn’t a standout)... and yet, there he is, especially in these playoffs, contributing again and again.

So with that said, I think the issue most NYR fans have is that he did it pretty much everywhere he went except here, so everyone feels cheated. Especially because he was a self proclaimed fan and everyone thought playing where he dreamed of playing would somehow elevate him, when in fact (due to injuries or not) they were the most pedestrian games of his career.
idk. Just didn't work out for a lot of reasons out of our (and his) control. I don't have anything against him.
 
I don’t have anything against Shattenkirk, and good for him to get his name on the cup. Let’s just not pretend like they didn’t win that cup in spite of him. It’s not like he turned into McDonagh overnight once he hit the Florida border. He played all year about as well as he would have played here, except here he would have been posterized nightly instead of playing on the third pairing behind the best dman in the league and another top 15 dman in the league, with the best goalie in the league to clean up his messes and one of the best offense in the league. Good for him winning, but a world beater he isn’t.
As a Tampa fan, I completely agree. He is a great locker room guy. He is well below average defensively. In fact, he got owned many times in the playoffs. And beyond getting embarrassed on one-on-ones, he was repeatedly out of position in the defensive zone and failed to cover his man. But he provided the exact niche our unique roster needed: a third pairing PP specialist who can put pucks on net from the blue line (something Tampa has historically struggled with). A team that signs him next season to play on one of their top pairs will be immensely disappointed.
 
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