Around the NHL: Part XXI

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with an unregulated supplement market, which supplement manufacturer can we actually trust?
Good question. Now Foods, Source Naturals, Dr. Best, are reputable. There are a few others. And check ingredients for excipients. Less is better.

I recommend Dr. Best Chelated Magnesium in particular. Most magnesium acts as a laxative. Not this one. It's attached to an amino acid so it gets absorbed. And most everyone needs more magnesium. It's involved in over 300 biological processes in the body.

For more on supplementation read my article here....
The Importance Of Nutrients To An Aging Population And Beat Back Corona Or Any Virus
 
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Haven’t read thru the thread from yesterday and so maybe this has been discussed already. If not here’s the question I pose:

Do we want Carolina or the Philes this afternoon at the Coliseum?

Tough call seeing Philes are two points ahead of us with us having a game in hand on them whereas Canes are one point behind with with us having two games in hand on them.

I dunno now that I look at it a bit more closely, maybe it’s not such a tough call at all. First off we need to take care of our business vs the Debbies tonight and than it looks like we want Carolina to win in regulation with no stupid 3 point nights.

We want Montreal to figure out a way to beat a Florida in regulation as Carey Price morphs into Price circa 2015ish.

And finally we want Draisaitle, McDavid and company to be patient enough and figure out the Torts left wing lock and trap BS and beat them Jackets in regulation as well

All this happens, we could be sitting in a playoff spot by tomorrow morning and knowing we got Igor back.

Hmmmm....if I were these other teams and their fan bases, I’d be very concerned about what’s going on here in Rangerland as we are slowly but surely becoming a very dangerous hockey team....:nod:
 
Best to start with essential nutrients you might be short on. Vitamin D3, Magnesium, Iodine, Zinc, Vitamin K2. Large swaths of the population are insufficient or deficient in these. Also Selenium to a smaller extent.

Those who are aging or are already there, are short on CoQ10, ALA, Glutathione (NAC). Glutathione can't be supplemented, gets destroyed in stomach acid. NAC will increase your Glutathione stores. Glutathione is the most abundant and most poweful alley we have. It can recycle itself 100's of times. Vitamin C, only 4 times. It can also recycle other nutrients (Vitamin C and E, CoQ10, and ALA). Anyone and everyone who is sick or chronically ill, has been shown to be depleted this powerful antioxidant. Nothing works alone in the body and requires cofactors. So be sure to take all that I mentioned in moderate amounts. You're only looking to raise these nutrients to optimal levels

If interested, I wrote this recently regarding the elderly and their weakened state.
The Importance Of Nutrients To An Aging Population And Beat Back Corona Or Any Virus

It’s a good read. Maybe you could’ve added examples of specific nutrients (or what foods to find them) mentioned to help boosting immune system or address a particular problem. I took note of you mentioning magnesium because I also suffer of occasional and similar back problem.
 
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The point I was trying to make is that there are many wanna-be miraculous supplements on the market, some of which might indeed be helpful, but by no means miraculous. And some of the things that actually are effective are prescription-bound, like vitamin B12 (which needs to be administered via injection for those who have deficiency) or cytokines like G-CSF that are administered to patients with low counts of neutrophilic white blood cells, e.g. after chemotherapy.
Supplements are not miracle pills, but can perform miraculous recoveries if you suffer from a deficiency. Many trials on vitamins and nutrients are designed to fail on purpose by drug companies. The SELECT trial comes to mind. If you start with subjects who are not deficient or insufficient, what possible positive outcomes can come of that? In fact they can have negative effects, just like they did in that trial. Too much of a good thing is never good.

Here in the States, you need no script for B12, ALA, vitamin D, NAC or any nutrient. I know Europe is different.

The premise of supplementation is simple. To correct a deficiency or insufficiency. If you go to the doc and finds you are short on vitamin D, is he gonna tell you to go stand in the sun? No, he will give you a supplement. So they do have their place. The snake oil remark was a bit much.
 
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That's possible too. I'm 62 and as it happens Tuesday I see my doctor (every 6 months) and will talk to him about it. It's an issue with the potential to have an effect on life as we've become use to living in it. We are a society of individuals and not altogether independent of each other no matter what some might want to think. The more equably we share the stronger we will be in facing something like this. Again it's a strong argument for M4A and to speak of potential again everyone right up to the POTUS whether they contract it or not is vulnerable and right now we don't have an effective way of stopping its spread and as contagious as it seems to be it could be with us for a long time so getting a flu shot to combat it is essential but we might be talking 2 or 3 years down the line for that.
I feel kind of bad I keep replying to this while I should be studying for my ophtalmology exam on Monday, but I can't help it and the school might get cancelled anyway LOL.

With the most up to date info that I have from yesterday, it really doesn't seem to be that much more dangerous than the flu (which can still dangerous btw, so get your flu shot next Fall if you can!). So I have a hard time imagining this will affect the global society in the long run. In the short run, there will defnitely be more repercussions though. Right now, I would not be counting on seeing Stanley Cup play-offs this year. In fact, if I had to bet, I would bet against it.

The good news is that the vaccine might not be that far away. In fact, during the SARS coronavirus epidemic some 18 years ago, the work on the vaccine was started and made some headway, before the outbreak was contained, which meant the vaccine was shelved as it was no longer needed.

There is a reason this new coronavirus is named SARS2. Thus, all the previous work can now come into fruition in that the time needed to develop the vaccine might be significantly shorter as the vaccine will likely be similar to the one that was being developed Back then. Tho most optimistic estimates even speak about a few weeks. However, this does not take into account all the safety testing, first on animals and then on humans, that needs to take place before a worldwide-scale distribution. The safety testing could of course be skipped in case the situation got totally out of hand, which hopefully won't happen. But there is still a reasonable chance it could be fast-tracked so that the vaccine would be available towards the end of the summer.

There is also a chance that the epidemic will entirely die off during the summer and never come back as the virus doesn't seem to be doing well in high temperatures. But if it behaves in a similar way to the flu and comes back next season, it still might not be that bad. While coronaviruses are prone to new mutations (this is why we have 3 new types seriously affecting humans in the last 20 years), they do not mutate nearly as much as the flu virus. This would mean that unlike with the flu, a lasting immunity could be achieved either via vaccination or infection and poeple would not be in risk of getting infected again next year. This is obviously just a guess, but it seems plausible at this point.

In terms of effective therapy, we might already have it, we just do not know it yet. Developing a new antiviral agent against SARS2 might take 10 years or longer. But there is circumstantial evidence that some already existing antivirotics might be effective against it. We obviously do not know yet, as the only way of finding out for sure is conducting a double blind, placebo-controlled clinical study. However, the time needed to find out will be drastically shorter than 10 years as the safety profile of these drugs is already known. And who knows, maybe we will have a better idea in just a few months.
 
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It’s a good read. Maybe you could’ve added examples of specific nutrients (or what foods to find them) mentioned to help boosting immune system or address a particular problem. I took note of you mentioning magnesium because I also suffer of occasional and similar back problem.
Read my article here and the links provided within as well, if your serious about health.... The Importance Of Nutrients To An Aging Population And Beat Back Corona Or Any Virus

It's hard to diagnose what you specifically need. Most people are short on Vitamin D3 and magnesium. To a lesser extent Iodine, vitamin K2, zinc. And always start with a good multi-vitamin to cover all the bases. Naturelo One Daily is what I use. It uses good quality ingredients in very moderate amounts, so you are able take other additional supplements to reach optimal amounts without overdoing it.

Also if you read the comments below the article I wrote, I go into more detail about the worldwide epidemic of Vitamin D shortage. Vitamin D is much more important for the body than just bone health. It is used by every cell in your body involved with RNA and DNA.
 
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Supplements are not miracle pills, but can perform miraculous recoveries if you suffer from a deficiency. Many trials on vitamins and nutrients are designed to fail on purpose by drug companies. The SELECT trial comes to mind. If you start with subjects who are not deficient or insufficient, what possible positive outcomes can come of that? In fact they can have negative effects, just like they did in that trial. Too much of a good thing is never good.

Here in the States, you need no script for B12, ALA, vitamin D, NAC or any nutrient. I know Europe is different.

The premise of supplementation is simple. To correct a deficiency or insufficiency. If you go to the doc and finds you are short on vitamin D, is he gonna tell you to go stand in the sun? No, he will give you a supplement. So they do have their place. The snake oil remark was a bit much.

I am not familiar with the SELECT trial. However, I am not saying that taking supplements for vitamin, iron or other deficiencies is snake oil therapy. In fact, treating vitamin deficiencies is an established lege artis therapy. The same goes for iron for example. Don't see why anyone would suggest otherwise. I am sorry if I didn't make myslef clear before. For the same reason, I don't see why any new trial (such as the one you mentioned) should try to prove something that has already been proven.

However, it all depends on what kind of supplements we are talking about and in what situation. Some of them are indeed akin to snake oil. Collagen supplements for knee pain come to mind first. The idea that it is somehow magically transported from the stomach into joints is in direct contradiction to human physiology. As a protein, it gets broken down into aminoacids in the digestive system and these aminoacids are then just as likely to be used to create cartilage in the joints as they are to create insulin or any other protein. The same goes for B12 pills. Pretty much all B12 deficiencies are caused by atrophy of the mucous layer in the stomach. This makes it impossible to digest B12 and you need to take it in the form of intramuscular injection. I find it hard to believe you can buy those without prescription in the US (maybe I am wrong).

I could go on, but I hope I now have made myslef clear as to what I meant.

EDIT: It is virtually impossible for pharmaceutical companies to falsify outcomes of large, high profile clinical trials these days. Small trials can be falsified fairly easily, but they usually do not hold up to the scrutiny of scientific community (see Andrew Wakefield). But since nutrient supplements are not regulated by FDA in the US and by the respective agencies in other countries, they provide a source of big revenue with zero need of investing into research clinical trials. As such, they are a goldmine for pharmaceutical companies and to suggest they would try to manipulate trials to prove they do not work is laughable.
 
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Good question. Now Foods, Source Naturals, Dr. Best, are reputable. There are a few others. And check ingredients for excipients. Less is better.

I recommend Dr. Best Chelated Magnesium in particular. Most magnesium acts as a laxative. Not this one. It's attached to an amino acid so it gets absorbed. And most everyone needs more magnesium. It's involved in over 300 biological processes in the body.

For more on supplementation read my article here....
The Importance Of Nutrients To An Aging Population And Beat Back Corona Or Any Virus
Thats what I take along with ZMA at night
 
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To actually get back on topic, which I single handedly derailed (sorry), I want Islanders to lose, obviously. However, if Panthers were just a little bit capable of keeping up with Toronto, the idea of a lottery pick would be too tempting.
 
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Looks like we'll get the leafs pick which will probably be in the 21-24 range. I don't see them beating anyone in a best of seven.
 
Looks like we'll get the leafs pick which will probably be in the 21-24 range. I don't see them beating anyone in a best of seven.

Agreed.

With them playing as shitty as they are, it's too bad that Florida decided to trade Trochek; he could of been the difference in that race. Instead they're playing just as bad as the Leafs.
 
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Oh this will definitely affect the NHL. I can't see the rest of the season being played out in its entirety, at least not in front of full stands. The question right now is, are TV revenues going to be enough to keep the season going through June? Back here in my home country, there is a Biathlon World Cup going on right now... With ZERO spectators in the stands. Some Serie A football (soccer) games in Italy got postponed/cancelled. The final installment in Alpine skiing World Cup just got cancelled.

This will definitely go on. Right now, it is also affecting my studies. Aside from cancelling our school's ball, some clinical wards with particularly susceptible patients banned medical students from entering (in addition to banning visitors, which is something many more hospitals have already done). If it goes on like this, and it looks like it, they might cancel all clinical rotations altogether. Right now, I am wondering if they will let us do the exams and pass to the next year or if we will have to repeat the whole semester...

Btw taking care of your nutrients is not a bad call, just remember it is not omnipotent. It is much more critical to keep up your hygiene. As silly as it might sound, simple washing hands, avoiding large crowds and not touching your own face in public is the most effective measure for avoiding infectious diseases of this kind. Aside from vaccination of course, which in this case doesn't exist yet.

Anyway, I am just a med student, but I have it on really good authority, as I explained in the previous post.

On the bright side, we are really lucky that diseases like ebola or MERS (which is also a coronavirus) are not this contagious. As the current situation suggests, the world was not prepared to effectively contain such a contagious virus and prevent it from becoming a large scale pandemic. An ebola breaking out on this scale might have actually threatened the continuation of human civilisation as we know it.

Hopefully humanity learns from this and precautionary measures are put into place for when/if a more dangerous pathogen threatens to go... viral (sorry for the pun, I couldn't help it), similar to the likes of the Spanish flu (which is the best example from modern history I can think of).

In times like this I'm happy I'm attending med school overseas. Zero cases here so far(though that will inevitably change).
 
The islanders just have zero jump to their game just none.

Carolina doesn’t look much better. They just seem to not have the weapons that we have.

they’ve got Slavin playing the top of the PP. that’s just not what he does well. Loss of Hamilton is a killer for them.


We’ve got more weapons than most teams right now. When you have Mika kreider (when healthy) Panarin Buchy even idiot Strome is going to get 70 plus pts. Then have D men like Tony Fox and Trouba and an elite goalie you can do a lot of things. We’re easily playing better than the 4 teams ahead of us including the penguins
 
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In times like this I'm happy I'm attending med school overseas. Zero cases here so far(though that will inevitably change).
Finland, I assume? Czech Republic here, first confirmed case 6 days ago. 21 as of now. Possibly hundreds of others that have not been picked up on though... I mean, it is no end of the world, as some media would have you believe, but the public health risk is real. And this probably includes Finland too, unless you close your borders entirely.
 
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