leetch99
Leetch66 Joined 2007
Leafs score no goals and get a loser point...they could play a full season with all games into OT , score no goals and still have 82 points ...long impossible odds but that is something to think about .
Around the NHL: Part XXI
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leetch99
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I enjoy the fighting...but I also am aware of the other side of it . Barnaby had his head pounded so many times and would always wave the officials away . 2400 minutes in penalties...one would have to think the worst . It is sad for him and his family and sad to see so many before him that have fought the battle to soothe the demons that so many suffer from .
NYR94
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I'm thinking about similar things but not a Rangers game, I'm supposed to go see Pearl Jam at the Garden at the end of March. I'm going to wait and see how things are in NYC for the next couple weeks.
eco's bones
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If there's an argument for M4A coronavirus and future epidemics/pandemics are it. There are over 85 million uninsured and millions more of underinsured in the United States. People who can't afford health insurance can't really afford to see a doctor either or go to the hospital. A good many of them are going to try to ride out their problems and they could be cooking your burgers at McDonalds, a grocery store checkout clerk, your uber or lyft driver, your kid's substitute teacher or just the migrant worker some place far away that picks your fruits and vegetables. Those countries with health care covering everyone at least have a fighting chance to contain this--people in Canada for instance much more likely to go see the doctor because it's already paid for through taxes etc.---- those of us in the United States not so much.
eco's bones
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I saw Henri Richard died. He played a lot of years--I think he went to the mid to late 70's anyway. I remember seeing him play on TV. Alzheimer's related and I can imagine that he had his head rattled a few times. He was a little guy--very feisty and holds the record for having won more Stanley Cups (11) than any other player.
I'm not sure what's going on Barnaby--whether this is really aberrant behavior for him or not. He's had some issues before but the last I saw of him (it was a while ago) he didn't seem crazy at all. What I'm really wondering is whether he is just an asshole to be around. It could be head injuries though.
Purinton for sure is a bit f***ed up--the concussion thing has wrecked a lot of lives.
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PuckLuck3043
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That's good actually. Hopefully they won't take them lightly tomorrow. The devils have been playing well and are 6-2-2 in their last 10 and would love to hurt our playoff chances.
KirkAlbuquerque
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Cmox
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The Leafs are such a circus. So unorganized, so many turnovers. Makes the Rangers look like the Red Army.
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17futurecap
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Please wake up for the last 15 games Panthers, 5 points back with 2 games in hand.
This playoff format is really garbage. Yes, I’m venting on this again. Rangers could be battling for as high as the 6 seed if were 1-8. This top 3 in the division nonsense making these playoff races not as compelling as they could be.
In regards to coronavirus and going to NHL games:
Based on what I learned yesterday, I would not recommend it. Back in CZE, the ball of our medical school just got cancelled. We had a meeting with the faculty yesterday to explain the reasons behind the decision, including epidemiologists, public health professors and the head of the department for infectious diseases where half of the currently infected patients in our country are hospitalized atm.
There is no reason to panic as the letality rate is quite low, especially among healthy population with no serious comorbidities (diseases). While the currently given 3 percent figure is much higher than influenza for instance, some models expect that there the actual number of infected is as much as 20 times higher than the number of confirmed cases. This is due to the fact that the diseases can present with no to very mild symptoms, which would not be picked up on by public health offices around the globe as these infected people are not likely to seek medical help. This would also push the actual lethality rate down to 0.15 % and 0.01 % among young(ish) healthy adults and children. Which is actually very close to the numbers of influenza virus.
However, according to the current (still very circumstantial, I must stress out) evidence, the dose of the virus particles that infect the host also play a role in determining how sever the infection is going to be. This might explain the relatively high lethality among health care providers in Wu Han or tourists on the Diamond Princess Cruise, who were pretty healthy but were exposed to the virus for a prolonged period of time in a confined space. Which is the first clue as to why avoiding a confined space with a lot of people, e.g. a hockey game, might be a good idea.
Also, unlike with influenza, there is no vaccination or effective treatment of the minority of cases that are severe. At least not yet. Also, the fact that there are very likely 20 times as many infectious people running around who probably don't even know they are sick will very likely cause the number of confirmed cases (and by extension, the severe cases) to skyrocket in the immediate future. According to some of the experts, a large scale pandemic is unavoidable at this point. Some even go as far as suggesting that the majority of world's population will be exposed to the virus at some point.
The goal at the moment seems to be to slow down the epidemic as much as possible, rather than stop it, which night not be possible at this point, unless very draconic measures are implemented similarly to China, which seems impossible in most democratic countries. The point of slowing it down is to relieve the health care system which will be able to absorb a large number of people over a prolonged period of time, as opposed to overloading and collapsing in a case of quick outburst of infections. The overload can already be seen in hospitals in Northern Italy right now, where operating theatres had to be closed down to accomodate the sudden high rise of patients requiring ventilation, because the capacity in ICU units was no longer sufficient.
The other reason for slowing it down is to wait for the summer. The current coronavirus, much like other coronaviruses or influenza, seems to be seasonal. There seems to be no spreading of the infection in subtropical and tropical regions at the moment. This means that the current epidemic will subside once the temperatures rise. It might die down entirely or it might come back in Fall, no one really knows right now. However this will buy more time to develop a vaccine and an effective therapy.
Obviously, large gatherings of people are the last thing you want if your goal is to slow down the epidemic. Some of our experts yesterday even advocated for all large cultural events to be cancelled until late spring / early summer.
The bottom line is: Do not panic, this is more of an influenza on steroids, rather than an ebola outbreak. If you are relatively healthy, there is no reason to barricade yourself at home and not to go out. However, elderly people and those with chronic diseases (especially of the lungs and heart) or with compromised immune system (immune suppresion after transplantation, after chemotherapy etc.) would be well advised to stay at home. And if you are indeed healthy, please be responsible and don't go to events with lots of people in a confined space, try washing your hands regularly, limit touching your face with unwashed hands and stay home if you are sick. You might not even realize you were infected but you might infect someone else, who is already seriously ill. And people like these are the reason why exceptional epidemiological measures are absolutely warranted right now.
Based on what I learned yesterday, I would not recommend it. Back in CZE, the ball of our medical school just got cancelled. We had a meeting with the faculty yesterday to explain the reasons behind the decision, including epidemiologists, public health professors and the head of the department for infectious diseases where half of the currently infected patients in our country are hospitalized atm.
There is no reason to panic as the letality rate is quite low, especially among healthy population with no serious comorbidities (diseases). While the currently given 3 percent figure is much higher than influenza for instance, some models expect that there the actual number of infected is as much as 20 times higher than the number of confirmed cases. This is due to the fact that the diseases can present with no to very mild symptoms, which would not be picked up on by public health offices around the globe as these infected people are not likely to seek medical help. This would also push the actual lethality rate down to 0.15 % and 0.01 % among young(ish) healthy adults and children. Which is actually very close to the numbers of influenza virus.
However, according to the current (still very circumstantial, I must stress out) evidence, the dose of the virus particles that infect the host also play a role in determining how sever the infection is going to be. This might explain the relatively high lethality among health care providers in Wu Han or tourists on the Diamond Princess Cruise, who were pretty healthy but were exposed to the virus for a prolonged period of time in a confined space. Which is the first clue as to why avoiding a confined space with a lot of people, e.g. a hockey game, might be a good idea.
Also, unlike with influenza, there is no vaccination or effective treatment of the minority of cases that are severe. At least not yet. Also, the fact that there are very likely 20 times as many infectious people running around who probably don't even know they are sick will very likely cause the number of confirmed cases (and by extension, the severe cases) to skyrocket in the immediate future. According to some of the experts, a large scale pandemic is unavoidable at this point. Some even go as far as suggesting that the majority of world's population will be exposed to the virus at some point.
The goal at the moment seems to be to slow down the epidemic as much as possible, rather than stop it, which night not be possible at this point, unless very draconic measures are implemented similarly to China, which seems impossible in most democratic countries. The point of slowing it down is to relieve the health care system which will be able to absorb a large number of people over a prolonged period of time, as opposed to overloading and collapsing in a case of quick outburst of infections. The overload can already be seen in hospitals in Northern Italy right now, where operating theatres had to be closed down to accomodate the sudden high rise of patients requiring ventilation, because the capacity in ICU units was no longer sufficient.
The other reason for slowing it down is to wait for the summer. The current coronavirus, much like other coronaviruses or influenza, seems to be seasonal. There seems to be no spreading of the infection in subtropical and tropical regions at the moment. This means that the current epidemic will subside once the temperatures rise. It might die down entirely or it might come back in Fall, no one really knows right now. However this will buy more time to develop a vaccine and an effective therapy.
Obviously, large gatherings of people are the last thing you want if your goal is to slow down the epidemic. Some of our experts yesterday even advocated for all large cultural events to be cancelled until late spring / early summer.
The bottom line is: Do not panic, this is more of an influenza on steroids, rather than an ebola outbreak. If you are relatively healthy, there is no reason to barricade yourself at home and not to go out. However, elderly people and those with chronic diseases (especially of the lungs and heart) or with compromised immune system (immune suppresion after transplantation, after chemotherapy etc.) would be well advised to stay at home. And if you are indeed healthy, please be responsible and don't go to events with lots of people in a confined space, try washing your hands regularly, limit touching your face with unwashed hands and stay home if you are sick. You might not even realize you were infected but you might infect someone else, who is already seriously ill. And people like these are the reason why exceptional epidemiological measures are absolutely warranted right now.
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Svenhart2008
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Tough. Main thing is no three point game. Carolina has two games in hand on us.
If CAR wins they jump us but we're still only 2 points out of a playoff spot. Plus NYI will have same games played as us.
I vote CAR.
eco's bones
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If it comes back in the fall there is an election in the United States which means at least in some places long or very long lines of people standing around waiting to vote. I'd have to be truly excited about who it was I was voting for even to risk doing that and the two current frontrunners ain't worth the risk IMO.
But anyway it seems like your meeting is looking at this issue in a clear eyed way. If this flu does make the leap through or over the summer months pretty much one should expect that at some time or another each and every one of us is going to be at serious risk of getting this flu--that it's extremely contagious and that it's very likely that lots of people are going to die.
As far as the Rangers or any other NHL team goes--hockey teams are notorious for passing the flu around. Next season might turn into an absolute disaster--locker rooms are enclosed spaces and benches are notorious for being filthy and bodily fluids such as snot, saliva and blood are commonly to be found all over the player's bench. So it's not just the fans in the stands who would be at risk. Would it surprise me if the NHL, NBA or NFL cancelled or suspended their seasons? No, not really. MLB more likely to stick around but they might need to shorten their season.
This is something that has real potential to put us in uncharted territory with events being cancelled or suspended. Air travel, travel in general is going to take a major hit I think as well. I would not travel overseas under any circumstances at the moment. I would not want to get on a crowded plane or stuck or quarantined for an uncertain period of time somewhere far away and no offense to other peoples around the globe but if I had to die I'd prefer doing it in my own country. Just on that hit to airlines and the entire travel industry that depends on it I imagine the world economy is going to take a significant downturn so expect serious economic ramifications to come out of this.
I guess Carolina. Rangers just need to take care of business today and they’ll gain ground on someone.
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Definitely Isles since we want the Skjei pick to be as high as possible.
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It's a tough call, but I think I'd rather that Carolina lose. They are 1 point behind with 2 games in hand. If we win and they lose, that gives us a 3 point cushion. They would need to win both games in hand to pass us. We'd still be behind the islanders by 2 points, and they'd still have a game in hand, but we don't need to pass them to get in, as we can still pass Columbus. Columbus is playing in Edmonton tonight. If they lose and we win, we'll be 1 point back with a game in hand.
Plus, there's the added bonus of us having Carolina's 1st. It's a super long shot, but if both Carolina and Toronto miss and they both win the lottery, we get a top 3 pick.
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IMO There are still too many games left in the regular season to dissect the outcome scenarios. In short, we have two teams playing each other that are in a close and direct competition with the Rangers for one of two WC spots. So it’s a good news and the only outcome I’d be upset with is a 3-point game.
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