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Around the NHL - Part XLIII

I read somewhere this week that Noah Dobson name was mentioned in trades . I wonder if they are talking contract these days over there ? Many thought he was a shoo in for 9-10 million....well I wondered on that . He has dropped half a point a game this season . What are your thoughts on Dobson and his next deal ? It might get messy . I keep telling his friends here he should get out of there as fast as he can.
 
I read somewhere this week that Noah Dobson name was mentioned in trades . I wonder if they are talking contract these days over there ? Many thought he was a shoo in for 9-10 million....well I wondered on that . He has dropped half a point a game this season . What are your thoughts on Dobson and his next deal ? It might get messy . I keep telling his friends here he should get out of there as fast as he can.
He had a tough Nov point wise but seems to have bounced back since. May end up with 50 points still this season.
 
I know Montreal had run hot recently but I wasn't really buying them as a threat to anything seeing as they just lost to Chicago.

They more or less just stomped the Caps.
 
Dobson is Carlson type. He can move the puck very well and is a big threat from the blue line, and his defense is fair enough - and young enough to continue improving. But unlike guys like Karlsson who were SO offensively dominant that simply having them on the ice 25 minutes a night meant the puck was mostly not in your end for those 25 minutes, which means you tilt the ice significantly enough to be a Norris nominee, even if your defense isn’t the bread and butter of your game. Guys like Carlson, while picking up a nomination here or there, have never been true Norris contenders because despite putting up numbers, they don’t tilt the ice and control play for nearly half a game the way guys like Karlsson do. It’s rare for a “purely” offensive D man to be able to impact the game so significantly that without being truly “good” at defense, they still mitigate goals against purely by the fact that when they’re on the ice the puck is rarely in their zone. Carlson is in that other group; good D who is a big time offensive threat and also decent defensively, but not a genuine game changer on either side of the ice. That’s Dobson. He’s a very good offensive D. He’s not remotely in bonafide 1D territory.
 
Dobson is Carlson type. He can move the puck very well and is a big threat from the blue line, and his defense is fair enough - and young enough to continue improving. But unlike guys like Karlsson who were SO offensively dominant that simply having them on the ice 25 minutes a night meant the puck was mostly not in your end for those 25 minutes, which means you tilt the ice significantly enough to be a Norris nominee, even if your defense isn’t the bread and butter of your game. Guys like Carlson, while picking up a nomination here or there, have never been true Norris contenders because despite putting up numbers, they don’t tilt the ice and control play for nearly half a game the way guys like Karlsson do. It’s rare for a “purely” offensive D man to be able to impact the game so significantly that without being truly “good” at defense, they still mitigate goals against purely by the fact that when they’re on the ice the puck is rarely in their zone. Carlson is in that other group; good D who is a big time offensive threat and also decent defensively, but not a genuine game changer on either side of the ice. That’s Dobson. He’s a very good offensive D. He’s not remotely in bonafide 1D territory.
the thing about karlsson is, he's never won
the thing about Carlson is, he has
 
the thing about karlsson is, he's never won
the thing about Carlson is, he has.

The thing about both is… (drum roll)… it’s a team sport. There isn’t a universe in existence where John Carlson’s peak, nor career, surpasses Erik Karlsson’s. Period. Karlsson could play 25 minutes per night and force a bad Sens team to win. Carlson could be the #2 shooting option after Ovie on the PP and win a Cup on a deep team lead by the guy who is about to break the all time goal scoring record. It’s pretty miraculous how that works, eh?

Wait, wait… Binnington, Crawford, Murray, Huet were all better than Lundqvist. Because, and I quote (you): “the thing about Lundqvist is, he’s never won. The thing about Binnington is, he has.”

Good, now that I typed something moronic, we’re on more even footing.
 

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