noncents
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Around the NHL - Part XLIII
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Black Tank
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I lived in NJ so I love dunking on that team.
Last night Bratt got destroyed, the little devils do nothing because they can't play that goon they traded for because he can't skate, the air goes out of the building, and the gutless bunch of figure skaters just quit.
And the debbies fans still blaming sad sack Ruff for it all. What a weird little team.
KirkAlbuquerque
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Isles shutout in 3 of their 6 games so far. Imagine paying money to watch that game last night. Might as well stay home and read a book instead.
NYR94
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So many first round draft pick busts when picking forwards for NYI--Dal Colle, Ho-Sang, Bellows, Wahlstrom, Holmstrom, along with no first round pick 4 years in a row.
Quick, trade kaapo Kakko and zib for him and some
Oh great.. now they'll get a generational player.
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Obviously it's not going to happen because it would mess up the locker room, but it would be nice to trade Lindgren to Utah for the picks we shipped away to rid ourselves of Nemeth (ouch). Then we could roll with Mancini, Jones, and GigaChad as our 5-7 D and see what D is available at the trade deadline. It would also free up a lot of cap space for the trade deadline.
Cmox
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You're telling me. He got the hat last night for wearing a racing helmet.
Watching last night's game and I couldn't help think that Habs might want a guy like Lindgren. They need D who can eat minutes, they need a 'veteran' presence in the locker-room, and Lindgren doesn't really hurt their draft position if they go the tank option
Dr John Carlson
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Not sure where to put this so I'll try here.
Over on the History subforum on the mains, we like to indulge in a little bit of fun now and then in the form of meaningless rankings, comparisons, and debates of historical players. This year we're ranking the top 60 goaltenders of all time, and in we're onto the third round of discussion, where your guy Henrik Lundqvist is now up for vote, with a spot in the top 15, and potentially as high as the 10th spot, up for grabs.
I know there's gotta be a lot of Hank truthers on here (as a Capitals fan, I'm one of his supporters in the project), or at the very least a lot of posters who watched most or all of his career and can offer insight, anecdotes, stories about him, all of which go towards making our discussion more fruitful and educational. If you want to join in, or just want to read up about how we think Lundqvist compares against greats of the past, take a peek at the thread! Thanks.
Over on the History subforum on the mains, we like to indulge in a little bit of fun now and then in the form of meaningless rankings, comparisons, and debates of historical players. This year we're ranking the top 60 goaltenders of all time, and in we're onto the third round of discussion, where your guy Henrik Lundqvist is now up for vote, with a spot in the top 15, and potentially as high as the 10th spot, up for grabs.
I know there's gotta be a lot of Hank truthers on here (as a Capitals fan, I'm one of his supporters in the project), or at the very least a lot of posters who watched most or all of his career and can offer insight, anecdotes, stories about him, all of which go towards making our discussion more fruitful and educational. If you want to join in, or just want to read up about how we think Lundqvist compares against greats of the past, take a peek at the thread! Thanks.
The Islanders really should've rebuilt when Tavares left. They brought in Lamoriello in 2018, he helped bring them out of perpetual mediocrity but he pretty much doubled down on bolstering a middling roster. Back then even at that time I feel they missed their opportunity to do a proper rebuild/retool, and old man Lamoriello was never going to do that. That's what probably should've been done but I'm sure there was pressure to get back into the post-season and improve the optics of the organization.
When he took over in 2018 they were coming off 2 playoff misses in a row after seemingly a never ending run of little to no playoff success. Tavares left that summer as a free agent, once that happened they should've tore it down. Brock Nelson and Anders Lee needed new deals the following summer. They had too much money tied up in the bottom 6 and Andrew Ladd's albatross of a deal eating +5 million a year to be a bottom 6 player was the icing on the cake. Johnny Boychuk was a shell of himself making 6 mil per.
But Lou just kept doubling down on that roster bandaid after bandaid. After Lee signed that albatross of a contract the following summer he's only had one 50 point season since. He's never lived up to his 7 million a year price tag. Eberle and Bailey were good trade chips at the time. Varlamov could've been a chip when Sorokin arrived. Leddy was the only vet piece they winded up selling. They gave up Devon Toews to Colorado and then 2 years later ended up trading the 13th overall pick for Romanov to replace what they missed out on. It's not like they were completely devoid of young talent either. It could've been a quick turn around. Guys like Barzal, Toews, and Pulock were just entering the league. They just drafted future #1D Noah Dobson. Sorokin was ripping the KHL. They had future core pieces in place. They did really well building through the draft then they changed course.
Barry Trotz dragged those teams into the playoffs. And they had some good success too. But it was always a team you'd look at and say, yeah they're decent enough to grab a playoff spot but they're missing the high end talent to be a real contender. They had some good runs. But that's what it looks like Lou has built there, a team that's perpetually solid enough to compete for a playoff spot but lacks the star power to win a championship. They wanted Panarin, they tried to get Johnny Hockey. That's the only way they're going to land those players since they've traded all their picks away. Not a great formula to pray a star free agent comes to save you
But I suppose Lou served his purpose though, they made the playoffs 5 of the last 6 seasons. Had some deep runs. They had all that arena drama, now they're settled into a more permanent arena. The surrounding area is being built up around it as a destination. So in those aspects it was a success for the organization. But in terms of building a future cup contender, not so much.
When he took over in 2018 they were coming off 2 playoff misses in a row after seemingly a never ending run of little to no playoff success. Tavares left that summer as a free agent, once that happened they should've tore it down. Brock Nelson and Anders Lee needed new deals the following summer. They had too much money tied up in the bottom 6 and Andrew Ladd's albatross of a deal eating +5 million a year to be a bottom 6 player was the icing on the cake. Johnny Boychuk was a shell of himself making 6 mil per.
But Lou just kept doubling down on that roster bandaid after bandaid. After Lee signed that albatross of a contract the following summer he's only had one 50 point season since. He's never lived up to his 7 million a year price tag. Eberle and Bailey were good trade chips at the time. Varlamov could've been a chip when Sorokin arrived. Leddy was the only vet piece they winded up selling. They gave up Devon Toews to Colorado and then 2 years later ended up trading the 13th overall pick for Romanov to replace what they missed out on. It's not like they were completely devoid of young talent either. It could've been a quick turn around. Guys like Barzal, Toews, and Pulock were just entering the league. They just drafted future #1D Noah Dobson. Sorokin was ripping the KHL. They had future core pieces in place. They did really well building through the draft then they changed course.
Barry Trotz dragged those teams into the playoffs. And they had some good success too. But it was always a team you'd look at and say, yeah they're decent enough to grab a playoff spot but they're missing the high end talent to be a real contender. They had some good runs. But that's what it looks like Lou has built there, a team that's perpetually solid enough to compete for a playoff spot but lacks the star power to win a championship. They wanted Panarin, they tried to get Johnny Hockey. That's the only way they're going to land those players since they've traded all their picks away. Not a great formula to pray a star free agent comes to save you
But I suppose Lou served his purpose though, they made the playoffs 5 of the last 6 seasons. Had some deep runs. They had all that arena drama, now they're settled into a more permanent arena. The surrounding area is being built up around it as a destination. So in those aspects it was a success for the organization. But in terms of building a future cup contender, not so much.
KirkAlbuquerque
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This might be the longest post ever written by a Rangers fan about the Islanders.
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Harbour Dog
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xGF is cumulated, and they've played two more games than us while taking nearly as many shots/GP, so I can see it how that would be the case.
That said, we've been pummeling teams, and I would have guessed that we were leading them in xGF, despite the two fewer games played.
McRanger92
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Gorton also traded for Lindgren in one of his rare winning trades.
We never shouldve given up on him
I absolutely love that he stuck it out in the AHL for so long and is back in the NHL.
Dude deserves every penny. Didn’t work out for us, but it’s not his fault that Gordie Clark was the worst director of scouting in the NHL.
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noncents
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you should probably get that checked out.
Cmox
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I really dislike the USA logo design. Looks like it should be on a car.
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NYR94
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He gave a good interview after the Caps game last night about his career and how nice Ovechkin has always been to him.
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