Kevyn Adams GM thread

[Fjordy]

That said, firing Adams means they have to pay him and the new guy too. And that's more money gone.

Maybe his contract will just end after this season, he extended it in September 2022 for several years, and now it's already 2025.

 

[Fjordy]

And Adams may worry about them being bad again in 2025-26, so that is a high lottery pick that gets moved.

Seriously? We're going to be bad again? This is ridiculous. This guy is probably out of a job and his contract is probably up and he thinks we're going to be bad again.

 

[Jim Bob]

Seriously? We're going to be bad again? This is ridiculous. This guy is probably out of a job and his contract is probably up and he thinks we're going to be bad again.

I don't know why anyone would think that Pegula is going to let Adams go anytime soon. Pegula wants a GM that will communicate with him and run an economical team. It sure seems like Adams is getting high marks from Pegula on those two fronts.

 

[Fjordy]

I don't know why anyone would think that Pegula is going to let Adams go anytime soon. Pegula wants a GM that will communicate with him and run an economical team. It sure seems like Adams is getting high marks from Pegula on those two fronts.

Are you sure about that, are you willing to bet on that? Because the results are not there or because the contract is ending or both, how the hell is he going to survive this season? Marek and Friedman said before the season that Adams would be fired if they didn't make the playoffs.

 

[Jim Bob]

Are you sure about that, are you willing to bet on that? Because the results are not there or because the contract is ending or both, how the hell is he going to survive this season? Marek and Friedman said before the season that Adams would be fired if they didn't make the playoffs.

I do not believe that Adams was hired based on his ability to be a GM.

And I do not believe that his future employment as GM will be determined by wins and losses. That is because I place more value on the things that Terry Pegula has said publicly than things that media members or fans say.

Plus, has Adams acted like a GM who had a mandate to make the playoffs this season or he was fired?

 

[Fjordy]

I do not believe that Adams was hired based on his ability to be a GM.

And I do not believe that his future employment as GM will be determined by wins and losses. That is because I place more value on the things that Terry Pegula has said publicly than things that media members or fans say.

He was hired because he was convenient, but even guys like that have an expiration date when a team fails for too long. Not long ago, Terry was going to win the Cup.

 

[Jim Bob]

He was hired because he was convenient, but even guys like that have an expiration date when a team fails for too long. Not long ago, Terry was going to win the Cup.

Terry thought signing Taylor Hall meant they were a Cup contender. Reality hit quickly on that front.

And you didn't answer the big question: Has Kevyn Adams acted like a GM with a make the playoffs or your fired mandate this season?

The only move he has made since the start of the season has been re-claiming Reimer off of waivers and his team has needed help for a while. All while saying it was "Win Now" time and that they were "open for business."

Actions speak louder than words. And Kevyn Adams has acted like a GM who's job is safe.

 

[Fjordy]

Terry thought signing Taylor Hall meant they were a Cup contender. Reality hit quickly on that front.

And you didn't answer the big question: Has Kevyn Adams acted like a GM with a make the playoffs or your fired mandate this season?

The only move he has made since the start of the season has been re-claiming Reimer off of waivers and his team has needed help for a while. All while saying it was "Win Now" time and that they were "open for business."

Actions speak louder than words. And Kevyn Adams has acted like a GM who's job is safe.

He's just a passive GM and not very good on his own. He wanted to get Pesce, Ehlers or Necas and we know that, but he gave up after it didn't work out.

 

[Dreakon13]

He's just a passive GM and not very good on his own. He wanted to get Pesce, Ehlers or Necas and we know that, but he gave up after it didn't work out.

Adams basically has all promising young pieces, in the NHL and in the AHL. He doesn't want to give up on them for a question mark... he's willing to pull the trigger on sure things (but then most teams are).

I think that's understandable tbh. No one wants to give up on Power or Byram or Peterka or Quinn or Kulich... I'd say Cozens or Sammy but that ship might've sailed this season lol... and watch them go on to figure it out and succeed elsewhere, for anything less than a player who is going to be a top 6/top 4 success story here. Other teams might be solid enough to take that risk to try and put themselves over the top, but the Sabres can't seem to stop hitting new lows.

The problem is he's backed himself into a corner where he has nothing but promising young players to trade. He has to give up something big, and he's running out of sure things.

The fallback seems to always be, if the right trade doesn't work then we're happy seeing if these guys can figure it out here.

 

[Zman5778]

The problem is he's backed himself into a corner where he has nothing but promising young players to trade. He has to give up something big, and he's running out of sure things.

The fallback seems to always be, if the right trade doesn't work then we're happy seeing if these guys can figure it out here.

The BIGGER problem is that the warts on some of these players are starting to show and are losing value, some losing big value. Cozens can't remove his head from his ass. JJP still can't find the defensive zone. Quinn has been mercurial (though, maybe it's injury related?). Ostlund has basically had a wasted development season, though maybe he's turning it around in Rochester.........while Helenius is doing the opposite (starting strong, now fading).

Samuelsson gets injured every year and makes a couple of idiotic plays per game. Power can't defend the front of his net.

The ship might have sailed for getting a big-talent player unless something unexpected happens elsewhere -- and that's kind of the most damning thing. We kind of need a big-talent player elsewhere to wear out his welcome and come and "save" us. If that doesn't happen.......oooo boy.

 

[Dreakon13]

The BIGGER problem is that the warts on some of these players are starting to show and are losing value, some losing big value. Cozens can't remove his head from his ass. JJP still can't find the defensive zone. Quinn has been mercurial (though, maybe it's injury related?). Ostlund has basically had a wasted development season, though maybe he's turning it around in Rochester.........while Helenius is doing the opposite (starting strong, now fading).

Samuelsson gets injured every year and makes a couple of idiotic plays per game. Power can't defend the front of his net.

The ship might have sailed for getting a big-talent player unless something unexpected happens elsewhere -- and that's kind of the most damning thing. We kind of need a big-talent player elsewhere to wear out his welcome and come and "save" us. If that doesn't happen.......oooo boy.

I think Samuelsson is the only one that's getting to the point where we'd need to pay someone to take him off our hands. The rest I feel confident that NHL GM's see the potential in these guys being squandered on the Sabres, and one might be intrigued enough to slip and give up something really good in return lol... though as the seasons go by those ships will also sail.

We need real top end players coming back, we're way past the point of shake up moves. I don't like the idea of waiting around for these perfect opportunities... but I kinda get why we're not just sending a player like Power or Quinn out for something that might work if you squint a little. It's a rock and a hard place, though it's a situation of Adam's making for expecting the perpetually youngest team in the NHL to just figure it out.

 

[Zman5778]

I think Samuelsson is the only one that's getting to the point where we'd need to pay someone to take him off our hands.

Nah. With the cap skyrocketing, his $4M cap hit will be the going rate for 3rd pair defensemen. SOMEONE will think that they can "fix" him (personally, I think he's being scapegoated by the fanbase big time......he's not NEARLY as bad as some think/say).

 

[Dreakon13]

Nah. With the cap skyrocketing, his $4M cap hit will be the going rate for 3rd pair defensemen. SOMEONE will think that they can "fix" him (personally, I think he's being scapegoated by the fanbase big time......he's not NEARLY as bad as some think/say).

Yeah, as I wrote that, I was thinking the injuries are more worrying than the cap or his current play.

$4 mill isn't going to scare people away for a still pretty young guy, though I want to say "with his potential" and I'm starting to doubt what that means.

 

[toddkaz]

Are you sure about that, are you willing to bet on that? Because the results are not there or because the contract is ending or both, how the hell is he going to survive this season? Marek and Friedman said before the season that Adams would be fired if they didn't make the playoffs.

 

[Fjordy]

Adams basically has all promising young pieces, in the NHL and in the AHL. He doesn't want to give up on them for a question mark... he's willing to pull the trigger on sure things (but then most teams are).

I think that's understandable tbh. No one wants to give up on Power or Byram or Peterka or Quinn or Kulich... I'd say Cozens or Sammy but that ship might've sailed this season lol... and watch them go on to figure it out and succeed elsewhere, for anything less than a player who is going to be a top 6/top 4 success story here. Other teams might be solid enough to take that risk to try and put themselves over the top, but the Sabres can't seem to stop hitting new lows.

The problem is he's backed himself into a corner where he has nothing but promising young players to trade. He has to give up something big, and he's running out of sure things.

The fallback seems to always be, if the right trade doesn't work then we're happy seeing if these guys can figure it out here.

Well, as far as I know, Adams turned down that part and it was the Carolina GM who ultimately decided not to do it at the last minute. Adams even hinted at it at the press conference.

Pesce, as I understand it, simply didn't want to go to Buffalo. Ehlers was ready to come, but didn't want to talk about an extension right away.

My problem is that Kevyn just gave up, didn't find alternatives to Pesce (although there were many) and Ehlers/Necas. He just went into the season with the kids.