Around the NHL 2024-25 regular season

[Guttersniped]

BRING JOEY HOME FITZ!

 

[Guttersniped]

Bring him home, the missing piece.

missed this before posting, too busy navigating the mess that is the trains today.

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

He’s in NY for thr following reasons

1- momey
2- off ice personal reasons
3- hockey

Of course he’s happy to stay there he’s getting the bulk of what he cares about no matter how good or bad the team around him is

It's just money

 

[My3Sons]

It's just money

I think he likes what NYC offers him off the ice as well.

 

[Guadana]

It's just money

And what’s a problem? He is number one goalie of the league. And he is banking on it. There were plenty of players who wanted to play for rangers no matter what. It turned out not so great for them. Rangers wanted him more than he wanted to play for them. Rangers need him more than he needs in rangers. So everybody are happy.

 

[JrFischer54]

Seems to me like Pandora's box is fully open with regards to diving.

Part of the game now.

well the problem is the refs never call it as a stand alone penalty. 99% of the time both guys go for some really stupid reason.

this stuff is hard. It’s basically misinformation.

It’s accurate in that it’s just claiming to apply tax rates to contact values, but it’s not factoring in how signing bonuses are taxed, how away games are taxed, and any structures the athlete has set up on their end.

So, its not something anyone should use to seriously compare contracts.

But, people see the numbers and take it seriously. That’s where the misinformation comes in.

however you want to slice it there is still a massive advantage in regards to cap and taxes. i don't think it means one guy chooses a place over another but in a hard cap it makes a difference

 

[Devils731]

well the problem is the refs never call it as a stand alone penalty. 99% of the time both guys go for some really stupid reason.

I think it actually makes some sense that the penalties are normally linked.

Most NHL guys aren’t diving when they aren’t being fouled. They’re being fouled constantly from a varying degree of lightly to severely.

They’re diving to try and make the ref think the opposing players foul is severe rather than light or medium. So there is a foul on the play where the dive is happening, which ends up getting called.

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You could make diving a double minor to emphasize the need to remove it from the game, so that there is an actual penalty, but you’d probably just end up getting refs to stop calling it.

Or you could make diving subject to a 10 minute misconduct as well as the minor. Or you could suspend the player for the next game while keeping it a minor.

Either way, dives aren’t called consistently enough nor is the punishment severe enough so there isn’t a “good” solution. Harsher penalties will stop some diving but it will also make it less fair when the refs randomly decide to call a dive since there is constant diving and it’s rarely called.

 

[TheBeerNerd]

however you want to slice it there is still a massive advantage in regards to cap and taxes.

Prove it. Name five examples. Nobody wanted to go to Florida when the team sucked and had terrible ownership. This stupid talking point fundamentally misunderstands that tax issues aren't as cut and dry as the special interests on both sides of the border want it to be.

 

[JrFischer54]

Prove it. Name five examples. Nobody wanted to go to Florida when the team sucked and had terrible ownership. This stupid talking point fundamentally misunderstands that tax issues aren't as cut and dry as the special interests on both sides of the border want it to be.

if you read a little bit more you can see i clearly said i dont think it means one player chooses one place over another. you would never be able to prove it either

 

[NJDevs26]

It's just money

Except he could have gone to FA and started a bidding war or at least picked a different locale for the same money.

 

[MasterofGrond]

The russian community is relatively large in the NYC metro area, idk how important that is to him personally, but it's a meaningful concern for my wife's family and why they and all their friends never really left the northeast.

 

[None Shall Pass]

It's also possible to like NYC AND want to make a lot of money. There's a lot of people here with that same mindset.

 

[TheBeerNerd]

At the end of the day, players want to win. Full stop.

 

[My3Sons]

At the end of the day, players want to win. Full stop.

Sure, but they also want to get paid and have a life away from the rink and enjoy their surroundings and do whatever else it is with their lives. How they prioritize those issues varies. I'm skeptical anyone plays for the Rangers to win. They haven't won since 1994 and way too many guys on that team have off ice priorities that push winning far down on the list.

 

[NJDevs26]

LOL

 

[tailfins]

however you want to slice it there is still a massive advantage in regards to cap and taxes. i don't think it means one guy chooses a place over another but in a hard cap it makes a difference

Ok - sure. Why not?

But, then so are:
- Location / weather
- Off-ice earning potential / market size
- History / O6 / "hockey market"
- Language

Smart teams will find ways to press their advantages.

 

[tailfins]

Sure, but they also want to get paid and have a life away from the rink and enjoy their surroundings and do whatever else it is with their lives. How they prioritize those issues varies. I'm skeptical anyone plays for the Rangers to win. They haven't won since 1994 and way too many guys on that team have off ice priorities that push winning far down on the list.

As Devils fans, we'd like to think that the Rangers aren't a winning org.

But, two ECFs in the past three years and having the top goalie in the league puts an organization pretty high up on the "winning" spectrum.

It's true that with the Rangers you get winning plus NYC. It's not Edmonton where you're 100% hockey. But, it's not like you have to give up on winning to play in NY.

 

[jkrdevil]

LOL

Of course that is what that story was. This is what the Rangers and Leafs do.

 

[TheBeerNerd]

Of course that is what that story was. This is what the Rangers and Leafs do.

You're giving Brooksie too much credit. That article was just him trying to manifest a player he wants, to the team he likes. He's a stupid man and should be dismissed as such.

 

[jkrdevil]

You're giving Brooksie too much credit. That article was just him trying to manifest a player he wants, to the team he likes. He's a stupid man and should be dismissed as such.

I’m not giving Brooksie any credit. And I’m not saying what he wrote was false. I’m saying the Rangers front office intentionally leaked it to Brooks that the are interested in Brady Tkachuk in order to stir shit up in Ottawa in the hopes that Brady shakes loose down the line without directly tampering with the player. The intent from Brooks’s sources for the story was nakedly obvious.

 

[TheBeerNerd]

I’m not giving Brooksie any credit. And I’m not saying what he wrote was false. I’m the Rangers front office intentionally leaked it to Brooks that the are interested in Brady Tkachuk in order to stir shit up in Ottawa in the hopes that Brady shakes loose down the line without directly tampering with the player. The intent from Brooks’s sources for the story was nakedly obvious.

That would track... carry on.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

@Bleedred

 

[Saugus]

Some of these goalie moves are baffling. Same substandard goalies keep getting moved around ad infinitum.

It's like you have several pieces of rotten fruit floating in a punch bowl, and instead of fishing them out, you simply give the ladle a swirl so the they float to a different part of the bowl.

 

[TheBeerNerd]

@Bleedred

I'm not a sports betting guy, but now that Colorado has two former Devils in net, they're probably gonna beat us in Denver when we play them next. Smart money goes for teams that ice our former goalies against us.

Also, Colorado sure has a lot of Wood, huh? Miles Wood, Scott Wedgewood, now Mackenzie Blackwood.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

wonder where Georgiev gets banished to