Around the League | No lead is safe in Round 2!

[WTG]

You guys think Calgary moves up to get Iginla?

 

[credulous]

I'm not as bullish as you are and think the Karlsson return was pretty poor for how many contracts that took back but he's been put in a really bad spot and is navigating it better than most are giving credit.

i don't really think the money he took back matters. hoffman's contract is already gone and granlund and ruuta will be gone next summer. they did retain on karlsson (and burns and hertl) but they have so many ELCs already in the lineup and lined up to join that it won't really matter

if you consider the money meier got and the age of hertl, burns and karlsson all san jose really needed was to get rid of the contracts. getting some decent picks and a grip of decent prospects back is just gravy

 

[Vector]

Sharks get Celebrini.

 

[GranvilleIsland]

Yeah f*** you Chicago disgrace of an organization.

 

[credulous]

sharks get to add celebrini and possibly his bestie eiserman in a couple months. instantly have the best prospect pool in the league imo

 

[WTG]

Happy with this result.

Sharks always tried to be competitive but they just ran out of steam.

 

[drax0s]

Yay Not the Hawks!

 

[Grip it N RYP it]

Glad Celebrini will go to San Jose. They've never had a 1st.

Also, screw the Blackhawks. Happy they didn't win it.

 

[Vector]

sharks get to add celebrini and possibly his bestie eiserman in a couple months. instantly have the best prospect pool in the league imo

I don't think there's any way Eiserman falls that far in the draft.

 

[credulous]

I don't think there's any way Eiserman falls that far in the draft.

14 overall? i would be surprised if he isn't available there. he had a really poor year and there's tons of people who think he doesn't have the work ethic to succeed in the ncaa let alone the nhl

 

[Vector]

14 overall? i would be surprised if he isn't available there. he had a really poor year and there's tons of people who think he doesn't have the work ethic to succeed in the ncaa let alone the nhl

Oh shit, sorry. Thought it was a way later pick and confused myself. Yeah 14th is definitely possible.

I'm curious if Celebrini makes the jump to the NHL right away, if Will Smith also does so.

 

[WTG]

Sharks have made the playoffs 14 times in the last 20 seasons. They even tried to give their core more chances to win by bringing in guys like Karlsson.

They've only missed the playoffs ten times since entering the league in 1991-92.

This isn't a team that is always bottoming out; that's an organization that, for 99% of their time in the NHL, tried to put a winning team out on the ice. They just lost steam with the core and couldn't find replacements.

If any team deserves a #1 overall pick, I think it's that organization. I really hated it when they showed the Chicago GM get all gitty about the chance to win the 1st overall. That left me with a really bad taste in my mouth.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Good for SJ. Probably going to suck that he's in our division at some point, but at least the f***ing Blackhawks didn't get it again.

 

[StreetHawk]

Sharks get Celebrini.

Posted on main board, but when we had top 3 and any team outside the PO can win, we had more movement.

Instituted top 2 only in like 2021 IIRC.
2021 Buf at 1OA and SEA slotted at 3OA got it
2022 Mon at 1OA got it and NJ at 5OA
2023 Chi at 3OA and Ana at 1OA
2024 SJ at 1OA and CHI at 2OA got it.

7/8 have been bottom 3, with 5OA winning 1.

2020 had NYR in that post top 8 group. LA at 4, then SJ at 3
2019 had NJ at 3, NYR at 6, and CHI at 12
2018 had Buf at 1, Car at 11, and Mon at 4
2017 had NJ at 4, PHI at 12, and Dal at 7
2016 had Tor at 1, Win at 6, CBS at 4.

So, even removing 3OA pick from prior drafts, You have 3/10 in bottom 3, and 2 more in the bottom 5, with 5 outside the bottom 5 getting a lottery win at 6, 12, 11, and 6.

Small sample size so far, but seems a bit interesting nonetheless.

 

[F A N]

Oh shit, sorry. Thought it was a way later pick and confused myself. Yeah 14th is definitely possible.

I'm curious if Celebrini makes the jump to the NHL right away, if Will Smith also does so.

Owen Power is really the only #1 pick in recent memory who didn't make the jump to the NHL immediately (before that it was Erik Johnson). Celebrini dominated the NCAAs this year so there's really no reason why he wouldn't make the jump.

 

[StreetHawk]

Owen Power is really the only #1 pick in recent memory who didn't make the jump to the NHL immediately (before that it was Erik Johnson). Celebrini dominated the NCAAs this year so there's really no reason why he wouldn't make the jump.

Unless SJ is complete chaos and Macklin has the attitude that Zegras has about defense and compete. He's going to make the jump. But, man, the lottery did get rejigged, but wow, such a difference in the lottery wins vs the prior 5 lotteries. 7/8 in new format won by bottom 3 teams, with the other by 5OA. Prior to that, 3/10 for the top 2 were bottom 3.

 

[MS]

Owen Power is really the only #1 pick in recent memory who didn't make the jump to the NHL immediately (before that it was Erik Johnson). Celebrini dominated the NCAAs this year so there's really no reason why he wouldn't make the jump.

He also has a really refined 3-zone game for his age so he's probably going to be that much more able to make the jump than a lot of guys, too.

 

[Vector]

Owen Power is really the only #1 pick in recent memory who didn't make the jump to the NHL immediately (before that it was Erik Johnson). Celebrini dominated the NCAAs this year so there's really no reason why he wouldn't make the jump.

Main reason would be to keep him from the Sharks if they don't have any infrastructure to support him. I fully expect him to sign this summer but I don't think there's a non-zero chance that he and/or the team want him to stay away for a season.

You'd figure they'd do what the Ducks and Blackhawks did by bringing in some veterans (Hall, Foligno, & Perry(LOL) and Killorn) so he's not tasked with being the entire offense.

 

[StreetHawk]

Main reason would be to keep him from the Sharks if they don't have any infrastructure to support him. I fully expect him to sign this summer but I don't think there's a non-zero chance that he and/or the team want him to stay away for a season.

You'd figure they'd do what the Ducks and Blackhawks did by bringing in some veterans (Hall, Foligno, & Perry(LOL) and Killorn) so he's not tasked with being the entire offense.

Vlasic, Sturm, Couture, Granlund are their vets. Have $38 mill in cap space. No retention spots for next season. All used up on Burns, Hertl, EK. Need to add short term help. But, going to be a rough ELC years for Macklin.

 

[credulous]

bu has a really good recruiting class that includes eiserman who is reportedly celebrini's best friend. given how strong that team is shaping up to be and the fact his brother is also on bu it wouldn't be shocking if celebrini opts to play his sophomore year

i'd still bet on him jumping to the nhl tho

 

[calnuck]

What a snipe by Laf.
Also lol Svech what are you doing buddy. Shesterkin deserves a medal for how hard he sold that though lmao

 

[mriswith]

Sharks definitely need to acquire Mikheyev this summer to help shelter the youth movement.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Hope whomever the Blackhawks pick busts.

 

[Petey O]

Awesome result. Annoyed Chicago got 2nd overall. Hoping it would be Montreal, but I'm happy for the Sharks. Always a team that tries to win, and they get rewarded when they truly suck.

 

[StreetHawk]

Sharks definitely need to acquire Mikheyev this summer to help shelter the youth movement.

2 ways to approach filling the roster if you are SJ. Can make trades to pick up vets with 1-2 years left on their contracts for minimal return. Mid round pick or a swap of draft picks and even include an AHL contract. Why? Keeps the term short vs trying to convince free agents to sign with a bad team for the next 3-4 years. They'd want money and term to play there.

Question is whether they end up on No Trade lists now when before, they were a top 5 destination of players who had only a short list of teams they could be moved to.