Around the League Thread | November Rain

[Vector]

Bedard is a winger in the Kane/Gaudreau/Panarin mold. He isn't a C and is just too small/weak/soft/perimeter/bad at faceoffs to play that position.

But he's been hyped as a FRANCHICE CENTER and the NEXT MCDAVID/CROSBY so they're going to just keep hammering a square peg into a round hole because to do otherwise would be admitting failure.

To be fair, he played wing last game.

 

[StreetHawk]

Bedard is a winger in the Kane/Gaudreau/Panarin mold. He isn't a C and is just too small/weak/soft/perimeter/bad at faceoffs to play that position.

But he's been hyped as a FRANCHICE CENTER and the NEXT MCDAVID/CROSBY so they're going to just keep hammering a square peg into a round hole because to do otherwise would be admitting failure.

Bedard is really the first of the prospects upfront. With vlasic as the first on the backend. Going to have to endure most of the losing until the other pieces develop.
TT, Hall, Bertuzzi are not what they once were.

Not unlike guys like Larkin in Det. Bo here. Zegras in Ana. Takes its toll mentally over time.

 

[Vector]

 

[Szechwan]

Bedard is really the first of the prospects upfront. With vlasic as the first on the backend. Going to have to endure most of the losing until the other pieces develop.
TT, Hall, Bertuzzi are not what they once were.

Not unlike guys like Larkin in Det. Bo here. Zegras in Ana. Takes its toll mentally over time.

Chicago is a desirable city, so they shouldn't have too much trouble attracting support for Bedard and Co as they age. Unfortunately their targets to date have been a pretty big flop.

 

[StreetHawk]

Chicago is a desirable city, so they shouldn't have too much trouble attracting support for Bedard and Co as they age. Unfortunately their targets to date have been a pretty big flop.

Ufa is a hard sell. They went hard after Guentzal but he opted for TB? Can you blame him? Weather , taxes, good team.
Guys are not going to sign to lose for the next 2-3 seasons when they have options.

Top line guys are rare like a Panarin, Tavares, to hit ufa. And those guys had their destination in mind.

Bedard is going to have to deal with missing the PO for his first 4 pro years. Only way they get to the PO in 27 is for something outside their organization to land on their doorsteps or someone hits right away in a big way.

 

[Jerry the great]

Bedard is really the first of the prospects upfront. With vlasic as the first on the backend. Going to have to endure most of the losing until the other pieces develop.
TT, Hall, Bertuzzi are not what they once were.

Not unlike guys like Larkin in Det. Bo here. Zegras in Ana. Takes its toll mentally over time.

Last rebuild, when Chicago got Kane 1st OA, he was the final piece of the puzzle.

They'd already pulled a ton of pieces out of the draft or via trade that would form the core of their dynasty: Toews, Sharpe, Seabrook, Keith, Byfuglian, Hjalmarsson, Bolland, Crawford....

Bedard isn't going to be so lucky.....drafting now appears mediocre at best.

 

[Szechwan]

Ufa is a hard sell. They went hard after Guentzal but he opted for TB? Can you blame him? Weather , taxes, good team.
Guys are not going to sign to lose for the next 2-3 seasons when they have options.

Very rare to have a Panarin, Tavares, hit ufa. And those guys had their destination in mind.

True enough, they'll likely be limited to the B tier guys like a Toffoli until their homegrown talent begins to show something.

Any one know how Levshunov had looked? He's in Rockford this year isn't he?

 

[valkynax]

Ouch, hope he recovers well.

 

[StreetHawk]

Last rebuild, when Chicago got Kane 1st OA, he was the final piece of the puzzle.

They'd already pulled a ton of pieces out of the draft or via trade that would form the core of their dynasty: Toews, Sharpe, Seabrook, Keith, Byfuglian, Hjalmarsson, Bolland, Crawford....

Bedard isn't going to be so lucky.....drafting now appears mediocre at best.

Bedard, Nazar, Moore were 3 first round C all sub 6 feet. It’s going to just take some time. Unlike Ana I think they get more aggressive sooner than later.

Missed PO for 4 straight seasons now. Were still trying to win with Bowman and that Jones move in 2021.

 

[ManVanFan]

Penguins fan's giving up 20 games into the year.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

I like the Flames this year. Nucks/Flames series in April?

 

[theguardianII]

Last rebuild, when Chicago got Kane 1st OA, he was the final piece of the puzzle.

They'd already pulled a ton of pieces out of the draft or via trade that would form the core of their dynasty: Toews, Sharpe, Seabrook, Keith, Byfuglian, Hjalmarsson, Bolland, Crawford....

Bedard isn't going to be so lucky.....drafting now appears mediocre at best.

The big Chicago rebuild they aimed for the bottom, planned for it. The GM at the time stated "You HAVE to be bad before you can be good" That was Tallon. He also did that in Florida and then they made some massive trades and signed some hellish good FA's. In Florida apart from taxes they are pretty much outside of the media and public eye on a personal level.

Star level players are mostly achieved through the draft, Pittsburgh's core for the last 12+years and they could have still had Fleury, was drafted in a 4 year period of bottom feeding, Letang, Fleury, Crosby and Malkin, Staal, they went through 5 coaches during that time. They went from losing in the conference finals, 3 years on the bottom then back to conference finals again.

The Canucks are stuck in the mushy almost middle with not quite the right mix to become contenders for a cup. Making the playoffs should be easy, half the teams in the league do but to be "that" team that goes there or has a reasonable expectation for an extended time takes pain and a firm plan. Not just a "we will see how it goes" or re-signing the same core players over and over again because they are known in the market and then wondering if they will get a different outcome is ....just going to cost more.

The picture of the empty seats in Pittsburgh tells observers what is going to happen very soon. The same thing Pittsburgh has done successfully twice, dive to the bottom for a few years then back to the top. They might have waited too long though this time because before they had some pretty good veterans to mentor players. Tampa did this twice as well, Chicago, Colorado, TO once,

 

[LemonSauceD]

Penguins fan's giving up 20 games into the year.

NHL’s setting things up for them to draft Landon DuPont in 2027 as we speak.