Around the League Thread | Conference Final Edition | Go Tanev and Bobby Lu?

[Jyrki]

Man, I'd love to have a guy like that on our team some day.

Dare to dream eh?

But can he hit empty nets like Loui or win faceoffs like Beagle? Yeah, I don't think so!11

 

[David71]

Ya I'd rather play Dallas than Colorado. No disrespect to Dallas but I feel we just match up better.

do we really though.? they got depth. defense is good. otteniger same level as demko "when healthy" expect low scoring games if the matchup becomes reality depending on the game tomorrow. if petey somehow wakes up and start being a ppg. dallas has some young guns especially stankoven/johnson/robertson who can fire the puck

 

[Nuck Bonino]

Wow Duchene gets to put the dagger into his old team, must feel awesome for him

 

[Hansen]

This guy is good

f*** Calgary for refusing to give him to us

 

[ManVanFan]

Who from the Benning era made it as a skater that needed ahl time? Forsling wasn’t nhl ready when he arrived in Chicago.

Bo, Brock, Petey, Hughes, to even Stecher and Hutton didn’t go through the A.

I'll try not to pretend like Benning would have done things differently during his tenure but the advantage that PA got was Abbotsford. It has been huge for recruitment and development. Forsling played parts of 4 seasons in the AHL. If the development was different at that time in Utica, some of others would have been better off spending more time in the A and might have had a better shot at the NHL.

Players from the Benning era that played in the A are
Virtanen, McCann, Forsling, Gaudette, Gadjovich, Hoglander, Podkolzin. Those are players that have played 100 plus NHL games. There are some others that have NHL games.

 

[ManVanFan]

Ya I'd rather play Dallas than Colorado. No disrespect to Dallas but I feel we just match up better.

Dallas was 2-1-0 against Vancouver during the regular season, losing 2-0 on the road on Nov. 4, and winning 4-3 in overtime at home on Dec. 21 and 3-1 on the road on March 28.

Many have mentioned they are a team very similar in many ways to Van. 3 lines deep and solid top 6 D and a goalie that can stop a puck.

Edmonton and Colorado very top heavy, shallow on D and a goalie who can't stop as many pucks as they should.

 

[dez]

Not bringing back Tanev reminds me of letting W.Mitchell go to LA where he helped kick us out of playoffs.

 

[StreetHawk]

I'll try not to pretend like Benning would have done things differently during his tenure but the advantage that PA got was Abbotsford. It has been huge for recruitment and development. Forsling played parts of 4 seasons in the AHL. If the development was different at that time in Utica, some of others would have been better off spending more time in the A and might have had a better shot at the NHL.

Players from the Benning era that played in the A are
Virtanen, McCann, Forsling, Gaudette, Gadjovich, Hoglander, Podkolzin. Those are players that have played 100 plus NHL games. There are some others that have NHL games.

Organizationally, it does show how poorly connected the Canucks were with the Kings, Ducks, Sharks when those clubs moved their AHL teams from the East Coast to California about a year after the Canucks extended their agreement in Utica. You'd think those clubs would have wanted more teams in the west coast, so they'd speak with all of the PST/MST time zoned NHL teams about doing that with their AHL affiliates at the time.

I just don't believe Forsling playing under Cull would have developed into an NHL player. The track record of prospects that played for Cull is just bad, when it comes to development into NHL skater. He helped virtually no one get better.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I watched this not realizing it was AI at first - nearly spat out my coffee.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

man duchene very determined to get his revenge on colorado

Kelly Sutherland is boarding the private jet and en route to Edmonton now. See you for game 7

 

[TruKnyte]

f*** Calgary for refusing to give him to us

If we have Tanev in for Cole this series is already over.

 

[ManVanFan]

Organizationally, it does show how poorly connected the Canucks were with the Kings, Ducks, Sharks when those clubs moved their AHL teams from the East Coast to California about a year after the Canucks extended their agreement in Utica. You'd think those clubs would have wanted more teams in the west coast, so they'd speak with all of the PST/MST time zoned NHL teams about doing that with their AHL affiliates at the time.

I just don't believe Forsling playing under Cull would have developed into an NHL player. The track record of prospects that played for Cull is just bad, when it comes to development into NHL skater. He helped virtually no one get better.

I don't lay much blame on Cull. It's not as if he was given NHL talented players to develop. AHL coaches can't make water into wine. There still has to be some substance behind the player before they get there. Forsling played his draft plus 1 and 2 full time in the SHL, from that he would easily probably be the best defensive prospect that Cull would have seen. Cull also had to coach to win, not develop as Utica was not property of the Canucks. Green also produced nothing into the NHL.

 

[arttk]

Benning was scouting the Tournament that Klimovich was "tearing up" with his elite shot. No doubt in my mind that he zeroed in on him after watching it

Pick screams weisbrod

 

[valkynax]

If we have Tanev in for Cole this series is already over.

Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!

 

[MS]

From the sounds of it at the deadline we were going to flip Zadorov if we acquired Tanev so I don't think this Tanev-instead-of-Cole thing is the most accurate.

 

[valkynax]

From the sounds of it at the deadline we were going to flip Zadorov if we acquired Tanev so I don't think this Tanev-instead-of-Cole thing is the most accurate.

Thank God we didn't.

General Zad will not be pleased.

 

[racerjoe]

From the sounds of it at the deadline we were going to flip Zadorov if we acquired Tanev so I don't think this Tanev-instead-of-Cole thing is the most accurate.

Yes, we didn't have the cap to add Phil the Thrill so we couldn't just add anyone, we had to move out cap.

 

[arttk]

From the sounds of it at the deadline we were going to flip Zadorov if we acquired Tanev so I don't think this Tanev-instead-of-Cole thing is the most accurate.

I’ve always wondered if they had talks regarding trading Cole to make space since he has positive value.

 

[PG Canuck]

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Full voting results:

selke voting results

jtm gets one first place vote

garland on multiple ballots for some reason

petey with a few bottom of ballot votes

 

[mossey3535]

selke voting results

jtm gets one first place bite

garland on multiple ballots for some reason

petey with a few bottom of ballot voted

The presence of a bunch of leafs for Selke makes me doubt these peoples qualifications.

Lots of wild votes, it's almost like without Bergeron they don't know who to vote for.

The Dallas media makes fun of Jamie Benn for basically not giving a shit about defense.

Jason Dickinson? Enough said. Because Chicago gave up so few goals this year...

Jordan Staal is supposedly pretty bad now, talk about running on reputation.

 

[mossey3535]

Organizationally, it does show how poorly connected the Canucks were with the Kings, Ducks, Sharks when those clubs moved their AHL teams from the East Coast to California about a year after the Canucks extended their agreement in Utica. You'd think those clubs would have wanted more teams in the west coast, so they'd speak with all of the PST/MST time zoned NHL teams about doing that with their AHL affiliates at the time.

I just don't believe Forsling playing under Cull would have developed into an NHL player. The track record of prospects that played for Cull is just bad, when it comes to development into NHL skater. He helped virtually no one get better.

IMO he choked the Wranglers playoff chances away. Completely flamed out, not much structure in their game similar to the old Utica teams. They got a bunch of guys back too since the flames didn't make the playoffs. They went way downhill in the standings, Matt coronato didn't really develop. All the guys who were graduated to the flames basically started doing so the previous year under Love.

 

[bossram]

The presence of a bunch of leafs for Selke makes me doubt these peoples qualifications.

Lots of wild votes, it's almost like without Bergeron they don't know who to vote for.

The Dallas media makes fun of Jamie Benn for basically not giving a shit about defense.

Jason Dickinson? Enough said. Because Chicago gave up so few goals this year...

Jordan Staal is supposedly pretty bad now, talk about running on reputation.

Most of those guys are worthy of votes. This a nothingburger.

Matthews is a no doubt Selke candidate. Marner is a high-end defensive winger that deserves some votes. Staal is definitely slowing down, but defensive impacts are still strong. The on-ice impacts Dickinson had in Chicago is really a minor miracle, quite impressive.

Benn yeah, should not have any votes. But whatever, local media always throw a guy from the home team a few down-ballot votes.

And in the end, Barkov was the runaway leader. Completely fine.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Looks like Michkov is going to come over early.

Good for the Flyers and good for the league.

 

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