Around the League Thread | Holiday Season!

[SeawaterOnIce]

Oilers looking like they’re getting their stride again (just like last season).



Sigh..

A healthy Vegas and Oilers team were bound to finish #1 and # 2 in the Pacific division.

 

[Canucker]

Not dirty. Two guys looking to get to the pick first and one lost the contact.

yeah, not dirty at all...you can't go in unprepared for contact in that situation...especially knowing who you are going in with...a guy like Hartman you should expect he's going to make some contact...if you were in a chase with Henrik Sedin, you're probably safe.

 

[JT Milker]

How the heck is Mittelstadt -16? That’s double the next worst forward…

 

[Rowlet]

How the heck is Mittelstadt -16? That’s double the next worst forward…

The team he plays for had to replace both their goalies in the first 6 weeks of the season

 

[Hansen]

Im finally watching that NHL Faceoff series on Amazon and holy shit whoever produced this knows f*** all about hockey. I like getting behind the scenes personal stuff from the guys but they have no idea how to highlight a playoff series or the battle that comes with it. Outside of episode 1 between Nylander and Pastrnak there's nothing actually talking about what happened in game, its just goal goal goal *series won* and none of the gruelling slog of 7 game series. The tiny features they did on Hughes didnt even talk about anything that happened in either series, none of the drama with the goalie, none of the highs of coming back late so many times, none of the physicality, just skipped straight to Edmonton game 7 and showed a couple goals. Its a joke

 

[JT Milker]

The team he plays for had to replace both their goalies in the first 6 weeks of the season

The next worst forward on his own team lol.

 

[Vector]

 

[F A N]

Well, I don’t know if any highly regarded player does a deal right to ufa. Jason Robertson of Dallas did 4 years but he spent his first year pro in the A and had a post July 1 birthday thus did not accrue his first season as a pro towards ufa. Have to be on an nhl roster for just over half a season to qualify for it. So he would have a the required 4 years of nhl exp but doesn’t turn 27 by July 1, thus his ufa was pushed back a year. And would also only have 6 accrued nhl seasons.

That goes to my point. timw33 was saying "Would be nice to see a talented 1st overall pick only accept a 3 or 4 year deal" in the context of Bedard. A 4 year deal would expire with the player reaching UFA. A 3 year bridge is a lot better but potentially creates a Tkachuk situation where the player is still under team control but can simply go to arbitration or accept his QO. We actually had a similar situation with Boeser. Remember that he could have accepted his QO (which we didn't want) and that would have put us in a difficult situation?

Of course any player with arbitration rights can simply go to arbitration every year (multiple years)/accept his QO until he becomes a UFA but no one has done that.

 

[credulous]

meh. i've watched a ton of vegas games since moving here and kolesar has almost always been the most expendable forward on the roster

 

[bandwagonesque]

Im finally watching that NHL Faceoff series on Amazon and holy shit whoever produced this knows f*** all about hockey. I like getting behind the scenes personal stuff from the guys but they have no idea how to highlight a playoff series or the battle that comes with it. Outside of episode 1 between Nylander and Pastrnak there's nothing actually talking about what happened in game, its just goal goal goal *series won* and none of the gruelling slog of 7 game series. The tiny features they did on Hughes didnt even talk about anything that happened in either series, none of the drama with the goalie, none of the highs of coming back late so many times, none of the physicality, just skipped straight to Edmonton game 7 and showed a couple goals. Its a joke

Never watch or listen to any documentaries, podcasts, etc about something you are highly knowledgeable about unless you're prepared to question everything you thought you'd learned from these media about things you don't know much about.

 

[sting101]

How the heck is Mittelstadt -16? That’s double the next worst forward…

Playing top6 with Kovalenko and O'Connor with shoddy goaltending

 

[F A N]

Playing top6 with Kovalenko and O'Connor with shoddy goaltending

FWIW, Kovalenko is +2 in 3 games for San Jose and O'Connor is only -5 and has been a + player pretty much his entire NHL career.

Mittelstadt is also having his worst year taking faceoffs since his rookie year and he already has 38 giveaways (his career high is 42 which he reached twice in 80-82 games). Guess he's trying to do more?

 

[DFAC]

A healthy Vegas and Oilers team were bound to finish #1 and # 2 in the Pacific division.

Canucks need to win the division to set up Edmonton vs Vegas in the first round.

Minny losing Middleton out long term is a huge loss for them. Could see them slip a bit here

 

[Grip it N RYP it]

One defenseman off the board.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

One defenseman off the board.

Didn’t have St. Louis going after him. He was likely too rich for us, but still, shoot.

 

[StickShift]

Parayko, Faulk, Krug, Leddy, and now Fowler.

I don’t really get it for STL. That’s a lot of cap tied up in age +30 defensemen over multiple seasons.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

suter fowler
leddy faulk
krug parayko

that’s a stanley cup blueline ten years ago

 

[pitseleh]

Parayko, Faulk, Krug, Leddy, and now Fowler.

I don’t really get it for STL. That’s a lot of cap tied up in age +30 defensemen over multiple seasons.

They subscribe to the Erik Gudbranson theory of defencemen.

 

[DFAC]

Fowlers not the same player he was but that’s still a good deal for the Blues

Alvin needs to phone Verbeek right now cause it looks like he’s trying to save his job with questionable trades

 

[pitseleh]

suter fowler
leddy faulk
krug parayko

that’s a stanley cup blueline ten years ago

Parayko is the baby of the group. Three of those guys were representing the US at Sochi, one had a Cup, while Parayko was still a college student.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Steal for St. Louis, great for them, bad for the rest of the west.
Better the Blues than oils.

 

[Bobby9]

That’s all his value is?

Seems like a great deal for the blues

 

[Caspian]

suter fowler
leddy faulk
krug parayko

that’s a stanley cup blueline ten years ago

excluding Parayko that could have been the US Olympic team blueline 10 years ago too

 

[valkynax]

Fowlers not the same player he was but that’s still a good deal for the Blues

Alvin needs to phone Verbeek right now cause it looks like he’s trying to save his job with questionable trades

Shit, why is that giving me a case of deja vu...

 

[StreetHawk]

suter fowler
leddy faulk
krug parayko

that’s a stanley cup blueline ten years ago

STL would have a medical report on Krug's possibly return. Might be an indication that he won't return again.

I believe Leddy/Faulk and even Krug move from full NTC to MNTC next season.