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uncleben said:
That game in general is kind of funny to look at from a stats perspective.

Arizona put up 8 and held Chicago to 1
Headed into the game, their goal scorers had 8 career goals (Brown), 6 (Carcone), 14 (McBain), 12 (Durzi), and 6 (O'Brien)
and their goalie had 8 career wins (Ingram).
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And Keller (their best player) came out of it with zero points and a -1, RIP my fantasy points
 
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uncleben said:
That game in general is kind of funny to look at from a stats perspective.

Arizona put up 8 and held Chicago to 1
Headed into the game, their goal scorers had 8 career goals (Brown), 6 (Carcone), 14 (McBain), 12 (Durzi), and 6 (O'Brien)
and their goalie had 8 career wins (Ingram).
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McBain is someone I'd love to have on the Leafs.
 
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Jesus, the Pens are feeling the full force of what a Dubas in full control situation looks like. He needs that barrier between himself and going full Dubas.
 
All Mod Cons said:
Jesus, the Pens are feeling the full force of what a Dubas in full control situation looks like. He needs that barrier between himself and going full Dubas.
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What's funny is that their star players are producing.
He's the absolute worst GM in the league for assessing goalies (hence him giving Jarry that hilarious contract) and he definitely has no concept of what a team should look like outside of their star players.

Very glad to see another league suffer with this doofus at the helm.
 
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What's funny is that their star players are producing.
He's the absolute worst GM in the league for assessing goalies (hence him giving Jarry that hilarious contract) and he definitely has no concept of what a team should look like outside of their star players.

Very glad to see another league suffer with this doofus at the helm.
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Absolutely. He's like the guy in fantasy football that (auction) spends $188 bucks on McCaffrey, Chubb and J. Jefferson and the $12 on the rest of the team.

I can't stand his roster construction philosophy. The Penguins are going to suffer. Just wish he'd have gone to the Sens.
 
It's all fun and games to poke fun at Dubas now, but the reality is the Leafs teams the last several years were plenty good enough to go on deep runs. Maybe the strategy doesn't win any cups, who knows, but the two players that are supposed to lead us and be our McDavid/Draisaitl or MacKinnon/Rantanen have given us Danault/Gallagher level instead.

Given the lack of changes by Treliving when he could (before NMCs kicked in) I highly doubt Dubas had the authority to do what was actually needed to get this team to win.
 
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I thought he looked quite good that game too using his size and speed, and may have been a sign that he was due for a breakout year.

Habs or not, kind of sucks seeing a 1st overall pick struggling so much so soon. It's trending that he and Lafreniere will be battling it out for bigger 1st overall bust. I'm sure they'll forge decent careers, but nothing like their selection and talent would have you expect them to.
 
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Pens are an old team who wanted to compete so Dubas doubled down on a bad cap situation and made it worse in an attempt to make them competitive.

Karla’s , Graves, and Jarry are big expensive tickets.

Re-signing Jarry is looking pretty bad right now.
 
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Back to Dubas, his single biggest issue is one of his own making - Jarry. There was every red flag in the world a GM needed NOT to sign that guy to a 5yr deal at a price that becomes problematic. You could have gone with money or term and probably been okay but he with both and Jarry is turning out to be the exact goalie that made us all weary about signing him in the first place. Dubas tied that anchor to the twilight years of Sid, Geno, and Letang. All of the other moves, sans Karlsson, were arbitrary. He went all in on...Tristan...Jarry. As I said in his signing thread, I have no idea how many times big contracts given out to mediocre goalies becoming absolute anchors has to happen before GMs figure it out and stop doing it.

OMFG. How relatable is this? And he's only getting started Pens fans.
 
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All Mod Cons said:
Back to Dubas, his single biggest issue is one of his own making - Jarry. There was every red flag in the world a GM needed NOT to sign that guy to a 5yr deal at a price that becomes problematic. You could have gone with money or term and probably been okay but he with both and Jarry is turning out to be the exact goalie that made us all weary about signing him in the first place. Dubas tied that anchor to the twilight years of Sid, Geno, and Letang. All of the other moves, sans Karlsson, were arbitrary. He went all in on...Tristan...Jarry. As I said in his signing thread, I have no idea how many times big contracts given out to mediocre goalies becoming absolute anchors has to happen before GMs figure it out and stop doing it.

OMFG. How relatable is this? And he's only getting started Pens fans.
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Goaltending never really was Dubas' strong suit...
 
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VanW27 said:
It's all fun and games to poke fun at Dubas now, but the reality is the Leafs teams the last several years were plenty good enough to go on deep runs. Maybe the strategy doesn't win any cups, who knows, but the two players that are supposed to lead us and be our McDavid/Draisaitl or MacKinnon/Rantanen have given us Danault/Gallagher level instead.

Given the lack of changes by Treliving when he could (before NMCs kicked in) I highly doubt Dubas had the authority to do what was actually needed to get this team to win.
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Agreed. Even if he had full authority to do whatever he wanted, I stand firmly against the popular narrative that says Dubas is a moron, yada yada yada. Not sure how he's supposed to know that the team that is good enough to excel in the regular season, then compete in the playoffs will for some inexplicable reason forget how to play and compete in game 7 year after year after year.

Dubas did some good things, made some mistakes as well and that can be said about any GM. The timing of covid was also so bad for us coming right after we signed our stars, had it not been for that who knows how things would have played out.
 
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Fogelhund said:
McBain is someone I'd love to have on the Leafs.
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Two Yotes, including McBain had the Gordie Howe hatrick last night. The last time this happened was in 1988 and you guessed it, his dad was one of the two.

All Mod Cons said:
Jesus, the Pens are feeling the full force of what a Dubas in full control situation looks like. He needs that barrier between himself and going full Dubas.
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It's all fun and games to poke fun at Dubas now, but we are going to be eating crow when his Pens win 3 cups in the next 5 years. LOL.
 
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Fair point, but the Cap hit on the Pens 4th line is $6 mil.
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They have the same issue that we had where the top two lines and the 3/4 are incongruent ( with the bottom two just there to exist) along with having no identity.

The difference is that we have more top tier players then they do in the top 6 and our goaltending isn't as bad as theirs.

The pens are a weird mix of his final leafs teams and his original philosophy. I don't think the Karlsson trade made that much sense for them mostly because they weren't one piece away from the cup and were not great defensively anyways
 
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