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Wisp

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I have Benn and Skinner on my fantasy team. Good night for me.
 

canuck4life16

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Shark finally lose........Division rivals Wild and avs close......good day for canucks team and fans. Hopefully someone beat the hawks
 

vanuck

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Just reading about Kerry Fraser's take on Stoll's reckless check from behind on Fowler that resulted in an 'upper body injury'... Guy seems to get away with a lot of borderline hits.
 

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@aintitjayyyyyy: Congrats to my cousin Aaron Palushaj for being drafted to the Colorado Avalanche!!! Love you, you deserve it!! ☺❤"
 

Bleach Clean

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So this will be Kadri's 10th game tonight. Looks like he is doing well:


- 14.59 Corsi On (nice)
- 2.028 Corsi QoC (highest is Kulemin with 4.013)
- 0.339 Corsi Rel QoC
- 54.3% of shifts started in Ozone
- 1026 PDO (some luck)
- 14% Shooting percentage (likely to go down)


Doing better than I thought he would.
 

dave babych returns

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Too early to draw many conclusions but I would guess that the shooting percentage and PDO are sure bets to fall at some point.
 

me2

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So this will be Kadri's 10th game tonight. Looks like he is doing well:


- 14.59 Corsi On (nice)
- 2.028 Corsi QoC (highest is Kulemin with 4.013)
- 0.339 Corsi Rel QoC
- 54.3% of shifts started in Ozone
- 1026 PDO (some luck)
- 14% Shooting percentage (likely to go down)


Doing better than I thought he would.

might have to eat crow on Kadri if he can maintain it.
 

Tiranis

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Too early to draw many conclusions but I would guess that the shooting percentage and PDO are sure bets to fall at some point.

Won't have a huge impact on his production. I don't think that PDO is too crazy and it could be sustainable over the course of the year with some small amount of luck.

Thought he would've been a good piece to get at the time. Still think there's some concerns there (at least when he's playing center) and he likely wouldn't be getting this opportunity with AV due to the high-risk game he plays, but a very promising prospect nonetheless. He would look good on Schroeder's wing right now.
 

opendoor

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I wouldn't put too much stock into Corsi ratings this early in the season for determining QoC. There are tons of dangerous players who have poor ratings right now for various reasons.

Look at the Blackhawks for instance. Kane and Sharp have typically been fantastic Corsi players but so far this year they're terrible, despite their 5 on 5 production being fairly good. A player being matched up against those guys is going to have their QoC drop even though they're two of the most dangerous forwards on the team. Conversely, playing against Bollig and his +18.5 Corsi Relative is going to bump up a player's QoC rating even though he's useless and has been on the ice for only 2 GF in his career so far.
 

Wisp

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@aintitjayyyyyy: Congrats to my cousin Aaron Palushaj for being drafted to the Colorado Avalanche!!! Love you, you deserve it!! ☺❤"
hahah, my cousin also plays for the Avalanche.
 

vanuck

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I wouldn't put too much stock into Corsi ratings this early in the season for determining QoC. There are tons of dangerous players who have poor ratings right now for various reasons.

Look at the Blackhawks for instance. Kane and Sharp have typically been fantastic Corsi players but so far this year they're terrible, despite their 5 on 5 production being fairly good. A player being matched up against those guys is going to have their QoC drop even though they're two of the most dangerous forwards on the team. Conversely, playing against Bollig and his +18.5 Corsi Relative is going to bump up a player's QoC rating even though he's useless and has been on the ice for only 2 GF in his career so far.

Isn't QoC measured over the player's whole career? Or only season-by-season?
 

PG Canuck

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Tampa/Philly on TSN at 4:30PM if anyone was wondering. Also, Chicago/San Jose on the NHL Network at 7:30PM.

Should be good games, can't wait to watch Tampa.
 

vanuck

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tampa/philly on tsn at 4:30pm if anyone was wondering. Also, chicago/san jose on the nhl network at 7:30pm.

Should be good games, can't wait to watch tampa give up lots of goals.

ftfy.
 

opendoor

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Isn't QoC measured over the player's whole career? Or only season-by-season?

As far as I know it's only based on the current season's data. In the playoffs I believe it shrinks even further to only that playoffs' data.

I distinctly recall Kesler's Corsi Rel QoC looking very low after the 1st round of the 2011 playoffs despite the fact that he played a shut down role against Chicago's best players. The reason for that was that he did such an effective job over the small sample that normally high Corsi players like Toews and Campbell had miserable ratings which made his competition look easier than it actually was.
 

vanuck

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As far as I know it's only based on the current season's data. In the playoffs I believe it shrinks even further to only that playoffs' data.

I distinctly recall Kesler's Corsi Rel QoC looking very low after the 1st round of the 2011 playoffs despite the fact that he played a shut down role against Chicago's best players. The reason for that was that he did such an effective job over the small sample that normally high Corsi players like Toews and Campbell had miserable ratings which made his competition look easier than it actually was.

That is... very strange, to say the least. Especially for the playoffs, when the postseason represents a much smaller sample of players' career games to begin with. Might be one flaw worth considering.
 

pitseleh

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That is... very strange, to say the least. Especially for the playoffs, when the postseason represents a much smaller sample of players' career games to begin with. Might be one flaw worth considering.

Yeah, I've always thought that it would make more sense, at least for the playoffs, to use players' regular season results to determine qualcomp.

At this point you're better off looking at the players that a player has played the most against so far. For Kadri, it's (for forwards):

Grigorenko's line in Buffalo.
Hodgson/Vanek's line.
Peverley/Kelley in Boston.
Chimera/Ward in Washington.

For defencemen, he's mostly gotten soft minutes (guys like Ehrhoff, Brennan, Sekera, Ference, etc.) except when the Leafs played the Rangers and he mostly lined up against Ryan McDonagh.
 
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