Around the League - 2022 Off Season Edition

[ULF_55]

No, outside sponsors are doing that, and it's now legal.

Student athlete compensation - Wikipedia

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Yeah, I don't think it's settled yet.

Ohio State OSU CJ Stroud NCAA revenue sharing Big Ten NIL | TSN

CJ Stroud says revenue from the record-breaking TV deal just signed by the Big Ten should be shared by the players. The Ohio State quarterback and preseason Heisman favourite spoke a day after the conference signed a seven-year agreement with FOX, CBS and NBC worth over $7 billion.

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[DraftSchmaft]

So you don't want to get traded there but you want to sign there eh Nazem?

He bleeds blue that's why he vetoed the trade. He's actually on record saying that. Had nothing personal against the Flames

As a free agent he has no need to remain loyal and say no.

 

[Fogelhund]

Effectively trading:

Tkachuk, Gaudreau, Monahan, 1st

For

Huberdeau, Weegar, Kadri, 1st, prospect

All seems like a new gain.

I imagine flames ownership wasn’t in a rebuild mode so Trevilling did well to ensure his team can compete now.

Looks better if they can retain Weegar.

Definitely a shortened window but Markstrom is also getting older and so are other pieces on the roster.

Should be fun to see how this team looks under Sutter but I’m glad I’m not a flames fan first

I don’t think they will extend Weegar. Their d will be good enough without him, and he will likely seek $7-8mil, more than they can really afford.

 

[Stephen]

Is Eric Francis still crying about the state of Canada after the Flames offseason recovery? Hope the additions of Kadri, Weegar and Huberdeau will be enough to stem his Matthews free agency hot takes from that crybaby. I mean reporter.

 

[ULF_55]

Is Eric Francis still crying about the state of Canada after the Flames offseason recovery? Hope the additions of Kadri, Weegar and Huberdeau will be enough to stem his Matthews free agency hot takes from that crybaby. I mean reporter.

He has always been a ...

There are some real suck-ups covering the Flames. Especially sports radio. There are some who try and give honest opinions, but one I've listened to for years will make even the worst scenarios into a great event for the Flames. And his voice is like those whiners you had exposure to in your life.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Koreskovs and Shafigulin only have 4 years in the NHL. Believe both are primarily responsible for Russian amateur scouting, and that is arguably our greatest scouting weakness right now. Chris Hedlund only has 2 years of NHL experience after being a scout for Eliteprospects.com... And splits Sweden with Bergman. Radim Jelenik, if we go based on most team's scouting structure, is probably scouting Germany/Switzerland/Slovakia/Czechia... And so far, in the 6 years he's been here, we've only drafted Filip Kral (and that was out of the WHL).

We need a guy who can scout Finland like Vuori did (I assume Bergman and Hedlund are mostly focusing on Sweden), so that would probably be a good place to start: Janne Kekalainen (NSH), Jari Kekalainen (FLA), Kari Takko (DAL), etc. Problem is that most of the good scouts are already Directors and have been for a while, so it may be difficult to convince them to come here.

Of course, if you are going outside of Finland, then there are plenty of other good options:

Lucas Bergman and Martin Bukala (NSH): They have also been there for pretty much forever. Between the two, they have drafted Erat, Josi, Hörnqvist, Ekholm, Arvidsson, Fiala, and brought in Filip Forsberg at a young age over the past 24 years. Not a bad record. Lucas is also Thommie's son.

No idea what the Leafs are going to do to replace Vuori, but I imagine they have to have someone in mind for a fairly important position and I would hope it is not someone internal.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Anyone have any gut feeling on whether or not any of the Canadian WJC 2018 team are in danger of missing playing time this upcoming season?

 

[PromisedLand]

Carey Price is essentially done it seems, but he made sure to f*** us before he decided to LTIRetire.

absolutely hate the habs but I LOVE Price. Dude is a gem both on and off the ice.

Naz is a BOSS! I'd go to support him if I wasn't busy.

 

[GardinerTheForward]

How can we say Vuori drafted Sandin when he played in the OHL? How do these things work?

 

[Stephen]

How can we say Vuori drafted Sandin when he played in the OHL? How do these things work?

I think you're referencing a Tweet from a randomly excited Rangers fan at the hire who basically just named a random selection of Leaf picks from Europe.

Why did we lose Vuori anyway?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

How can we say Vuori drafted Sandin when he played in the OHL? How do these things work?

Bergman had a lot more to do with it. Sweden is his domain, and he likely scouted Sandin more than anyone.

Vuori was Finland, and unless we are moving one of our Swedish scouts to Finland, we will need someone new there.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

absolutely hate the habs but I LOVE Price. Dude is a gem both on and off the ice.



Naz is a BOSS! I'd go to support him if I wasn't busy.

Price is a good guy and I don’t think knits all that fair that his career is ending like this. I’m more lamenting typical Leafs luck that they were essentially one year off from facing an arguably generational goalie in the playoffs.

 

[Stephen]

How the heck did Noah Dobson only get $4 million over the next 3 seasons coming off a 51 point year on the Island? 6'4" RHD at 22. With Toronto's media machine behind him that would have been a $9.5 million "lock up the next Larry Robinson while you still can." Great deal for Lou. Noah Dobson though should go hire a better agent.

 

[BertCorbeau]

How the heck did Noah Dobson only get $4 million over the next 3 seasons coming off a 51 point year on the Island? 6'4" RHD at 22. With Toronto's media machine behind him that would have been a $9.5 million "lock up the next Larry Robinson while you still can." Great deal for Lou. Noah Dobson though should go hire a better agent.

It's interesting because some comps of guys getting a 3-year bridge to RFA status:

Sergachev in 2020 signed a 3 year, $4.8 AAV
Hronek in 2021 signed a 3 year $4.4 AAV
McAvoy in 2019 signed 3 years for $4.9 AAV
Werenski in 2019 signed 3 years for $5.0 AAV

Most guys had steadier production in their first three seasons 25-45 points, but neither matched Dobson's high this season.

Nice bargain for Lou. He's good at squeezing his RFA's that's for sure, but that's bit him in the ass in the past when it comes to signing them to a UFA deal.

 

[Stephen]

It's interesting because some comps of guys getting a 3-year bridge to RFA status:

Sergachev in 2020 signed a 3 year, $4.8 AAV
Hronek in 2021 signed a 3 year $4.4 AAV
McAvoy in 2019 signed 3 years for $4.9 AAV
Werenski in 2019 signed 3 years for $5.0 AAV

Most guys had steadier production in their first three seasons 25-45 points, but neither matched Dobson's high this season.

Nice bargain for Lou. He's good at squeezing his RFA's that's for sure, but that's bit him in the ass in the past when it comes to signing them to a UFA deal.

One thing this AAV illustrates is defensemen are traditionally more cost effective to build around than flashy elite forwards.

Notwithstanding some of the silly contracts that have been handed out the past couple of off-seasons, you can draft a stable of 4 elite to dependable blueliners like a Nashville, and you have pretty compact strong core group that can be on the ice that can eat up 45 minutes of the game. Throw in a goalie and you're contending. Not my stylistic preference, but I definitely respect that way of building.

 

[Dekes For Days]

One thing this AAV illustrates is defensemen are traditionally more cost effective to build around than flashy elite forwards.

Defensemen tend to be on a lower pay scale because their impact on teams tends to be lower, and less reliable/consistent. They're not really more cost effective.

 

[Menzinger]

Awesome for Phil

 

[PromisedLand]

Kessel signed for 1 yr deal at 1.5 AAV, meanwhile Leafs have scrap like Kerfoot + Holl both individually making more than Kessel ruining cap space.

Leafs management team is a freakin' JOKE

 

[Voodoo Child]

One thing this AAV illustrates is defensemen are traditionally more cost effective to build around than flashy elite forwards.

Notwithstanding some of the silly contracts that have been handed out the past couple of off-seasons, you can draft a stable of 4 elite to dependable blueliners like a Nashville, and you have pretty compact strong core group that can be on the ice that can eat up 45 minutes of the game. Throw in a goalie and you're contending. Not my stylistic preference, but I definitely respect that way of building.

Nashville is known as a Dman factory but it’s been a little more spread out.

Weber and Suter came after the 2004 lockout, Hamhuis as well as kind of a forgotten man. I’m fairly certain they picked up Timmonen in the expansion draft.

They traded away Franson and Ellis, which is fine, Franson would not be able to play the game at 2022 speed and Ellis is one of the glassiest players ever.

Ekholm and Josi played their first games in 2011, since then all they’ve gotten are Jones and Girard, both traded, and I guess Fabbro but he’s not really anything special.

They always identify who to keep, and trade the rest for the offensive talent they’ve never drafted - they also traded Fiala for Granlund.

I think it’s easier to run a baseline competitive team with a good stable of D, but you aren’t winning anything without a good group up front.

The current Islanders remind me of the Preds 5-7 years ago; a very good top four D (Pulock, Pelech, Romanov and Dobson), one elite forward and a bunch of okay guys and grinders - Martin and Clutterbuck, not one of them but both, for two years, four years to someone named Ross Johnston, significant term on Pageau and Cizikas.

I have no idea what Lou is doing, but I’m happy he isn’t doing it here.

I honestly don’t remember the last team a team had not just one but multiple stud D prospects come in and make a big splash - aside from the most recent winners who got lucky enough to get a once every ten year player and a very fortunately timed lottery pick.

Like McAvoy and Werenski before him, Dobson will be getting a significant bag, no way he says ‘I’ll take 7 because I don’t want Pulock and Pelech to get jealous.’

Maybe individually having one elite D is better than having one elite forward, but if you get multiples it’s better to have two high end forwards because you can spread them out a lot more.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Kessel signed for 1 yr deal at 1.5 AAV, meanwhile Leafs have scrap like Kerfoot + Holl both individually making more than Kessel ruining cap space.

Leafs management team is a freakin' JOKE

Kerfoot outscored Kessel 47 to 38 at even strength last year and played on the PK. Phil wouldn't have a spot to be productive in our bottom 6 anyways.

I think Holl and Kerfoot should be moved but using this as a reason to call management a joke is silly.

 

[Anthrax442]

Kessel signed for 1 yr deal at 1.5 AAV, meanwhile Leafs have scrap like Kerfoot + Holl both individually making more than Kessel ruining cap space.

Leafs management team is a freakin' JOKE

I rather have both of those over Kessel at this point. They are way more useful.

 

[Stephen]

Nashville is known as a Dman factory but it’s been a little more spread out.

Weber and Suter came after the 2004 lockout, Hamhuis as well as kind of a forgotten man. I’m fairly certain they picked up Timmonen in the expansion draft.

They traded away Franson and Ellis, which is fine, Franson would not be able to play the game at 2022 speed and Ellis is one of the glassiest players ever.

Ekholm and Josi played their first games in 2011, since then all they’ve gotten are Jones and Girard, both traded, and I guess Fabbro but he’s not really anything special.

They always identify who to keep, and trade the rest for the offensive talent they’ve never drafted - they also traded Fiala for Granlund.

I think it’s easier to run a baseline competitive team with a good stable of D, but you aren’t winning anything without a good group up front.

The current Islanders remind me of the Preds 5-7 years ago; a very good top four D (Pulock, Pelech, Romanov and Dobson), one elite forward and a bunch of okay guys and grinders - Martin and Clutterbuck, not one of them but both, for two years, four years to someone named Ross Johnston, significant term on Pageau and Cizikas.

I have no idea what Lou is doing, but I’m happy he isn’t doing it here.

I honestly don’t remember the last team a team had not just one but multiple stud D prospects come in and make a big splash - aside from the most recent winners who got lucky enough to get a once every ten year player and a very fortunately timed lottery pick.

Like McAvoy and Werenski before him, Dobson will be getting a significant bag, no way he says ‘I’ll take 7 because I don’t want Pulock and Pelech to get jealous.’

Maybe individually having one elite D is better than having one elite forward, but if you get multiples it’s better to have two high end forwards because you can spread them out a lot more.

Good analysis on Nashville. I don’t think the Islanders are much like the Predators in that they have a coherent defensive based plan. They kind of remind me of the mid 2010s New Jersey Devils with a random collection of lunch pail guys who can be tapped for a playoff run here and there but will likely go off a cliff into uncompetitive hockey at some point.

Dobson is a nice individual contract but I don’t see winning potential with that program overall.

 

[uncleben]

Kerfoot outscored Kessel 47 to 38 at even strength last year and played on the PK. Phil wouldn't have a spot to be productive in our bottom 6 anyways.

I think Holl and Kerfoot should be moved but using this as a reason to call management a joke is silly.

Yeah.

I love Kessel and would have been excited to find a way to fit him back on the team for one more run,
but putting him instead of Kerfoot would pretty definitively not be the bump to get us over the hump lol