Around the League - 2022-23 Season Edition

[SeaOfBlue]

They seriously only have 13 players signed and only $5.5 million to spend? Not questioning you I just had no idea it was that bad

They will likely open up some space by buying out or trading Reilly. Most of their defense will be signed (they need one bottom pairing RD) and since I would imagine that Krejci and Bergeron would re-sign for similar deals as they have this year, they should have most of their top 9 signed too. Frederic is not going to get a huge raise.

Swayman may be a tough sign though... And they are going to have to really cheap out on their 4th line and 3RD without too many quality prospects to really step in there.

If I were some top NCAA UFA's right now (i.e. Livingstone), I would be hoping that Boston calls me. Livingstone could play on a Cup Contender next year.

 

[horner]

Bever

One never knows .
I would think that the pasta changes things.

Imagine Bergeron becoming a Ufa

They seriously only have 13 players signed and only $5.5 million to spend? Not questioning you I just had no idea it was that bad

I could be wrong

TB is really screwed next yr as well

 

[ToneDog]

Pasta with #50.

Jack Edwards blowing a gasket after Bertuzzi goal waived off due to MacAvoy penalty in front of the Bruins net. Questioning the Matthews tying goal last night as it was scored after the whistle. Talk about a homer.

 

[Legion34]

I could be wrong

TB is really screwed next yr as well

They have 5.5 million left with

6 forwards
6 d
Ulmark

They still don’t have: swayman, Frederick,Orlov, Bergy, krecji to sign

 

[3blizzard4]

Anderson laying a egg vs Boston. All the goals he let in very soft. Nightmares of Leafs past.

 

[Arzak]

They seriously only have 13 players signed and only $5.5 million to spend? Not questioning you I just had no idea it was that bad

They have 5.5 million left with

6 forwards
6 d
Ulmark

They still don’t have: swayman, Frederick,Orlov, Bergy, krecji to sign

They have 16 players signed. At least according to capfriendly... $8.7mill assuming $1mill raise in cap- so possibly as much as $12.2 mil in cap space for next season.

Orlov was likely a rental for this playoff.
They are losing Foligno @3.5 mil

Swayman and Frederic are both RFA. They have Vezina Ulmark - Swayman could fetch 1st and they would still have Vezina goalie.


If they resign Bergy and Krejci

Marchand Bergeron Debrusk
Zacha Krejci Pastrnak
Hall Coyle
Lauko

McAvoy Lindhol
Grzelcyk Carlo
Zboril Forbot

Ulmark


Is this the doom you are predicting?

 

[Legion34]

They have 16 players signed. At least according to capfriendly...

Orlov was likely a rental for this playoff.
They are losing Foligno @3.5

Swayman and Frederic are both RFA. They have Vezina Ulmark - Swayman could fetch 1st and they would still have Vezina goalie.


If they resign Bergy and Krejci

Marchand Bergeron Debrusk
Zacha Krejci Pastrnak
Hall Coyle
Lauko

McAvoy Lindhol
Grzelcyk Carlo
Zboril Forbot

Ulmark


Is this the doom you are predicting?

They have 5.5 million to sign a back up and 6 forwards. What are you seeing? How do you see that happening are krecji and Bergeron signing for 750k?

Can you make an armchair gm that shows it?
I can’t see it working with an 83.5 cap….

Which MAY mean that Jacobs will push bettman to increase the cap

 

[Arzak]

They have 5.5 million to sign a back up and 6 forwards. What are you seeing? How do you see that happening are krecji and Bergeron signing for 750k?

Can you make an armchair gm that shows it?
I can’t see it working with an 83.5 cap….

Which MAY mean that Jacobs will push bettman to increase the cap

I'm sorry you're having a bad day.

They have 16 players signed and $8,675,000 free if we are going with 83.5 cap.

Yes I can see them sign for $1+bonuses again.

Your numbers - 13 players and 5.5 million.

It's Krejci btw

 

[Legion34]

I'm sorry you're having a bad day.

They have 16 players signed and $8,675,000 free if we are going with 83.5 cap.

Yes I can see them sign for $1+bonuses again.

Your numbers - 13 players and 5.5 million.

It's Krejci btw

No.

They owe 4.5 million in performance bonuses for this year that get counted against next years cap


Bergy signed for 5 million with 2.5 in performance bonuses on next years cap (played 20 games)

Krecji took 2 million in performance bonuses which were hit when they clinched the playoffs.

So no. You are wrong.

You can double check if you like

I should clarify. With the expected 83.5 they have about 7 million left

With swayman Clifton Frederick Bergy krecji Orlov bertuzzi to sign

 

[Arzak]

No.

They owe 4.5 million in performance bonuses for this year that get counted against next years cap


Bergy signed for 5 million with 2.5 in performance bonuses on next years cap (played 20 games)

Krecji took 2 million in performance bonuses which were hit when they clinched the playoffs.

So no. You are wrong.

You can double check if you like

I should clarify. With the expected 83.5 they have about 7 million left

With swayman Clifton Frederick Bergy krecji Orlov bertuzzi to sign

No they don't. Again it's $8,675,000 with 83.5 cap

I can double-check as many times as you want it's still $8,675,000.

To quote the rule book:

A team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit.

So roughly $ 6.1 million to exceed the cap and pay performance bonuses this year.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

They have 16 players signed. At least according to capfriendly... $8.7mill assuming $1mill raise in cap- so possibly as much as $12.2 mil in cap space for next season.

Orlov was likely a rental for this playoff.
They are losing Foligno @3.5 mil

Swayman and Frederic are both RFA. They have Vezina Ulmark - Swayman could fetch 1st and they would still have Vezina goalie.


If they resign Bergy and Krejci

Marchand Bergeron Debrusk
Zacha Krejci Pastrnak
Hall Coyle
Lauko

McAvoy Lindhol
Grzelcyk Carlo
Zboril Forbot

Ulmark


Is this the doom you are predicting?

This is with Boston buying out Mike Reilly (just under 400k in dead cap but they save almost 1.5 mill vs. burying him), Krejci and Bergeron having the same base cap as this year but I added their full performance bonuses from this year since that should be an overage, and nobody else being signed including Frederic and Swayman.

5 spots to fill with 820k on average to spend per position. No matter what, you are looking at least one guy going out to make the lineup work... And that is if you cheap out on pretty much every open spot at the same time.

It is pretty dire for Boston. They'll probably work it out, but they are looking at dumping salary or hoping for more than a 1 mill cap raise to make it work.

 

[Legion34]

No they don't. Again it's $8,675,000 with 83.5 cap

I can double-check as many times as you want it's still $8,675,000.

To quote the rule book:

A team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit.

So roughly $ 6.1 million to exceed the cap and pay performance bonuses this year.

No?
The performance bonuses get added to next year. They exceeded the cap this year.

Are you suggesting they just get to have extra cap this year…. For fun?

The leafs had multiple performance bonuses for Matthews. Marner nylander. They got deducted from the cap…. The following year. It happened for 3 straight years

Do you honestly think they just get to go over?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

No they don't. Again it's $8,675,000 with 83.5 cap

I can double-check as many times as you want it's still $8,675,000.

To quote the rule book:

A team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit.

So roughly $ 6.1 million to exceed the cap and pay performance bonuses this year.

That is the amount they can exceed in a given year due to performance bonuses. It is just like a team can be 10% over the cap in the offseason, but they need to be cap compliant by the start of the season. A team can't use performance bonuses to completely circumvent the cap. Any overage reduces the team's upper cap limit the next year (the next section after the bolded). IDK if Boston will have a full overage of 4.5 mill next year, but they will have penalties that will limit their spending ability.

To the extent a Club's Averaged Club Salary exceeds its Upper Limit as a result of: (i) Exhibit 5 Individual "A" Performance Bonuses and "B" Performance Bonuses paid by the Club that may be earned by Players in the Entry Level System and (ii) Performance Bonuses that may be earned by Players pursuant to Section 50.2(b)(i)(C) above, then the Club's Upper Limit for the next League Year shall be reduced by an amount equal to such excess.

They decided to kick the bucket down the road to be competitive this year. It will hurt them next year though.

 

[CatchyTune]

I could be wrong

TB is really screwed next yr as well

b-but i thought the leafs were the only team to ever experience cap hell?

 

[Burnie97]

Lol at pastas 50th haha.

You know when things are going well jeez

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Need the Penguins to leapfrog the Islanders to set up BOS-NYI first round.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Vancouver with another late season hot streak

 

[stickty111]

Kings are a really good team. If they get goaltending, they could go on a run.

 

[Fogelhund]

That is the amount they can exceed in a given year due to performance bonuses. It is just like a team can be 10% over the cap in the offseason, but they need to be cap compliant by the start of the season. A team can't use performance bonuses to completely circumvent the cap. Any overage reduces the team's upper cap limit the next year (the next section after the bolded). IDK if Boston will have a full overage of 4.5 mill next year, but they will have penalties that will limit their spending ability.



They decided to kick the bucket down the road to be competitive this year. It will hurt them next year though.

I think Boston will have just two players hit their performance bonuses... there are others with them... but I don't think they hit.

Bergeron's bonus details -> P. BONUS DETAILS: 10 GP bonus: $2.5M Achieved
Krejci's bonus details -> P. BONUS DETAILS: Games played bonus: $1M at 10GP, $500k at 20GP | $500k bonus earned for playoffs qualification Fully Achieved

So that's $4.5 million in bonus that has to be carried over to next year. Which gives them a $78,212,500 cap hit next year, with 14 roster players signed.

So $5,287,500 left to get spread around 6/7/8 guys...

I mean sure... this is the year they are going for it... and kudos to them... but next year... ouch.

 

[Gabriel426]

I really hope this won’t happen but I wish TB could clinch before Leafs play their last game with Panthers. Imagine Panthers clinch because they beat the Leafs and got 4 pts and Leafs beat TB in regulation. Then we will all be going Leafs is going to win….then Panthers shut us out in 4 games.
I really want the Leafs to take care of business agains the best teams like the Raptors. The Raptors beat Magic who was the best team since Jan 1, then they beat 76ers who got the best starting 5 in the East followed by beating the best team in the league and league MVP and finished off by beating GS the reigning Champ.

 

[willmma]

Need the Penguins to leapfrog the Islanders to set up BOS-NYI first round.

The Penguins are actually ahead in pt%

 

[Arzak]

That is the amount they can exceed in a given year due to performance bonuses. It is just like a team can be 10% over the cap in the offseason, but they need to be cap compliant by the start of the season. A team can't use performance bonuses to completely circumvent the cap. Any overage reduces the team's upper cap limit the next year (the next section after the bolded). IDK if Boston will have a full overage of 4.5 mill next year, but they will have penalties that will limit their spending ability.



They decided to kick the bucket down the road to be competitive this year. It will hurt them next year though.

Performance Bonuses and Carryover Overage | Puckpedia

The performance bonuses for this season are not officially factored in until after the regular season is completed. At that point, any performance bonuses earned are added to the final cap hit number for the season, and the amount that total is over $82.5M is the bonus carryover overage for next year. A GM may choose to create some space during the year so that when that end of season calculation happens, the bonuses earned do not put the total over the $82.5M cap.


They might be able to pay some of it this year.

That is the amount they can exceed in a given year due to performance bonuses. It is just like a team can be 10% over the cap in the offseason, but they need to be cap compliant by the start of the season. A team can't use performance bonuses to completely circumvent the cap. Any overage reduces the team's upper cap limit the next year (the next section after the bolded). IDK if Boston will have a full overage of 4.5 mill next year, but they will have penalties that will limit their spending ability.



They decided to kick the bucket down the road to be competitive this year. It will hurt them next year though.

I can not rule out cap magic and the possibility some of it if not all will be paid this year. Something like paying the bonus while having Hall on LTIR or some other loophole.


But let's assume they will carry over 4.5, this is considered performance bonus overage - can they bury it again under 7.5% performance bonus cushion for next year ?

My understanding was that they can "defer" it one more time as long as the total amount of bonuses owed don't exceed 7.5%, previous years+ current season.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Kings are a really good team. If they get goaltending, they could go on a run.

I think the kings are gonna be the surprise team of the west.

 

[Dekes For Days]

The performance bonuses for this season are not officially factored in until after the regular season is completed. At that point, any performance bonuses earned are added to the final cap hit number for the season, and the amount that total is over $82.5M is the bonus carryover overage for next year. A GM may choose to create some space during the year so that when that end of season calculation happens, the bonuses earned do not put the total over the $82.5M cap.

They might be able to pay some of it this year.

I can not rule out cap magic and the possibility some of it if not all will be paid this year. Something like paying the bonus while having Hall on LTIR or some other loophole.

But let's assume they will carry over 4.5, this is considered performance bonus overage - can they bury it again under 7.5% performance bonus cushion for next year ?

My understanding was that they can "defer" it one more time as long as the total amount of bonuses owed don't exceed 7.5%, previous years+ current season.

Boston is already over the cap for this year, and you can't use an LTIR cushion to cover performance bonuses. They also can't defer it another year. It comes off next year's cap.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Yeah I mean the Bruins are kind of screwed with the cap next year. Like they blatantly have gone all in on this year, which I mean they should be. That isn't to say they are going to be bad next year....they just won't be historically great again.