GDT: Around the League - 2021/22 PART IV

[AcerComputer]

Never understood the Marchment trade. Was a headsratcher at the time, because he still had some upside as a late bloomer, to go with his size. He looked good in the 4 games he was up and great in the AHL.

 

[Puckstuff]

Thanks Dubas.

He's developing into one of the best power forwards in the game but the bright side is he's 26 so he's set to be a UFA and get PAID, likely 5+ million so we wouldn't even be able to keep him anyway. Florida only gets 1 elite year from him at a cheap cost.

 

[The Podium]

He's developing into one of the best power forwards in the game but the bright side is he's 26 so he's set to be a UFA and get PAID, likely 5+ million so we wouldn't even be able to keep him anyway. Florida only gets 1 elite year from him at a cheap cost.

Florida also has 32 more goals scored than the Leafs, who are 4th in the league in GF, so it’s unlikely he has that sort of production anywhere else.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

He's shooting over 20% and his on ice shooting percentage is almost double league average. He's the beneficiary of some crazy puck luck. He's probably closer to a 45-50 point player than the ppg+ pace he's on now.

Sure, but he’s doing it all on their third line.

 

[Dekes For Days]

because he still had some upside as a late bloomer, to go with his size. He looked good in the 4 games he was up and great in the AHL.

He was about to turn 25, was a year from UFA, had been nothing more than a mediocre AHLer for 4 years, and was bad in the 4 NHL games he played. We likely wouldn't have him right now whether we did the trade or not, and whoever signs him after this year riding an inflated OISH% is probably going to regret it pretty fast.

 

[Dragao6]

He's developing into one of the best power forwards in the game but the bright side is he's 26 so he's set to be a UFA and get PAID, likely 5+ million so we wouldn't even be able to keep him anyway. Florida only gets 1 elite year from him at a cheap cost.

So is he like the definition of what we need?? Lol
Even a Toronto kid
Oh boy

 

[ACC1224]

Florida also has 32 more goals scored than the Leafs, who are 4th in the league in GF, so it’s unlikely he has that sort of production anywhere else.

Isn't his production part of the reason why they're 4th in the league?

 

[uncleben]

So is he like the definition of what we need?? Lol
Even a Toronto kid
Oh boy

It's not like we looked at him as a PPG NHL power forward on a near league min contract and then turned our nose up at him and said no.
We tried him. We developed him. We gave him a shot. He didn't really improve. He didn't win a spot. We moved on and he caught fire on a team that is playing hot and could give him more of a chance.

People complained about the stat watching of Hyman, but the obsession with Marchment is getting wild.

 

[Clark4Ever]

It's not like we looked at him as a PPG NHL power forward on a near league min contract and then turned our nose up at him and said no.
We tried him. We developed him. We gave him a shot. He didn't really improve. He didn't win a spot. We moved on and he caught fire on a team that is playing hot and could give him more of a chance.

People complained about the stat watching of Hyman, but the obsession with Marchment is getting wild.

Nonetheless, I think it's fair to question the motives of the trade at the time it occurred, considering that Denis Malgin was the player we acquired in return. Marchment still had potential upside at the time and was only given a 4 game stint with the Leafs before Dubas cut bait.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

He's developing into one of the best power forwards in the game but the bright side is he's 26 so he's set to be a UFA and get PAID, likely 5+ million so we wouldn't even be able to keep him anyway. Florida only gets 1 elite year from him at a cheap cost.

I hope he keeps shooting over 20% so Edmonton can sign him to a nice long contract instead of signing a goalie again.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Nonetheless, I think it's fair to question the motives of the trade at the time it occurred, considering that Denis Malgin was the player we acquired in return. Marchment still had potential upside at the time and was only given a 4 game stint with the Leafs before Dubas cut bait.

Marchment was in our organization for 4 years, and didn't earn more than 4 games. Marchment didn't even really earn those 4 games - he got them due to injury, and was pretty bad in them. Malgin had more potential upside than Marchment, and it was getting to the point where even if there was potential upside in Marchment (which is entirely hindsight thinking), it wasn't going to be realized until post-UFA status anyway. There was nothing wrong with the trade.

 

[ACC1224]

Nonetheless, I think it's fair to question the motives of the trade at the time it occurred, considering that Denis Malgin was the player we acquired in return. Marchment still had potential upside at the time and was only given a 4 game stint with the Leafs before Dubas cut bait.

Yeah it was an obvious mistake, no one could deny that. All teams make them, you just move on and hope it doesn't happen again.

 

[The Podium]

Isn't his production part of the reason why they're 4th in the league?

The Leafs are in 4th, the Panthers are far and away #1. They are on pace to shatter the most goals scored by a team in the 2000s, beating the 18-19 Lightning by 20.

No doubt their offensive depth large contributor to that, and their run and gun system helps, but with that many goals for that’s a lot of points to go around.

 

[ACC1224]

The Leafs are in 4th, the Panthers are far and away #1. They are on pace to shatter the most goals scored by a team in the 2000s, beating the 18-19 Lightening by 20.

No doubt their offensive depth large contributor to that, and their run and gun system helps, but with that many goals for that’s a lot of points to go around.

Yep, fair point.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Didn't really mind the trade at the time, but lol @ people who wrote him off after only 4 games in the NHL.

Glad he is doing well and I hope he gets a massive raise this summer.

 

[Dragao6]

It's not like we looked at him as a PPG NHL power forward on a near league min contract and then turned our nose up at him and said no.
We tried him. We developed him. We gave him a shot. He didn't really improve. He didn't win a spot. We moved on and he caught fire on a team that is playing hot and could give him more of a chance.

People complained about the stat watching of Hyman, but the obsession with Marchment is getting wild.

I’m not saying the leafs did anything wrong because I 100% agree we dealt with what he was doing with us at the time

just saying our need is power forward and he seems to be playing like it now

 

[Puckstuff]

I hope he keeps shooting over 20% so Edmonton can sign him to a nice long contract instead of signing a goalie again.

Exactly. It’s a game of economics. Marchment (and Hyman) isn’t as valuable at 5.5 + million.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Didn't really mind the trade at the time, but lol @ people who wrote him off after only 4 games in the NHL.

Glad he is doing well and I hope he gets a massive raise this summer.

Yet people have written Malgin off after 8 games with us in the NHL, despite playing 200 other games with Florida and being the same age as Marchment was when Marchment even started playing in the NHL.

We also didn't write him off after 4 NHL games (where he was genuinely bad, whereas Malgin was actually good in his games). We wrote him off after a bunch of AHL games where he effectively played like an AHL version of Ritchie (who could score at a normal rate) too.

 

[Confucius]

Buffalo just a bad team, how they won a single game this year is indeed a mystery. As I say that they tie it up. LOL! and give it back 30 seconds later... ofcourse

 

[3blizzard4]

So after we dominated Vancouver in a tilted affair and we lost, Demko has spotted 5 goals to San Jose and Anaheim. He was just pulled in the Anaheim game in the second period after the fifth goal.

 

[123offtheglass]

Never understood the Marchment trade. Was a headsratcher at the time, because he still had some upside as a late bloomer, to go with his size. He looked good in the 4 games he was up and great in the AHL.

And Keefe seemed to really liked him, it was a headscratcher; they already had lots of what Malgin was too (ex. Petan).

 

[Dekes For Days]

they already had lots of what Malgin was too (ex. Petan).

We had what Marchment was too. We had other guys like him at the AHL level (which is all he was, and all he seemed destined to be), and we had just acquired a better version of him in Clifford for the NHL team two weeks prior. Malgin and Petan also aren't all that similar. People just have a tendency to think all smaller players are the same.

 

[francis246]

It's not like we looked at him as a PPG NHL power forward on a near league min contract and then turned our nose up at him and said no.
We tried him. We developed him. We gave him a shot. He didn't really improve. He didn't win a spot. We moved on and he caught fire on a team that is playing hot and could give him more of a chance.

People complained about the stat watching of Hyman, but the obsession with Marchment is getting wild.

he was better than Gauthier.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Never understood the Marchment trade. Was a headsratcher at the time, because he still had some upside as a late bloomer, to go with his size. He looked good in the 4 games he was up and great in the AHL.

Malgin was younger, a RW, and had almost 200 NHL games at the time of the deal while Marchment was a fringe NHLer with next to no experience and was going to require waivers the followong year.

At the time it was a win for us. Good on the player to take advantage of the opportunity but there was absolutely zero indication that Marchment would ever go on this kind of heater at the NHL level.

 

[Leafs1991]

Buffalo just a bad team, how they won a single game this year is indeed a mystery. As I say that they tie it up. LOL! and give it back 30 seconds later... ofcourse

They got some good players