Look at how how Fabbro was handled. Same goes for Tomasino. Now Pars is getting same treatment. IDK if either BT/AB can evaluate anything right now. They haven't shown it. AB was given his team in FL that was stacked. Same goes for BT in DC. He didn't do as well in NYI. Heck Lavy did better here than BT ever did and BT had at one time Peter Forsberg, Paul Kariya, JP Dumont, Steve Sullivan, Jason Arnott, Rads, Shea Weber, Hartnell, Zidlicky, Ryan Suter and more! ALL on the same team!! And how far did they get in the playoffs? So BT wins the SC with a loaded Caps team and is now some genius. I think he may be a good coach but he hasn't shown he is a great GM.
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Even Hynes before Bruno with Tolvanen. Im not sure anyone in this organization can properly evaluate young forward talent.
How i imagine it:
"I tried him with minimal minutes with grinders. I tried deploying him in a defensive role. I gave him 3 shifts with the top 6. I tried giving him new linemates every shift. And after all that, he still isnt producing"
Sissons was thrown on the 2nd line for several games. They didnt produce at all and got scored on frequently. They got all sorts of runway. Pärssinen, Tomasino, Svechkov, and L'Heureux arent extended that kind of opportunity. They get a shift or at most a game and if it dont work out they are discarded/demoted.
Fabbro played perfectly fine when given the opportunity to play. Then out of the blue he is just waived. Didnt even need the roster space. Just told to bugger off.
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In Parssinen's case, "production" isn't going to be him scoring hat tricks every game. (Watching the stats line isn't going to tell someone much.) He's a big, strong kid, who should be playing C in a north/south system. He can move people off the puck. He isn't afraid to go to the hard areas and knows how to use his size to possess the puck. To use him properly, I think, is to put him out there on consistent shifts for a string of games and let him find his groove with a pair of wingers that can mesh with him being the playmaker and score the goals.
And under Bruno that absolutely has not happened. Nothing close to it, since as we all know Bruno's system is inverted. Wingers are supposed to play back and defensemen are supposed to drive to the net. Wingers are supposed to be puck movers in a one-and-done attack after selling out on extended d-zone shifts... and, Bruno insists on using Juuso as a winger.
Getting rid of him does seem like the most likely Trotz move (and I've said as much for quite a while now). It would be a mistake and another short sighted dumb-as-a-fence-post utilization of resources for a team that really should be thinking about what it needs to be 2, 3, 4 seasons from now. Getting rid of the younger, developing guys on the cusp of being useful NHL players so we can keep aging tweener retreads around is exactly the wrong message to send within the organization as a whole. Couple that with situations like Askarov, where the developing player becomes disillusioned and is thrown away because "he didn't want to be here." In a league with 31 other teams, it's patently obvious to young players that there are other opportunities.
And under Bruno that absolutely has not happened. Nothing close to it, since as we all know Bruno's system is inverted. Wingers are supposed to play back and defensemen are supposed to drive to the net. Wingers are supposed to be puck movers in a one-and-done attack after selling out on extended d-zone shifts... and, Bruno insists on using Juuso as a winger.
Getting rid of him does seem like the most likely Trotz move (and I've said as much for quite a while now). It would be a mistake and another short sighted dumb-as-a-fence-post utilization of resources for a team that really should be thinking about what it needs to be 2, 3, 4 seasons from now. Getting rid of the younger, developing guys on the cusp of being useful NHL players so we can keep aging tweener retreads around is exactly the wrong message to send within the organization as a whole. Couple that with situations like Askarov, where the developing player becomes disillusioned and is thrown away because "he didn't want to be here." In a league with 31 other teams, it's patently obvious to young players that there are other opportunities.
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You're a team failing to score consistently. Yes, the big guns have not been producing. Add more talent to the lineup to supplement the big guns. I don't see how McCarron and Smith are better options than Svechkov and Parsinnen. McC and Smith are not going to be long term fixtures and the team already sucks so why keep playing guys that have no future with the team as opposed to kids who might?
I was having a discussion with some folks that I'm in a fantasy league with and they mentioned these two can play the PK. I responded with, we have more than enough guys who can play the PK and if the only reason to keep McC and Smith in the lineup is because of that, I'm vehemently opposed. 5 on 5 play happens more and we're struggling there so anything we can do to improve our 4 lines I'm all for.
I just don't get the love for these two. We put them out there to start games why exactly? To prove our identity? We put them out there after we score goals, killing all momentum in most instances. We put them out there regularly and lose momentum. If they're out there and getting beat by the other team repeatedly, this is a problem. Let them see the bench and get the kids out there playing and seeing what you've got. In a shorter time, Svechkov has shown more than either of them yet got benched with the return of ROR and Gus last night. Stupid is mild to what I really want to say.
I was having a discussion with some folks that I'm in a fantasy league with and they mentioned these two can play the PK. I responded with, we have more than enough guys who can play the PK and if the only reason to keep McC and Smith in the lineup is because of that, I'm vehemently opposed. 5 on 5 play happens more and we're struggling there so anything we can do to improve our 4 lines I'm all for.
I just don't get the love for these two. We put them out there to start games why exactly? To prove our identity? We put them out there after we score goals, killing all momentum in most instances. We put them out there regularly and lose momentum. If they're out there and getting beat by the other team repeatedly, this is a problem. Let them see the bench and get the kids out there playing and seeing what you've got. In a shorter time, Svechkov has shown more than either of them yet got benched with the return of ROR and Gus last night. Stupid is mild to what I really want to say.
So the last two players that were at one time regular players to get wiaved/traded were Fabbro and Tomasino. Now that both are playing regular minutes and being utilized on their current teams, their stats are:
Fabbro - 15 games- 3G/4A/7P +13 22:13TOI
Tomasion - 7 games- 3G/1A/4P -1 15:31TOI
Two players and 11 points. This Org has no idea what it is doing right now! The old way of cook the young players in the AHL is the way of the past! Fans have ALWAYS wondered why we have had a hard time getting top players to come to Nashville. Maybe it is the way the Org plays or handles its players. IDK. But the top two leaders now sure ain't getting it done!
Fabbro - 15 games- 3G/4A/7P +13 22:13TOI
Tomasion - 7 games- 3G/1A/4P -1 15:31TOI
Two players and 11 points. This Org has no idea what it is doing right now! The old way of cook the young players in the AHL is the way of the past! Fans have ALWAYS wondered why we have had a hard time getting top players to come to Nashville. Maybe it is the way the Org plays or handles its players. IDK. But the top two leaders now sure ain't getting it done!
If he clears, we probably trade Pärssinen for him so we have something to show for it instead of waiving Pärssinen. Similar to what we did last year with Gurionov
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