Speculation: Armchair GM Thread

[Roman Yoshi]

Trotz.had a good interview today on 102.5. I really like the human (loved growing up with his kids) but I really don't trust his words as GM. His actions with the young guys seem very different than his words.

He also mentioned that had it built into their models that guys would regress this year so they got offensive help in Stamkos and Marchy to keep the goal rate up.

Ummm Barry, you said you didn't want to be mushy middle but you went out and made moves to ensure that is where we would be.

Lastly, my impression of Trotz really is he is more interested in helping coach Brunnette to be a successful NHL coach than develop our players.

 

[Softball99]

We should've snagged Alec Regula before Edmonton

 

[101st_fan]

We should've snagged Alec Regula before Edmonton

At least Gravel has some familiarity with whatever it is Bruno expects from a player. Regula would be put in a position to struggle.

 

[Armourboy]

We should've snagged Alec Regula before Edmonton

He wasn't small enough.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

Canes fan here. Curious what package you think would get it done for Ryan O'Reilly.

Would there be any interest in O'Reilly for

2025 1st round pick
Jack Drury
Noel Franson

I think a 1st has to be part of the package, and it makes sense to also deal Kotkaniemi or Drury (I'd imagine you'd much prefer Drury who isn't signed for forever). I'd also imagine a prospect would need to be included. Noel Franson was our 3rd round defenseman from last year who is 0.5 PPG for Allsvenskan. I think it's fair to also include a prospect but I wouldn't do Nikishin or Artamanov. I'm not sure what Nashville's organization needs are in the system.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Canes fan here. Curious what package you think would get it done for Ryan O'Reilly.

Would there be any interest in O'Reilly for

2025 1st round pick
Jack Drury
Noel Franson

I think a 1st has to be part of the package, and it makes sense to also deal Kotkaniemi or Drury (I'd imagine you'd much prefer Drury who isn't signed for forever). I'd also imagine a prospect would need to be included. Noel Franson was our 3rd round defenseman from last year who is 0.5 PPG for Allsvenskan. I think it's fair to also include a prospect but I wouldn't do Nikishin or Artamanov. I'm not sure what Nashville's organization needs are in the system.

I think we can all agree here that Trotz won't trade O'Reilly.

It's not that your offer isn't in the realm of what it might take in a vacuum/fantasy league type of scenario. But I think Trotz is really married to O'Reilly, he has made such a big deal about him, I don't believe he will ever let him go for anything short of a truly insane overpay. Unless O'Reilly asked him to. Which we don't have any real reason to think is likely to happen either.

 

[herzausstein]

I think we can all agree here that Trotz won't trade O'Reilly.

It's not that your offer isn't in the realm of what it might take in a vacuum/fantasy league type of scenario. But I think Trotz is really married to O'Reilly, he has made such a big deal about him, I don't believe he will ever let him go for anything short of a truly insane overpay. Unless O'Reilly asked him to. Which we don't have any real reason to think is likely to happen either.

Let's be honest.

None of the players from a "winning culture" will be traded unless they demand out.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Let's be honest.

None of the players from a "winning culture" will be traded unless they demand out.

I wonder if our "winning culture" includes the homegrown boys like Lauzon and Sissons, though. They weren't quite the same investment and PR as O'Reilly, but may be similarly valued here, a notch lower. I wish Sissons was having a better season. But those are guys who are usually gold at the TDL. At their peak + TDL market peak, they are each the kinds of guys who sometimes draw 1sts at the TDL. It's a lot to hope for, acknowledged. But not completely outside the realm of possibility if they were both playing at max potential/visibility. Which unfortunately Sissons at least is definitely not atm. Maybe THAT's a reason to plug him in as #1C while O'Reilly is out. Screw the kids!

 

[Scoresberg]

Canes fan here. Curious what package you think would get it done for Ryan O'Reilly.

Would there be any interest in O'Reilly for

2025 1st round pick
Jack Drury
Noel Franson

I think a 1st has to be part of the package, and it makes sense to also deal Kotkaniemi or Drury (I'd imagine you'd much prefer Drury who isn't signed for forever). I'd also imagine a prospect would need to be included. Noel Franson was our 3rd round defenseman from last year who is 0.5 PPG for Allsvenskan. I think it's fair to also include a prospect but I wouldn't do Nikishin or Artamanov. I'm not sure what Nashville's organization needs are in the system.

I echo what others have said. That package doesn't entice me into moving O'Reilly. He's very valuable for us and barring an overpayment other teams won't ultimately make, I wouldn't trade him. I believe Trotz feels the same way.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

If we move ROR it's for a young C with top 6 upside. I'd happily add to get that return, but not sure it exists.

 

[weeze]

We should've snagged Alec Regula before Edmonton

That would ruin our chance at the overall #1 pick! I think BT/AB are happy right where they are. Heck may even waive a few more young players for nothing in return.

 

[herzausstein]

Probably hold onto RoR unless someone really offers something stupid (kindof like the Jeannot trade but with RoR holding even more value). If we get a top 5 pick this season, draft a high end center prospect then when we trade RoR we can target a D or G prospect (whichever is of greater need at the time).

Start of RoRs last season we will have:
Svechkov, Surin, 2025 draft pick, Edstrom all looking to make impacts down the center at the NHL level.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

I echo what others have said. That package doesn't entice me into moving O'Reilly. He's very valuable for us and barring an overpayment other teams won't ultimately make, I wouldn't trade him. I believe Trotz feels the same way.

Yeah, that's what...a really late 1st (when we already have three), an injured 4th liner, and a defensive prospect that probably doesn't see NA ice? I'd hope we could leverage ROR into at least one piece better than any of that.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

I know Drury is having a good season. Is he projected to be a center though? I thought he was playing wing.

 

[bdub24]

Canes fan here. Curious what package you think would get it done for Ryan O'Reilly.

Would there be any interest in O'Reilly for

2025 1st round pick
Jack Drury
Noel Franson

I think a 1st has to be part of the package, and it makes sense to also deal Kotkaniemi or Drury (I'd imagine you'd much prefer Drury who isn't signed for forever). I'd also imagine a prospect would need to be included. Noel Franson was our 3rd round defenseman from last year who is 0.5 PPG for Allsvenskan. I think it's fair to also include a prospect but I wouldn't do Nikishin or Artamanov. I'm not sure what Nashville's organization needs are in the system.

Will you take a coach project too?

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

I know Drury is having a good season. Is he projected to be a center though? I thought he was playing wing.

He's got...9 points in 28 games, is 24, and is about to have surgery that will keep him out indefinitely? Is there another Drury?

 

[Scoresberg]

From 32 Thoughts: 32 Thoughts: Soft talks underway between NHL, NHLPA for next CBA

20. The Predators moved on from Dante Fabbro and Philip Tomasino, who started well in their new homes. Looks like we’re headed to that point with Juuso Parssinen, too.

 

[beardawg]

From 32 Thoughts: 32 Thoughts: Soft talks underway between NHL, NHLPA for next CBA

20. The Predators moved on from Dante Fabbro and Philip Tomasino, who started well in their new homes. Looks like we’re headed to that point with Juuso Parssinen, too.

Just sounds like speculation based on Parssinen being in and out of the lineup. Valid speculation, though

 

[Soundgarden]

Incredibly stupid but we all expected that to happen.

 

[herzausstein]

Just sounds like speculation based on Parssinen being in and out of the lineup. Valid speculation, though

He will be waived in due time.

Honestly, Svechkov has looked better than Pärssinen this season. But now we seem intent on running RoR, Stamkos, Novak, McCarron down the middle so svechkov will probably be sent back down. Pärssinen will waste away in the pressbox until Trotz decides out of the blue to waive him even though we dont need the roster space. If we are lucky, we can get another one of those sweet sweet 2027 draft picks.

 

[beardawg]

I still rather Pars over Janko on the Novak/Evangelista line, but in reality, what has Pars done this season do prove he deserves to stay in the lineup?

He has unfortunately been horribly mismanaged and being in and out of the lineup doesn't help. He has, however, has his chances to play in the middle of the ice with Fil, Marchessault and Stammer on his wings. He's had chances in the bottom 6. I think he's great in the corners and can fetch pucks well, but he's a bit of a turnover magcine. Unfortunately he's not producing either.

I'd hate to see him go on waivers. Just another casualty of poor coaching decisions. At least he was only a 7th rounder

 

[Scoresberg]

It's not even necessarily that they're waiving him but it's another failure to add to the long list of developmental failures we've had the last few years.

Pärssinen's clearly a talented, and hard-working kid who should by all means have an NHL career in front him. Instead, we have jerked him around the last two years and basically killed his development. He may blossom somewhere else (which I think he will) but he's never going to get a change to get it going here.

When they eventually do move on him, I think I'm truly going to take a step back from this team at least for this year. f*** Trotz and Bruno, seriously. During Trotz' tenure we've gone from a hopeful, potential re-tooler to the laughing stock of the league, the oldest and the worst team at the same time.

 

[Armourboy]

I still rather Pars over Janko on the Novak/Evangelista line, but in reality, what has Pars done this season do prove he deserves to stay in the lineup?

He has unfortunately been horribly mismanaged and being in and out of the lineup doesn't help. He has, however, has his chances to play in the middle of the ice with Fil, Marchessault and Stammer on his wings. He's had chances in the bottom 6. I think he's great in the corners and can fetch pucks well, but he's a bit of a turnover magcine. Unfortunately he's not producing either.

I'd hate to see him go on waivers. Just another casualty of poor coaching decisions. At least he was only a 7th rounder

Everyone on this team has been a turnover machine this season.

Claiming Parssinen has had chances is akin to throwing a driver in on lap 10 of a Formula 1 race and then saying he had a chance to win. He has been out there, but even when he is his minutes are next to nothing and he is bounced around line to line.

He's been handled exactly like Tomasino and Fabbro and those two show just how good Brunette’s chances prove to be.

 

[herzausstein]

Pärssinen's first game this season was terrible. But he was slapped in the middle of a 4th line that had performed terribly up to that time. McCarron and Smith started the season like complete crap. Pärssinen was dropped in the middle of that and didnt fix it and got punished.

Fast forward and his last game , he is dropped in with two pure rookies with about 32 games between them (svech and L'Heureux). Unbelievably, it didnt turn out well either.

His best games this season was with Tomasino (traded) and Evangelista. The novak line with Evangelista is looking dangerous at the moment so that isnt gonna be messed with. Even before that, bruno has shown that he just really wants to try and recreate whatever happened on last seasons run. He kept the ror and novak lines together even when they were sucking eggs.

Bruno also seems to love sissons McCarron and smith. Doesnt matter how they are doing. He pressboxed McCarron and i imagine it was one of those "this hurts me more than it hurts you" moments.

Pärssinen like Tomasino and Fabbro before him is an afterthought to Bruno and Trotz. We may like him but it has been clear that they are going to make minimal effort to get things to work out.

Ive just got this sinking feeling that most if the picks that were made before Trotz is gonna be wasted because they werent his guy

 

[AintLifeGrand]

It's not even necessarily that they're waiving him but it's another failure to add to the long list of developmental failures we've had the last few years.

Pärssinen's clearly a talented, and hard-working kid who should by all means have an NHL career in front him. Instead, we have jerked him around the last two years and basically killed his development. He may blossom somewhere else (which I think he will) but he's never going to get a change to get it going here.

When they eventually do move on him, I think I'm truly going to take a step back from this team at least for this year. f*** Trotz and Bruno, seriously. During Trotz' tenure we've gone from a hopeful, potential re-tooler to the laughing stock of the league, the oldest and the worst team at the same time.

Parsinnen scored at like .5 points per game as a rookie in 2022-2023… that lost year under Hynes

Brunnette 100% ruined the development of a promosing top/ middle 6 center that we desperately need

this org is such a joke… since trot/ brunnette have taken over they make the Thrashers org look like the Vegas Golden Knights in comparison