Speculation: Armchair GM Thread

Soundgarden

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I'm not terribly upset we lost out on Jiricek, but our team, and Trotz, looks a lot better if we had packaged Fabbro and Tomasino with the picks to get him. It's more than Minnesota paid and it might be an overpayment, but if Trotz said that's my guy and that's what it cost to get him then I'd feel so much better with the direction of the team.

We'd have a solid collection of young defensemen with Molendyk and Gibson as well. We know what Trotz can do with defensemen so there'd be a lot less doubt with a move like that, as for now I don't know if I can trust Trotz not to move a talented young player because Brunette can't coach guys under 25.
 

Enoch

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I feel pretty confident that almost every team in the league is looking at the Predators as a team that is easily exploited.

Waived 1st line winger/2nd line winger in Duchenne
Waived Tolvanen
Waived Fabbro
Traded Tomasino for a fourth 500000 years from now
Asked for the moon on Askarov, let him force a trade for a good not great return
Traded assets for overpaid, underperforming wingers to "use" cap space
Coach calls out players and benches veterans who could be traded (Tyson Barrie)

We look bad right now.

You can look at it another way and look at all the talent we brought in. 4 premium free agents signed here. Saros resigned. Forsberg. Josi.

Lots to love. Lots to hate.

But if I am a GM, I am low balling and underselling to Trotz. There is blood in the water.
 

101st_fan

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I feel pretty confident that almost every team in the league is looking at the Predators as a team that is easily exploited.

Waived 1st line winger/2nd line winger in Duchenne
Waived Tolvanen
Waived Fabbro
Traded Tomasino for a fourth 500000 years from now
Asked for the moon on Askarov, let him force a trade for a good not great return
Traded assets for overpaid, underperforming wingers to "use" cap space
Coach calls out players and benches veterans who could be traded (Tyson Barrie)

We look bad right now.

You can look at it another way and look at all the talent we brought in. 4 premium free agents signed here. Saros resigned. Forsberg. Josi.

Lots to love. Lots to hate.

But if I am a GM, I am low balling and underselling to Trotz. There is blood in the water.
Poile had the option to LTIR Boro but chose to waive Tolvanen.
Trotz signed Fabbro, Tomasino, Wedgewood ... then waived or traded them within just a few games.
Signing Wedgewood and Saros led to the issues with Askarov followed by his trade. Perhaps the team keeps the youngster if they don't sign Wedge and Murray.

I can't grasp what Trotz is trying to do right now. Too few of our media people have the guts to ask any real questions.
 

herzausstein

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Asset management is a real question with Trotz right now.

Are him and Bruno talking?

Bruno was pretty clear he wasnt going to use Fabbro, Tomasino, and Parssinen. So far two are gone and the other is in the pressbox. Why did we bother bringing them back to further kill any trade value?

Why do the vets get all the ice time when they are producing? Of the remaining young players Svechkov, L'Heureux, and Evangelista have been playing quite well. Heck Evangelista and svechkov hooked up to tie the game in the 1st. One of our few even strength goals. Then they both get rewarded with less then 10 mins TOI. The absolute least on the team.
 

Enoch

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Poile had the option to LTIR Boro but chose to waive Tolvanen.
Trotz signed Fabbro, Tomasino, Wedgewood ... then waived or traded them within just a few games.
Signing Wedgewood and Saros led to the issues with Askarov followed by his trade. Perhaps the team keeps the youngster if they don't sign Wedge and Murray.

I can't grasp what Trotz is trying to do right now. Too few of our media people have the guts to ask any real questions.
Agreed

I put tolvanen there simply to highlight the blood in the water idea.

Trotz has acquired a lot of assets but also squandered some. I don’t mind going for it, but I look at what’s happening right now … it’s mystifying.
 
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glenngineer

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Really wasn't sure where to put this.

Trotz and Bruno both need to go.

Bruno for his inability to play younger guys.

Trotz for the blunder that no one has discussed - he's stockpiled picks, including 2 additional 1st rounders in a weak draft. Everything I've read said there's about 7 players that are worth anything and the rest is a crapshoot at best. Great, we've got a ton of picks for a draft that probably won't produce any NHL talent. How f'in stupid is this?

And the other part is not firing Bruno already. JFC, this team can't score more than 2 goals a game at this point. Goal differential is showing us we're getting outscored by a goal a game. The coach has forced your hand on two young players that are instantly having success elsewhere. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
 

101st_fan

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Agreed

I put tolvanen there simply to highlight the blood in the water idea.

Trotz has acquired a lot of assets but also squandered some. I don’t mind going for it, but I look at what’s happening right now … it’s mystifying.
Given the lack of playing time and minimal (if any) returns the Fabbro and Tomasino signings are dumbfounding at best. It was a waste of cap space during free agency that could have gone after a player that fits Bruno's "system" ... or just sat on if it wasn't going towards active players.
 
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herzausstein

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Given the lack of playing time and minimal (if any) returns the Fabbro and Tomasino signings are dumbfounding at best. It was a waste of cap space during free agency that could have gone after a player that fits Bruno's "system" ... or just sat on if it wasn't going towards active players.
Thing that bothers me about the whole free agency thing is that we spent all our capspace on wingers when we have terrible center depth and the coach has refused to elevate Novak in the previous season. That says that Trotz planned for either Sissons to really step up his game into a 2C (not a smart bet) or Bruno to elevate Novak to 2C (also not a smart bet given how he has handled him). So starting the season with no real 2C and no capspace just seems like a bad idea. Couldve really used someone like Stephenson
 

beardawg

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Thing that bothers me about the whole free agency thing is that we spent all our capspace on wingers when we have terrible center depth and the coach has refused to elevate Novak in the previous season. That says that Trotz planned for either Sissons to really step up his game into a 2C (not a smart bet) or Bruno to elevate Novak to 2C (also not a smart bet given how he has handled him). So starting the season with no real 2C and no capspace just seems like a bad idea. Couldve really used someone like Stephenson
Stephenson over Marchessault would've made much more sense
 

Scoresberg

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Are you fng kidding me? We couldn't beat that offer from Minny??

Once again, high-IQ organizations and GM's making smart moves, while our guy sits on his hands and deals backup goalies.
 

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Thing that bothers me about the whole free agency thing is that we spent all our capspace on wingers when we have terrible center depth and the coach has refused to elevate Novak in the previous season. That says that Trotz planned for either Sissons to really step up his game into a 2C (not a smart bet) or Bruno to elevate Novak to 2C (also not a smart bet given how he has handled him). So starting the season with no real 2C and no capspace just seems like a bad idea. Couldve really used someone like Stephenson
Novak still isn't playing center, Stamkos is.
 

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