Are the Leafs a better TEAM without Matthews?

Are the Leafs a better TEAM with or without Matthews

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Gary Nylund

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The Leafs play Anaheim next. Matthews usually dominates Anaheim, so I'm sure he'll score a couple of goals in that game.
Does your absolutely abysmal track record ever make you think that maybe you should just stop making predictions?
 

Gary Nylund

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Am I wrong that Matthews scores a lot against Anaheim?
What does that have to do with anything? You might be pretty good at predicting things that have already happened, but when it comes to predicting what the Leafs will do in the future, you've been worse than useless.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy your upbeat, over the top homerism but let's be real here, your track record with predictions ... no offence, but it sucks.
 
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SHANNYPLAN

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What does that have to do with anything? You might be pretty good at predicting things that have already happened, but when it comes to predicting what the Leafs will do in the future, you've been worse than useless.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy your upbeat, over the top homerism but let's be real here, your track record with predictions ... no offence, but it sucks.
 

Evilhomer

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What does that have to do with anything? You might be pretty good at predicting things that have already happened, but when it comes to predicting what the Leafs will do in the future, you've been worse than useless.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy your upbeat, over the top homerism but let's be real here, your track record with predictions ... no offence, but it sucks.
My non-Leafs predictions have been much better than my Leafs predictions. I aim to rectify that this season.
 

Gary Nylund

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My non-Leafs predictions have been much better than my Leafs predictions. I aim to rectify that this season.
Are you planning on rectifying this by improving your Leaf related predictions or making your other predictions worse?

Seriously though, it makes sense that your non-Leaf predictions would be better because you're being objective as opposed to being a homer. Cheers!
 

thusk

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I think you misread my post - I wasn't talking about his play last night. Read this again:

"He played one of the most dominant games I've seen him play before getting hurt in the playoffs"

my bad on this one but even last year in playoff before he really get hurt, him and his line pwas not that grwat... That line been outplayed most of the time against Marchand line, they took a lot of bad penalties who cost a lot of goal. At the exact moment marchand stop playing vs matthews line, he became pretty invisible of the ice.

If you considerating penalty taken/ draw resulting of a goal + production at even strenght. This line had been the worst line.

If Matthews and its the same with Marner and Nylander playing the same way they did last year, leafs will be in trouble.
 
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sunstersun

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They're not, but it's no question there's a fck ton of bad habits surrounding this team when Matthews plays.

Part of me wonders if it's because Matthews is more limited than most superstars. He reminds of of Anthony Davis in that regard.

He's got a great shot, but he's not like Drai or Ovi, who have a signature spot.
 

Gary Nylund

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my bad on this one but even last year in playoff before he really get hurt, him and his line pwas not that grwat... That line been outplayed most of the time against Marchand line, they took a lot of bad penalties who cost a lot of goal. At the exact moment marchand stop playing vs matthews line, he became pretty invisible of the ice.

If you considerating penalty taken/ draw resulting of a goal + production at even strenght. This line had been the worst line.

If Matthews and its the same with Marner and Nylander playing the same way they did last year, leafs will be in trouble.
Overall, I agree Matthews has been a playoff disappointment. It was just that one game against Boston where I thought holy shit, this is it, this is what we've been waiting for, just an absolute beast and then ... he got hurt. I'm hoping he can reach that level again, and of course sustain it for an entire playoff run but considering his history, I wouldn't count on it so it's nothing more than a dream ATM.

I think Nylander's been just fine in the playoffs last few years but the rest of the core, just garbage. JT and Marner have been just terrible and Matthews while not as terrible as those two has still been pretty bad considering his cap hit suggests elite performance.
 

ToneDog

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Overall, I agree Matthews has been a playoff disappointment. It was just that one game against Boston where I thought holy shit, this is it, this is what we've been waiting for, just an absolute beast and then ... he got hurt. I'm hoping he can reach that level again, and of course sustain it for an entire playoff run but considering his history, I wouldn't count on it so it's nothing more than a dream ATM.

I think Nylander's been just fine in the playoffs last few years but the rest of the core, just garbage. JT and Marner have been just terrible and Matthews while not as terrible as those two has still been pretty bad considering his cap hit suggests elite performance.
Willie @ 6.9m has been OK but we need more from Willie @ 11.5m. At a PPG player, he's not close to outperforming his cap hit.
 

Gary Nylund

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Willie @ 6.9m has been OK but we need more from Willie @ 11.5m. At a PPG player, he's not close to outperforming his cap hit.
Sure, with his big raise in pay comes higher expectations. That said, I don't care too much about regular season, just hoping he kills it in the playoffs.
 
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