Value of: Anton Forsberg

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LeProspector

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UFA at seasons end, and Ottawa doesn’t need him anymore with the emergence of Leevi Meralainen. Could help shore up the backup spot for some teams and only carries a cap hit of 2.75.

What could he return at the deadline?
 
Honestly, Forsberg (39th in GSAx) would be a clear improvement over Stuart Skinner (73rd in GSAx) for only $150,000 more. Forsberg is right behind Lankinen in GSAx, albeit with almost half the games played...but Skinner was even lower than he is now with about the same number of games played so let's not go there.

I would still prefer Gibson or Binnington, but Anton Forsberg is a clear upgrade on today's version of Stuart Skinner.
 
LA might be interested. Rittich has really struggled. Kings could use an insurance goalie if he's cheap.
 
Sens won't trade Forsberg unless they can use the freed-up cap space to acquire someone who can help up front, and they won't give up major assets to do so.

In other words, I doubt Forsberg is moved but if he is, it will be in the context of another deal. I also wouldnt be surprised to see them target a goalie in return and leave Merilainen in the A, where he is most needed.
 
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Honestly, Forsberg (39th in GSAx) would be a clear improvement over Stuart Skinner (73rd in GSAx) for only $150,000 more. Forsberg is right behind Lankinen in GSAx, albeit with almost half the games played...but Skinner was even lower than he is now with about the same number of games played so let's not go there.

I would still prefer Gibson or Binnington, but Anton Forsberg is a clear upgrade on today's version of Stuart Skinner.

That's not a very high bar. These Oiler goalies have been playing a spot above their heads their entire time in Edmonton. Pickard isn't a bad #3 depth option and Skinner wasn't supposed to even be more than the teams backup. Campbell implodes and this club just never changed course, even with ample opportunities. They threw Campbell on the trash heap, deservingly. Promoted a not ready Skinner, while never developing the weaknesses in his game. Then went to the bargain bin with Pickard to save on the cap. If Pickard wasn't cheap he wouldn't be here. His best attribute is his cap hit.

Many solid goalies have been moved since we started rolling with this porous tandem. I'm not convinced that Bowman is even looking to add a goalie to replace Skinner. I truly believe they will look at some Pickard like depth piece. Mindnumbling frustrating, but this is my expectation. Yes, Bowman would probably target a waiver claim goalie before trading for anyone. For me with need a Saros, Binnington, Gibson or don't bother. I'm probably being too critical of Forsberg in flat out saying he sucks. but I don't think he's worth his cap hit and I'd rather not use what little space we have on him as I don't see him as a solution. Can't get a better goalie, improve the D core then.

I don't know many knowledge Oiler fans that don't question how Dustin Schwartz is still employed with the team. I'd want a well established starter that will stand up against him if they feel they need too (crosses fingers), like Mike Smith did. I doubt a journeyman backup, who's a pending UFA would have that kind of pull walking into the room as a deadline addition. On the flip side I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if Binnington or Gibson did it. Proven veterans with term. Different situation.
 
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That's not a very high bar. These Oiler goalies have been playing a spot above their heads their entire time in Edmonton. Pickard isn't a bad #3 depth option and Skinner wasn't supposed to even be more than the teams backup. Campbell implodes and this club just never changed course, even with ample opportunities. They threw Campbell on the trash heap, deservingly. Promoted a not ready Skinner, while never developing the weaknesses in his game. Then went to the bargain bin with Pickard to save on the cap. If Pickard wasn't cheap he wouldn't be here. His best attribute is his cap hit low.

Many solid goalies have been moved since we started rolling with this porous tandem. I'm not convinced that Bowman is even looking to add a goalie to replace Skinner. I truly believe they will look at some Pickard like depth piece. Mindnumbling frustrating, but this is my expectation. Yes, Bowman would probably target a waiver claim goalie before trading for anyone. For me with need a Saros, Binnington, Gibson or don't bother. I'm probably being too critical of Forsberg in flat out saying he sucks. but I don't think he's worth his cap hit and I'd rather not use what little space we have on him as I don't see him as a solution. Can't get a better goalie, improve the D core then.

I don't know many knowledge Oiler fans that don't question how Dustin Schwartz is still employed with the team. I'd want a well established starter that will stand up against him if they feel they need too (crosses fingers), like Mike Smith did. I doubt a journeyman backup, who's a pending UFA would have that kind of pull walking into the room as a deadline addition. On the flip side I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if Binnington or Gibson did it. Proven veterans with term. Different situation.

Sadly, Kevin Lankinen makes less than Pickard. Instead of trusting Pickard's stats behind a strong defensive system, the team should've made a play for Lankinen and sent Pickard back to where we found him.

Forsberg is worth more than Skinner. If we lose Skinner and get Forsberg, that is a clear improvement. Tristan Jarry is the other major Dustin Schwartz student left in the league (with Carter Hart being cancelled indefinitely) and...oh wait, Jarry isn't in the league anymore either. After being considered for Team Canada only months ago, he's now in the AHL... Well, shit...how do you think that bodes for Stu, especially with how he's played almost all season? At least Forsberg can hold down an NHL job on another team. I'm certain that Skinner is in the AHL within days of playing for any other team in this league. Skinner isn't only poorly coached, his lateral movement alone also boots him out of this league.

Would Schwartz ruin Forsberg? Of course. But he won't have enough time after the trade deadline to totally succeed.

And let me reiterate, I too want Gibson or Binnington. Saros is washed though. His GSAx is atrocious and he makes more than Skinner. I'll pass on that one.
 
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Sadly, Kevin Lankinen makes less than Pickard. Instead of trusting Pickard's stats behind a strong defensive system, the team should've made a play for Lankinen and sent Pickard back to where we found him.

Forsberg is worth more than Skinner. If we lose Skinner and get Forsberg, that is a clear improvement. Tristan Jarry is the other major Dustin Schwartz student left in the league (with Carter Hart being cancelled indefinitely) and...oh wait, Jarry isn't in the league anymore either. After being considered for Team Canada only months ago, he's now in the AHL... Well, shit...how do you think that bodes for Stu, especially with how he's played almost all season? At least Forsberg can hold down an NHL job on another team. I'm certain that Skinner is in the AHL within days of playing for any other team in this league. Skinner isn't only poorly coached, his lateral movement alone also boots him out of this league.

Would Schwartz ruin Forsberg? Of course. But he won't have enough time after the trade deadline to totally succeed.

And let me reiterate, I too want Gibson or Binnington. Saros is washed though. His GSAx is atrocious and he makes more than Skinner. I'll pass on that one.

That's more than fair point that I didn't truly consider.

Edit: I know Saros looks terrible this year. This season, with that club, I'm showing some leniency in assessing him and judging his numbers. Could I be wrong on that, absolutely. My issue with him is his contract. I wouldn't take him without 50% retention. He's also easily behind the other 2 on the list. If I was to look over team rosters and guess who might be available he might not be 3rd on my list either. I would take him moving forward over Skinner without question though.
 
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Ottawa is better off keeping him as thier own insurance rental. I would be in favor of a deal if Ottawa can bring back scoring depth in that trade, maybe part of a three way deal.
 
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