Confirmed with Link: Andlauer reaches deal for Ottawa Senators ownership

[Xspyrit]

Of course it’s not going to be popular, you’re proposing that we trade by far the best player in the deal for a top 6 guy and a bottom 6 guy.

That’s that Dorion level return that you like to go on about.

I mean the few ES points less than Stu is on par with almost as many assists as Stone!

I think you're only looking at this only from an emotional attachement standpoint.

I mean we loved Alfie, he left. We loved Hossa and Spezza? They got traded. Same with Karlsson, Stone, Zibanejad, Pageau... Look at his brother, left the Flames at 25 y/o, same age as Brady. I wouldn't fault him, particularly if the team keeps spinning its wheels like they have in the last 4 seasons. You have to accept this possibility if we're missing the playoffs once again.

Lafrenière just turned 23 y/o, at that age Brady only had one 30 goals + 60+ pts season at 22 y/o. At 22 y/o, Lafrenière had 28 goals and 57 pts last season and it's well documented that he doesn't get much PP time... Despite being 2 years younger, he's already better defensively. Like I said, Brady has only ONE more point at ES than Laf since 2023-24 in 109 games... so you understand that the only thing separating them is PP production?

Lafrenière is 2 years younger and has a lot of untapped potential still, he's not just a "top 6 guy", he was a 1st OA pick for a reason. He looked dominant in last year's playoffs.

Kakko is still just 23 y/o. His production has been very inconsistent but he had that 40 pts season at 21 y/o (37 pts at ES) and has 14 pts in 27 GP this season. He plays "the right way" and is already a pretty good 2-way forward. Who knows what steps he could take in a different environment with different players?

The thing is with all the trades that blew up in our face and all the bad picks, we don't even have a prospect pool left (it is weaker than contending teams, if that's even possible, I have never seen that). We don't have depth and have NOTHING coming up at forward. Our most likely NHLer forward is Cole Reinhardt. If Tkachuk wants to leave, we have to get a pretty good young player and improve our depth.

Lafrenière - Stutzle - Gaudette
Giroux - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Kakko
Cousins/Perron - Ostapchuk - Gregor

Amadio for trade

Ideally, we'd have Brady forever and the team would win but is it happening right now? It's possible that he wants out. You never get a better player in that kind of situation but who knows? Lafreniere could be just as good

 

[Tuna99]

I know it's not going to be popular but if the Rangers pay Lafreniere + Kakko for Brady, I'd drive him to NY in my sports car

Might not be the best idea with all his hockey gear. Take the pickup

 

[Xspyrit]

Might not be the best idea with all his hockey gear. Take the pickup

You're right, it might smell too lol

I said that as if I am in a hurry to run him out of town, but IF he wants out and we could get a return that could help us build a better team, not the worst thing in the end.

 

[BankStreetParade]

My big concern with Brady going forward is two-fold:

1. He plays hard, physical hockey and, although he is very strong and durable, guys like that tend to fall off hard when they get to 30. There's almost no examples of power forwards who age gracefully past 30 and his next deal will start when he's 29.
2. His NMC kicks in on July 1st and that's a very difficult hurdle if we decide to shake things up. It gives him all the power and as much as fans love Brady, our true allegiance should be to the logo on the jersey. This team needs to have as much leeway to improve itself as possible and the guy who could command a huge haul in a trade can't be dictating where he can and can't go. It might be that we simply can't allow ourselves to be handcuffed by one of the most valuable trade assets we have. Can you imagine what a disaster it would be if we get past July 1st and he all of a sudden demands a trade to 1 or 2 teams? It could literally set us back years. We need to have all the power in any potential trade negotiations involving him.

It honestly sucks that we're here but it could be one of those trades that changes the makeup of the team for the better. We could get a high-quality forward and defenseman plus some draft capital and/or quality prospect(s).

 

[PlayOn]

My big concern with Brady going forward is two-fold:

1. He plays hard, physical hockey and, although he is very strong and durable, guys like that tend to fall off hard when they get to 30. There's almost no examples of power forwards who age gracefully past 30 and his next deal will start when he's 29.
2. His NMC kicks in on July 1st and that's a very difficult hurdle if we decide to shake things up. It gives him all the power and as much as fans love Brady, our true allegiance should be to the logo on the jersey. This team needs to have as much leeway to improve itself as possible and the guy who could command a huge haul in a trade can't be dictating where he can and can't go. It might be that we simply can't allow ourselves to be handcuffed by one of the most valuable trade assets we have. Can you imagine what a disaster it would be if we get past July 1st and he all of a sudden demands a trade to 1 or 2 teams? It could literally set us back years. We need to have all the power in any potential trade negotiations involving him.

It honestly sucks that we're here but it could be one of those trades that changes the makeup of the team for the better. We could get a high-quality forward and defenseman plus some draft capital and/or quality prospect(s).

Maybe I’m naive, but I would expect the team to have a pulse on Brady’s thoughts and whether a trade request is going to happen. I still think the risk would be there for the following year, but I don’t know how likely it is for Brady to say he’s on board after the season and then turn around on July 1st and say nevermind, trade me.

It’s a business and all but I think it’d be more likely for both sides to quietly work together on finding him a good destination before July 1st if he’s unhappy than for him to suddenly flip a switch.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Melnyk would have filed a lawsuit.

 

[Alex1234]

He's not going to NYR now that Andlauer has a beef with them

 

[BankStreetParade]

Maybe I’m naive, but I would expect the team to have a pulse on Brady’s thoughts and whether a trade request is going to happen. I still think the risk would be there for the following year, but I don’t know how likely it is for Brady to say he’s on board after the season and then turn around on July 1st and say nevermind, trade me.

It’s a business and all but I think it’d be more likely for both sides to quietly work together on finding him a good destination before July 1st if he’s unhappy than for him to suddenly flip a switch.

It doesn't have to be this July, it could just as easily be any time after his NMC kicks in. What if they have another slow start next year and come December he puts in a trade request?

 

[Mingus Dew]

Maybe I’m naive, but I would expect the team to have a pulse on Brady’s thoughts and whether a trade request is going to happen. I still think the risk would be there for the following year, but I don’t know how likely it is for Brady to say he’s on board after the season and then turn around on July 1st and say nevermind, trade me.

It’s a business and all but I think it’d be more likely for both sides to quietly work together on finding him a good destination before July 1st if he’s unhappy than for him to suddenly flip a switch.

Remember DeBrincat?

Assume nothing.

 

[PlayOn]

It doesn't have to be this July, it could just as easily be any time after his NMC kicks in. What if they have another slow start next year and come December he puts in a trade request?

I think it’s down to Staios and Andlauer to measure the risk. They could also trade him and the return could fail to work out.

There’s risk involved in anything, but they have a better pulse on Brady’s thoughts than we do. They can ask him those questions and then make an educated decision.

Remember DeBrincat?

Assume nothing.

That was just mismanagement. I don’t think Dorion assumed DeBrincat would re-sign so much as I think he didn’t care. He was trying to fix the team at any cost.

I’m not suggesting Staios does that. He should have all the conversations he needs to have, but no matter what there will always be risk that Brady has a change of heart. It’s on them to weigh out the likelihood of that happening. Dorion didn’t speak to DeBrincat bc he knew what the outcome would be.

 

[coladin]

What if Melnyk said this? People would be all over him on how he is embarrassing.

Personally, I found this embarrassing. It's New York. It's Larry Brooks. Why dignify it with a response? It's a rumour and now he is going all forensics with the "soft tampering" angle?

Better if he keeps quiet

 

[PlayOn]

What if Melnyk said this? People would be all over him on how he is embarrassing.

Personally, I found this embarrassing. It's New York. It's Larry Brooks. Why dignify it with a response? It's a rumour and now he is going all forensics with the "soft tampering" angle?

Better if he keeps quiet

Until proven otherwise, I trust that Andlauer’s tactics are more strategic than Melnyk’s. He hasn’t proven himself to be irrational so whatever his goal is I trust he has one.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

What if Melnyk said this? People would be all over him on how he is embarrassing.

Personally, I found this embarrassing. It's New York. It's Larry Brooks. Why dignify it with a response? It's a rumour and now he is going all forensics with the "soft tampering" angle?

Better if he keeps quiet

At some point you'd get fed up. This is the 3rd or 4th separate occasion where Brady rumors have come up. He's trying to douse the fire. I don't mind it as long as he stays behind the scenes more often than not.

I'm sure if you've heard rumors of your company that you work for had plans on multiple occasions to ship you out either via layoff or transfer you'd feel a bit insecure.

 

[LiseL]

Maybe I’m naive, but I would expect the team to have a pulse on Brady’s thoughts and whether a trade request is going to happen. I still think the risk would be there for the following year, but I don’t know how likely it is for Brady to say he’s on board after the season and then turn around on July 1st and say nevermind, trade me.

It’s a business and all but I think it’d be more likely for both sides to quietly work together on finding him a good destination before July 1st if he’s unhappy than for him to suddenly flip a switch.

I think he might take a page from his brother's book. Before the start of the last year of his contract, if the Sens are still a bottom feeder, he tells them he won't be re-signing with the team once he's UFA. I don't think it'll happen this summer, I see him honoring his contract they way his brother did. If I remember correctly, Papa Keith only asked to be traded out of Wpg when they stripped him of the C, something I don't see happening here.

 

[Blotto71]

What if Melnyk said this? People would be all over him on how he is embarrassing.

Personally, I found this embarrassing. It's New York. It's Larry Brooks. Why dignify it with a response? It's a rumour and now he is going all forensics with the "soft tampering" angle?

Better if he keeps quiet

I think this is all a part of a 3D chess game with Bettman - talk about being a good citizen then start pointing out issues with other teams, end with the 1st rounder back (or some reduction of sentence).

 

[PlayOn]

I think he might take a page from his brother's book. Before the start of the last year of his contract, if the Sens are still a bottom feeder, he tells them he won't be re-signing with the team once he's UFA. I don't think it'll happen this summer, I see him honoring his contract they way his brother did. If I remember correctly, Papa Keith only asked to be traded out of Wpg when they stripped him of the C, something I don't see happening here.

Yeah I could see that. Honestly if that’s the case it gives them two more years after this anyway. If they can’t stop being a bottom feeder by then it probably requires a significant retool so personally I wouldn’t be too worried about that scenario.

 

[Qward]

I think this is all a part of a 3D chess game with Bettman - talk about being a good citizen then start pointing out issues with other teams, end with the 1st rounder back (or some reduction of sentence).

This

 

[darude]

Remember DeBrincat?

Assume nothing.

Hard for the team to have a pulse when the dude in question barely did.

 

[darude]

At some point you'd get fed up. This is the 3rd or 4th separate occasion where Brady rumors have come up. He's trying to douse the fire. I don't mind it as long as he stays behind the scenes more often than not.

I'm sure if you've heard rumors of your company that you work for had plans on multiple occasions to ship you out either via layoff or transfer you'd feel a bit insecure.

Also, let's not forget this guy bought the team and like a week later got screwed hard by the league. I imagine he generally has a chip on his shoulder, so seeing this shit float out there *AGAIN* about Brady, yeah I get it.

 

[archangel2]

Without starting too big of an argument, I think the owner still has not grasped certain areas of the game on and off. Last week he was complaining about the 1st round pick fine for that "trade" saying it happened before he owned the team and he should not be penalized. This week it is tampering through the press. Here is the thing. Press are there to to fill space and create discussions. The previous owner of the sens did use one of the local media guy to float rumour. All teams do it and other times the media person is just tossing names out there to start a conversation if said player could help the team. Owners can not pick and chose what the media wants to talk about.

Sens owner is in his learning curb as an NHL owner

 

[Qward]

Without starting too big of an argument, I think the owner still has not grasped certain areas of the game on and off. Last week he was complaining about the 1st round pick fine for that "trade" saying it happened before he owned the team and he should not be penalized. This week it is tampering through the press. Here is the thing. Press are there to to fill space and create discussions. The previous owner of the sens did use one of the local media guy to float rumour. All teams do it and other times the media person is just tossing names out there to start a conversation if said player could help the team. Owners can not pick and chose what the media wants to talk about.

Sens owner is in his learning curb as an NHL owner

You do know he owned part of the Habs before buying the Sens, right?

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Without starting too big of an argument, I think the owner still has not grasped certain areas of the game on and off. Last week he was complaining about the 1st round pick fine for that "trade" saying it happened before he owned the team and he should not be penalized. This week it is tampering through the press. Here is the thing. Press are there to to fill space and create discussions. The previous owner of the sens did use one of the local media guy to float rumour. All teams do it and other times the media person is just tossing names out there to start a conversation if said player could help the team. Owners can not pick and chose what the media wants to talk about.

Sens owner is in his learning curb as an NHL owner

Nah, Andlaur is a smart guy. He knows Ottawa is a small market and he needs to be present and vocal so the league doesn't walk all over the team. Big market destination teams like the Rangers will try to use their advantages where they can (one of the few franchises that can get away with treating their captain like how they treated Trouba). Andlaur has to show that while Ottawa is small, they're not going to be pushed around.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

What if Melnyk said this? People would be all over him on how he is embarrassing.

Personally, I found this embarrassing. It's New York. It's Larry Brooks. Why dignify it with a response? It's a rumour and now he is going all forensics with the "soft tampering" angle?

Better if he keeps quiet

Melnyk's Kenny Powers take no prisoners mentality was popular with the fanbase prior to Alfie-gate. Whether it was popular with those inside the organization is a different story. He was seen as a passionate super-fan owner who saved this team from moving to Kansas City (whether that was true or not).

It's when the wheels started falling off that his behaviour wore thin with fans. Because instead of it just being a fun, super fan owner, making IRL message board posts at people, it became a symptom of an under-funded owner holding their local team hostage.

Andlauer has spent to the cap, we still don't have warm water in the bathrooms but he seems okay so far, so he is going to get the benefit of the doubt. He's basically where Melnyk was 5-10 years before Alfie-gate.

 

[Masked]

My big concern with Brady going forward is two-fold:

1. He plays hard, physical hockey and, although he is very strong and durable, guys like that tend to fall off hard when they get to 30. There's almost no examples of power forwards who age gracefully past 30 and his next deal will start when he's 29.

If only we could find a relevant example like Keith Tkachuk Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

 

[Tuna99]

He's not going to NYR now that Andlauer has a beef with them

Remember the owner of the Rangers fired his G.M. For hiding behind the league and when he fired Gorton he said he wants players on the ice that stand up for themselves and don’t hide behind their coaches and managers for help - and the #1 player in the NHL for this is Brady, so the desire by the owner to get him would be obvious

the most important thing Brooks said was that he’s already heard rumblings the Sens won’t be able to keep Tkachuk, not that Tkachuk wants out.

So what Brooks is saying is he feels the Sens will have to make a decision on move him or lose him, to Brooks it’s a matter of when not if. Rangers want it this year obviously.