Confirmed with Link: [ANA/NYR] Jacob Trouba for Urho Vaakanainen and 2025 4th round pick

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Seems like Pat is really high on him/respects him as a leader.

Kind of makes me wonder if he wants to get his opinion on Cronin/the room
 
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Decent debut. But I'm not going to fawn over a performance against a team that is only 2 spots in the standings ahead of us.

Want to see what he plays like against faster, and frankly better teams.
 

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Decent debut. But I'm not going to fawn over a performance against a team that is only 2 spots in the standings ahead of us.

Want to see what he plays like against faster, and frankly better teams.

Agreed. But it's nice to see competent play regardless. The way he was described versus what he actually did is pretty stark. As someone else stated, if he can provide solid, 2nd pair minutes, then it's an absolute steal for the Ducks. His type of play and leadership should really help some younger guys.
 

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Obviously he's not the same player he was when he was younger, but watching him yesterday made me think he could be basically the equivalent of a prime Josh Manson, which would be something this team desperately needs, even if he's slightly overpaid. Depending on his health, wouldn't at all be against signing him to an extension if he's willing to stay and the price is reasonable.
 

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Decent debut. But I'm not going to fawn over a performance against a team that is only 2 spots in the standings ahead of us.

Want to see what he plays like against faster, and frankly better teams.
I would not put to much stock into it, although I do hope I am wrong.

New coach syndrome or new environment syndrome are a real thing, and very few players are, at his age, capable of becoming better versions of themselves. In overwhelming number of cases, it's not even close, players are who they are at this point in their careers.
 

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I would not put to much stock into it, although I do hope I am wrong.

New coach syndrome or new environment syndrome are a real thing, and very few players are, at his age, capable of becoming better versions of themselves. In overwhelming number of cases, it's not even close, players are who they are at this point in their careers.
Trouba is 30 years old man. He’s not some washed up player. He mentally had probably been checked out for some time now with the rangers. Also, last year he had an ankle injury thag rangers fans said clearly affected him in the playoffs
 
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"Insiders" already saying they think Trouba will be flipped (with retention) this season to a team back East. I dont see that happening. I mean, I get his wife and kid stayed back in NY so she could finish her residency, so if they moved him to BUF, NJD, NYI, BOS, PHI, I guess it could make sense, but he already turned down CBJ which is closer to NY than a lot of teams.

I fully expect him to play out this season in Anaheim and back back for next year. Maybe he gets traded next year if we decide to not resign him, but I have to assume that part of him accepting a trade here was contingent on not sending him somewhere else. He seems to appreciate stability for he and his family, and likely already has or is building plans for his wife and kid to join him in SoCal as soon as her residency is done.

I know, a lot of speculation on my part, but thats just what seems to make sense.
 

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Trouba is 30 years old man. He’s not some washed up player. He mentally had probably been checked out for some time now with the rangers. Also, last year he had an ankle injury thag rangers fans said clearly affected him in the playoffs
At 30 years old professional athletes are who they are. If they also started declining, there's no going back in vast majority of cases. Hockey is not exemption to this, although, from my observation, it does seem an exemption to the amount of hopeful recclamation projects there are.
 

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"Insiders" already saying they think Trouba will be flipped (with retention) this season to a team back East. I dont see that happening. I mean, I get his wife and kid stayed back in NY so she could finish her residency, so if they moved him to BUF, NJD, NYI, BOS, PHI, I guess it could make sense, but he already turned down CBJ which is closer to NY than a lot of teams.

I fully expect him to play out this season in Anaheim and back back for next year. Maybe he gets traded next year if we decide to not resign him, but I have to assume that part of him accepting a trade here was contingent on not sending him somewhere else. He seems to appreciate stability for he and his family, and likely already has or is building plans for his wife and kid to join him in SoCal as soon as her residency is done.

I know, a lot of speculation on my part, but thats just what seems to make sense.
These are literally the same insiders who were discussing how badly Zegras was struggling, not having fun, and clearly needed a change of scenery whilst he was in the middle of his hot streak.

Trouba still has his NTC. It’s up to him.
 

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These are literally the same insiders who were discussing how badly Zegras was struggling, not having fun, and clearly needed a change of scenery whilst he was in the middle of his hot streak.

Trouba still has his NTC. It’s up to him.
I'm not sure if trade clause necessarily transfers after the player has been traded. I think it depends on weather Trouba waived to allow the trade to Anaheim, and if he did, Anaheim can decide to either honor the clause or not. I'm not a 100% on this but we may not know weather the clause is still in place.
 

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I'm not sure if trade clause necessarily transfers after the player has been traded. I think it depends on weather Trouba waived to allow the trade to Anaheim, and if he did, Anaheim can decide to either honor the clause or not. I'm not a 100% on this but we may not know weather the clause is still in place.
I believe the clause transfers with the player even if he waves. The wave is considered to only be a one time exception made by the player. I think I read that somewhere.
 

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I'm not sure if trade clause necessarily transfers after the player has been traded. I think it depends on weather Trouba waived to allow the trade to Anaheim, and if he did, Anaheim can decide to either honor the clause or not. I'm not a 100% on this but we may not know weather the clause is still in place.

I was remembering something similar but that might have been pre-CBA
 
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I'm not sure if trade clause necessarily transfers after the player has been traded. I think it depends on weather Trouba waived to allow the trade to Anaheim, and if he did, Anaheim can decide to either honor the clause or not. I'm not a 100% on this but we may not know weather the clause is still in place.
It used to be once it was waived it was waived, but a couple years ago it was changed to where it’s only waived for that one trade, then goes back into effect.

I believe that if a player is traded before the NTC/NMC goes into effect that the new team does NOT have to honor it, but I’m too Getzlaf to look up and confirm it.
 
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