Allvin, Nill, Zito finalists for General Manager of the Year Award (winner: Jim Nill)

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TruePowerSlave

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The GM of the year rarely makes much sense.

You need to basically get to the conference finals to at least to have a shot, even then some of the nominees don´t even need to make moves that were all that impressive.

A rebuilding GM could set up his organization for future glory in one season, make a bunch of great moves and be a complete afterthought for this award.

Do they even spend time to properly assess the work of all GM´s? Probably not.
 

HockeyWooot

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Zito has been due for a while.

The number of impact players acquires outside of draft is impressive.

Tkachuk
Bennett
Bobrovsky
Reinhart
Verhaeghe
Forsling (waivers lmaoo)
Montour
 
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ElGuapo

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It was a blowout.

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Sergei Shirokov

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Did Nill really do anything spectacular this year to make him a back to back winner? He did get his flowers last year.

As a Canucks fan I think it should've been Zito. He's made many great moves to get that team to back to back finals.

I'd have the order the other way:

1. Zito
2. Allvin
3. Nill
 

StreetHawk

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Did Nill really do anything spectacular this year to make him a back to back winner? He did get his flowers last year.

As a Canucks fan I think it should've been Zito. He's made many great moves to get that team to back to back finals.

I'd have the order the other way:

1. Zito
2. Allvin
3. Nill

That was the Panthers roster for 19/20 and Zito was hired Sept 2020.

Barkov, Ekblad, Bob are the only ones left. Even if you go back to 2023 finals, it's still those 3 guys.

3 Key pieces teams want. #1 C, big minute Dman, #1 G. And he built the rest of the roster.
 

Dr Pepper

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Did Nill really do anything spectacular this year to make him a back to back winner? He did get his flowers last year.

As a Canucks fan I think it should've been Zito. He's made many great moves to get that team to back to back finals.

I'd have the order the other way:

1. Zito
2. Allvin
3. Nill

Blame the other 29 GMs, I guess, for making those three the most valuable. :dunno:
 

Rowlet

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It was a blowout.

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Uhhh, that's not a blowout. Nill is deserving but he didn't even get the majority of first place votes.

George McPhee was a blowout, he had 149 points, 25 of the first place votes.
 
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Raistlin

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Holland and Briere voted for themselves. Cheveldayoff deserves more recognition for having to sell the Peg to players. Its

1.Zito
2.Allvin
3.Nill
4.Sweeney
5.Cheveldayoff

for me.
 

Dr Pepper

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GM of the year is the only award voted on during the playoffs, with the first two rounds considered. The Stars reached the Western Conference final for a second consecutive season before losing to the Edmonton Oilers in six games.

Well that explains why Zito didn't more votes, I suppose........Dallas definitely had the tougher road through the first two rounds, plus their regular season was pretty solid thanks in no small part to moves made by Nill.
 

Kranix

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Amazing accomplishment by Allvin to be nominated when he's not even managing a team
 

ElGuapo

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Uhhh, that's not a blowout. Nill is deserving but he didn't even get the majority of first place votes.

George McPhee was a blowout, he had 149 points, 25 of the first place votes.
Sure looks like a blowout to me, holmes. Almost double the points of anyone else.
 

Rowlet

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Sure looks like a blowout to me, holmes. Almost double the points of anyone else.

Sorry, homeskillet, but "almost double" is a pretty bad indicator for a blowout, especially when he got less than double the points of 3 other GMs, in addition to not getting a majority of the votes.
 

ElGuapo

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Sorry, homeskillet, but "almost double" is a pretty bad indicator for a blowout, especially when he got less than double the points of 3 other GMs, in addition to not getting a majority of the votes.
You have some odd standards for a blowout. He got a shit ton more than anyone else.
 

zar

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Amazing how all the GMs of no state income tax teams are the leagues best GMs.

What a f***ing joke the NHL is. It’s so bush.
 
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Rowlet

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You have some odd standards for a blowout. He got a shit ton more than anyone else.

It's not that odd, just have at least more 1st place votes than everyone else combined (aka 50%+1), or actually double the points of the 2nd place.

Your standards are actually a lot stranger, if all you require is "nearly doubling" the points of other nominees.

Nill got 17/42 of the votes, about 40%, while McPhee on the other hand got 25 out of 39, about 65% of the votes.
 

ElGuapo

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It's not that odd, just have at least more 1st place votes than everyone else combined (aka 50%+1), or actually double the points of the 2nd place.

Your standards are actually a lot stranger, if all you require is "nearly doubling" the points of other nominees.

Nill got 17/42 of the votes, about 40%, while McPhee on the other hand got 25 out of 39, about 65% of the votes.

You're picking really specific things to you. I look at it and say, "damn, that wasn't close." which is what a blowout is. I don't think one can reasonably argue that it was a close vote.
 

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