All Purpose Trade / Roster Building Thread pt 6 - let the waiting game commence

[My Special Purpose]

This is the part that I think has been lost:

1) Carolina uses cap space to acquire a 1st with Marleau.
2) The cap number is released, lower than expected.
3) Carolina dumps de Haan's contract for little return.

It does make sense that they see an opportunity to capitalize again on another team with cap trouble, but needed space to do so.

Of course, last year we all thought there was an opportunity to utilize the D depth to acquire a forward, especially after signing de Haan , and that didn't happen. So we will see if they can complete the process this off-season after they failed to last off-season.

Maybe that's the case. But I still think we did the Marleau trade because we knew we had a landing spot for one of our d-men. I think the order in which the trades were made makes it look like de Haan was a reaction to the cap being lower, but if they had happened in the reverse order, it would be clear that de Haan moving was what made it OK for us to take on Marleau and get the first-rounder out of Toronto.

 

[FreshSeabass]

So are they scrapping the plan to get this chase priskie kid. It sounded like they essentially had a deal on place but we're waiting for faulk to move.

 

[Chrispy]

So are they scrapping the plan to get this chase priskie kid. It sounded like they essentially had a deal on place but we're waiting for faulk to move.

Sounds like they are still pursuing Priskie, not scrapping the plan:

 

[spockBokk]

Sounds like they are still pursuing Priskie, not scrapping the plan:

One of the facets to acquiring Priskie and actually signing him was, accordion to Sara Civ, that there’d be a spot for him. They still have the right side pretty crowded, even if the intention is to move Pesce over to LD.

I’m skeptical about then dealing Faulk now, but I was also of the mind theyd keep de Haan so what do I know. If they move Faulk for anything other than another top 4 D, they’re down to 3 proven top 4 guys, an injured 3rd pair guy and the hope than one of Fleury/Bean/Forsling/Priskie(?)is ready for 2nd pair duty with the other 2 fighting it out for 3rd pair duty. That’s a whole lot of ifs after the D was so strong last year.

 

[Svechhammer]

Hey look, Oilers beat writers are trying to stir shit up about the Aho contract talks.

 

[Wolfpuck]

Hey look, Oilers beat writers are trying to stir **** up about the Aho contract talks.

I really need to stop going to the trade board.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

If we get Priskie, is Priskie and Toronto’s 1st worth not being to afford, supposedly, CdH, Saarela, and taking on Marleau?

I don’t see this is as a net positive for us especially with it being a 17-31 pick. In reality it’s more like 22-31 pick.

 

[Penaltykiller17]

The optics of this trade doesn't look good, but I don't think it's necessarily bad after sleeping on it.

While CDH was a solid player, and class act that I commend for wanting to play here, this team won big games down the stretch to solidify a playoff spot, and beat the defending champions without him. With Pesce apparently playing his offside, this doesn't affect our top 4 really, even though it's not ideal. And he's going to a big market, and a team that'll probably be in contention again next year, so I don't think he'll be heartbroken about going to Chicago.

I never think this about a trade, but I feel like this trade is setting up for another trade. I could see us doing another trade with Toronto centered around Nylander and Zaitsev. And/or maybe not one of the bigger UFA's, but someone else is coming here.

Whatever

 

[Svechhammer]

The optics of this trade doesn't look good, but I don't think it's necessarily bad after sleeping on it.

While CDH was a solid player, and class act that I commend for wanting to play here, this team won big games down the stretch to solidify a playoff spot, and beat the defending champions without him. With Pesce apparently playing his offside, this doesn't affect our top 4 really, even though it's not ideal. And he's going to a big market, and a team that'll probably be in contention again next year, so I don't think he'll be heartbroken about going to Chicago.

I never think this about a trade, but I feel like this trade is setting up for another trade. I could see us doing another trade with Toronto centered around Nylander and Zaitsev. And/or maybe not one of the bigger UFA's, but someone else is coming here.

Whatever

I think we need to stop with the mindset that we need guys to play their 'hand' position on the wings or forwards. Brindy pretty much showed what our coaches and management think about this during his interview with Canes Country...

The whole right-left thing, I don’t know where that got — well, I know where it started, a few years ago it was a big deal — in the NHL you should be able to play either side, and the good players can. He can, so will he play there again? Probably.

 

[Penaltykiller17]

I don't want to get into a whole debate about it. The person who should have the ultimate say-so on the issue is Pesce. If he's fine with it, cool. I don't know how sustainable it is though.

I think if anything, this opens the door for Bean/Fleury to finally have their chance.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

wonder if there is any chance the Canes are targeting Lee 1) to replace/ upgrade the offense lost from Ferland and 2) to replace that veteran presence if Williams leaves

 

[FreshSeabass]

With all this space we have even with Marleau and after Aho signs they have to have a forward VIA trade coming in and are either targeting a high tier FA(Duchene) or two middle tier FA's(Dzingel, Nyquist, Zuccarello)

 

[GoldiFox]

wonder if there is any chance the Canes are targeting Lee 1) to replace/ upgrade the offense lost from Ferland and 2) to replace that veteran presence if Williams leaves

Lee can call up his long-time teammate CDH and ask him how he liked signing here

 

[AD Skinner]

wonder if there is any chance the Canes are targeting Lee 1) to replace/ upgrade the offense lost from Ferland and 2) to replace that veteran presence if Williams leaves

I hope not. The last time we had a run to the ECF only to be swept and then got rid of a good but not stellar defenseman while taking on players from a team we knocked out of the playoffs during that run... well we all saw what happened

 

[GoldiFox]

Deadline for RFA Qualifying Offers is today (at 5PM I believe)

Aho, Maenalanen, McGinn, Forsling, Flery, Nedeljkovic, Forsberg, McKeown, Carrick, Bishop, and Wesley all eligible to receive QO.

 

[DaveG]

Is it just me or had the rfa qo deadline always been before the draft before rather than after?

 

[Chrispy]

Is it just me or had the rfa qo deadline always been before the draft before rather than after?

Not recently at least:

2018: Draft 6/22-23, RFA QO due 6/25.
2017: Draft 6/23-24, RFA QO due 6/25.
2016: Draft 6/24-25, RFA QO due 6/27.

 

[DaveG]

Not recently at least:

2018: Draft 6/22-23, RFA QO due 6/25.
2017: Draft 6/23-24, RFA QO due 6/25.
2016: Draft 6/24-25, RFA QO due 6/27.

Must have been a change when they opened the ufa negotiation window

 

[zman77]

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Canes can’t afford to keep their good players and will be moving to Quebec.

 

[Canes]

Deadline for RFA Qualifying Offers is today (at 5PM I believe)

Aho, Maenalanen, McGinn, Forsling, Flery, Nedeljkovic, Forsberg, McKeown, Carrick, Bishop, and Wesley all eligible to receive QO.

Let's hope we get them in on time and there's no Dale Tallon/2009 Blackhawks RFA like fiasco on our hands.

 

[AD Skinner]

What's supposed to happen today at 3?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

What's supposed to happen today at 3?

?

 

[GoldiFox]

What's supposed to happen today at 3?

Hall of Fame selection announcement - which may or may not include Rod - if the Tweet is any indication

 

[AD Skinner]

Ahhhhhh gotcha. I thought maybe there was some team specific thing going on