Prospect Info: All-Purpose 2024 Draft Thread & Celebrini discussion (also the 14th pick and whatever else is draft related)

[TheBeard]

New Athletic Mock v2.0 is out, and the story hasn't changed... At 14 we have a choice between Helenius, MBN, Jiricek, and Solberg, and they have us taking Jiricek (which I still think is not as likely as Solberg if we go D)... DET takes Helenius, STL takes Solberg, and MBN falls to the Caps as another Leonard type.

If this is what we're seeing at 14, I'm guessing we go Solberg, DET takes MBN, STL takes Jiricek and Helenius amazingly falls to the Caps. But who tf knows. I do think The Athletic seems to be settled in their groove and probably won't change much from here. I would also rather see a mock purely from Pronman who has better insight than the other journalists/beat writers.

Where did Sennecke go? The more I read up on him and watch his highlights the more I like.

 

[coooldude]

Where did Sennecke go? The more I read up on him and watch his highlights the more I like.

Devils at 10.

 

[Star Platinum]

Where did Sennecke go? The more I read up on him and watch his highlights the more I like.

10th to the Devils

 

[TheBeard]

Devils at 10.

Nice pick for them. Imagine a top 6 with Celebrini, Smith, Eklund, Sennecke, Musty and Zetterlund (or Halt)?? This doesn't even include Bysted and Edstrom who could end up playing together on the third line.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I eagerly anticipate when Pronman gets some actual info about who the Sharks are really considering at 14 instead of the Athletic writers just giving us Jiricek because we need D.

 

[one2gamble]

please dont take someone that already has an exploded knee

 

[TheBeard]

please dont take someone that already has an exploded knee

The term “exploded knee” gets tossed around so often it loses all meaning.

 

[Gecklund]

I eagerly anticipate when Pronman gets some actual info about who the Sharks are really considering at 14 instead of the Athletic writers just giving us Jiricek because we need D.

You will be waiting a while, I’d imagine. I do think Jiricek is a legit option for us just based on the level of talk around us and him.

Last two years I think reports came out like DAYS before the draft about our targets. With 4th overall, it was widely rumored it was Smith but that was week of when it was reported that Michkov wasn’t interviewing with all teams. With the year before I remember either day of or day before, Sheng posted our list was Mintyukov, Korchinski, Kasper, Savoie (I think that was the list) who all went the picks before us.

 

[TealManV]

I eagerly anticipate when Pronman gets some actual info about who the Sharks are really considering at 14 instead of the Athletic writers just giving us Jiricek because we need D.

Agreed.

Jux, I value your insight and opinion. If you got to make pick #14 for the Sharks today, who would your choice be between Helenius, MBN, Solberg, and Jiricek?

 

[Juxtaposer]

You will be waiting a while, I’d imagine. I do think Jiricek is a legit option for us just based on the level of talk around us and him.

Last two years I think reports came out like DAYS before the draft about our targets. With 4th overall, it was widely rumored it was Smith but that was week of when it was reported that Michkov wasn’t interviewing with all teams. With the year before I remember either day of or day before, Sheng posted our list was Mintyukov, Korchinski, Kasper, Savoie (I think that was the list) who all went the picks before us.

Right, I expect we won’t have any real idea who the Sharks are actually considering until the week of the draft, if at all. I just want to consume more draft content right now, is that too much to ask???

 

[Juxtaposer]

Agreed.

Jux, I value your insight and opinion. If you got to make pick #14 for the Sharks today, who would your choice be between Helenius, MBN, Solberg, and Jiricek?

I would take them in the order you’ve listed them. Helenius isn’t the best fit for our org but I think he’s a cut above the rest of them as players. I would be reasonably happy with MBN (mostly because he’s a great fit for the org), intrigued by Solberg, and slightly concerned with Jiricek, though it wouldn’t be “Timo Meier over Matt Barzal” levels of rage.

You don’t have to flatter me to get my opinion.

 

[Gecklund]

I would take them in the order you’ve listed them. Helenius isn’t the best fit for our org but I think he’s a cut above the rest of them as players. I would be reasonably happy with MBN (mostly because he’s a great fit for the org), intrigued by Solberg, and slightly concerned with Jiricek, though it wouldn’t be “Timo Meier over Matt Barzal” levels of rage.

You don’t have to flatter me to get my opinion.

We have the fake combine next week at least! Think it starts Tuesday.

 

[Juxtaposer]

We have the fake combine next week at least! Think it starts Tuesday.

Haven’t you heard, Ivan Demidov is 6’4” now!

 

[TealManV]

I would take them in the order you’ve listed them. Helenius isn’t the best fit for our org but I think he’s a cut above the rest of them as players. I would be reasonably happy with MBN (mostly because he’s a great fit for the org), intrigued by Solberg, and slightly concerned with Jiricek, though it wouldn’t be “Timo Meier over Matt Barzal” levels of rage.

You don’t have to flatter me to get my opinion.

Thanks for your insight! It would be hard for me to pass on MBN because I think he’s such an ideal fit. That being said, I agree with you that Helenius should probably be the pick in that scenario given his pedigree.

I was so disappointed by that Timo pick. I thought it was between Barzal and Rantanen.

 

[Gecklund]

Haven’t you heard, Ivan Demidov is 6’4” now!

Hey at least they corrected the Brunicke height. That was crazy.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Hey at least they corrected the Brunicke height. That was crazy.

Yeah I straight up thought I was losing my mind. Brutal.

 

[gaucholoco3]

I eagerly anticipate when Pronman gets some actual info about who the Sharks are really considering at 14 instead of the Athletic writers just giving us Jiricek because we need D.

Honestly it is getting old to read the same thing. Jiricek isn’t even the D I would choose in that spot.

At this point it’s them being lazy and just copy pasting stories.

 

[tiburon12]

Gonna take a stab at a mock up to 14 based on some outside the box thinking about what teams might overthink they need.

1. Celebrini - SJS - obvious
2. Buium - CHI - They'll want a elite skating Dman to be a running mate with Bedard
3. Demidov - ANA - I assume they'll trade Zegras, here's his replacement
4. Lindstrom - CBJ - Heartland fans will salivate over a giant 1-2 punch of Fantilli and Lindstrom
5. Iginla - CGY (trade with MTL) - Obvious
6. Levshunov - UTH - Dest D available
7. Silayev - OTT - He's giant and Ottawa clearly values size with their giant team
8. Dickinson - SEA - Best D available
9. Catton - MTL - After the Reinbacher pick, they're going offense
10. Parekh - CGY (Trade with NJD for Markstrom) - Best D available
11. Sennecke - BUF - His name sounds like it's from the region. That will trick their stupid front office
12. Helenius - SJS (Trade with PHI for Peterson) - Another all-around player responsible player, something Grier values
13. MBN - MIN - His name sounds like it's from the region, plus he's probably the BPA there
14. Eiserman - PHI - Replacement for Cutter

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Gonna take a stab at a mock up to 14 based on some outside the box thinking about what teams might overthink they need.

1. Celebrini - SJS - obvious
2. Buium - CHI - They'll want a elite skating Dman to be a running mate with Bedard
3. Demidov - ANA - I assume they'll trade Zegras, here's his replacement
4. Lindstrom - CBJ - Heartland fans will salivate over a giant 1-2 punch of Fantilli and Lindstrom
5. Iginla - CGY (trade with MTL) - Obvious
6. Levshunov - UTH - Dest D available
7. Silayev - OTT - He's giant and Ottawa clearly values size with their giant team
8. Dickinson - SEA - Best D available
9. Catton - MTL - After the Reinbacher pick, they're going offense
10. Parekh - CGY (Trade with NJD for Markstrom) - Best D available
11. Sennecke - BUF - His name sounds like it's from the region. That will trick their stupid front office
12. Helenius - SJS (Trade with PHI for Peterson) - Another all-around player responsible player, something Grier values
13. MBN - MIN - His name sounds like it's from the region, plus he's probably the BPA there
14. Eiserman - PHI - Replacement for Cutter

This is.....plausible....hmmm, even the explanations are plausible (i.e. something I would come up with)

 

[NiWa]

Gonna take a stab at a mock up to 14 based on some outside the box thinking about what teams might overthink they need.

1. Celebrini - SJS - obvious
2. Buium - CHI - They'll want a elite skating Dman to be a running mate with Bedard
3. Demidov - ANA - I assume they'll trade Zegras, here's his replacement
4. Lindstrom - CBJ - Heartland fans will salivate over a giant 1-2 punch of Fantilli and Lindstrom
5. Iginla - CGY (trade with MTL) - Obvious
6. Levshunov - UTH - Dest D available
7. Silayev - OTT - He's giant and Ottawa clearly values size with their giant team
8. Dickinson - SEA - Best D available
9. Catton - MTL - After the Reinbacher pick, they're going offense
10. Parekh - CGY (Trade with NJD for Markstrom) - Best D available
11. Sennecke - BUF - His name sounds like it's from the region. That will trick their stupid front office
12. Helenius - SJS (Trade with PHI for Peterson) - Another all-around player responsible player, something Grier values
13. MBN - MIN - His name sounds like it's from the region, plus he's probably the BPA there
14. Eiserman - PHI - Replacement for Cutter

Although early trades are unlikely, it's in the realm of possibility. I like it!
That said, BUF really needs C (Helenius) or RD (Yakemchuk).

 

[mogambomoroo]

Gonna take a stab at a mock up to 14 based on some outside the box thinking about what teams might overthink they need.

1. Celebrini - SJS - obvious
2. Buium - CHI - They'll want a elite skating Dman to be a running mate with Bedard
3. Demidov - ANA - I assume they'll trade Zegras, here's his replacement
4. Lindstrom - CBJ - Heartland fans will salivate over a giant 1-2 punch of Fantilli and Lindstrom
5. Iginla - CGY (trade with MTL) - Obvious
6. Levshunov - UTH - Dest D available
7. Silayev - OTT - He's giant and Ottawa clearly values size with their giant team
8. Dickinson - SEA - Best D available
9. Catton - MTL - After the Reinbacher pick, they're going offense
10. Parekh - CGY (Trade with NJD for Markstrom) - Best D available
11. Sennecke - BUF - His name sounds like it's from the region. That will trick their stupid front office
12. Helenius - SJS (Trade with PHI for Peterson) - Another all-around player responsible player, something Grier values
13. MBN - MIN - His name sounds like it's from the region, plus he's probably the BPA there
14. Eiserman - PHI - Replacement for Cutter

This looks very similar to how the draft actually can go, there is no clear picks other than Celebrini and I would even add couple of small ''reaches'' in that 8-12 area, like Greentree or Jiricek at like 9 and 10 pick (no reason why, but it always seems like there is couple of those in pretty high spots) Hopefully Sharks don't take a ''reach'' at #14 or in this universe at #12.

 

[Patty Ice]

No way does Markstrom net the 10th overall unless it's with significant adds.

 

[coooldude]

Anyone speak Norwegian? No mention of San Jose, mentions Chicago twice. (Link to my post in this thread, with a link in there to a short Tiktok interview with MBN).

EDIT: with some light translation on Google, he said he thinks he'll be drafted by Chicago, Detroit, or Calgary, his favorite team is Washington because of Ovie, and that he would love to be drafted by an original 6 team, so maybe Chicago because he's talked to them a lot.

RW Michael Brandsegg-Nygard - Mora IK J20, J20 Nationell (2024, 15th, DET)

Hi all! Normally I just read here but I have a question for those more knowledgeable than myself I don’t have a lot of viewings of MBN but I’m wondering if anyone else sees some Claude Lemieux in him? Lemieux wasn’t flashy but he was physical, had a great shot, was a playoff warrior and Mr...

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[Stewie Griffin]

Anyone speak Norwegian? No mention of San Jose, mentions Chicago twice. (Link to my post in this thread, with a link in there to a short Tiktok interview with MBN).

EDIT: with some light translation on Google, he said he thinks he'll be drafted by Chicago, Detroit, or Calgary, his favorite team is Washington because of Ovie, and that he would love to be drafted by an original 6 team, so maybe Chicago because he's talked to them a lot.

RW Michael Brandsegg-Nygard - Mora IK J20, J20 Nationell (2024, 15th, DET)

Hi all! Normally I just read here but I have a question for those more knowledgeable than myself I don’t have a lot of viewings of MBN but I’m wondering if anyone else sees some Claude Lemieux in him? Lemieux wasn’t flashy but he was physical, had a great shot, was a playoff warrior and Mr...

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I'm starting to really want MBN or Sojlberg at 14. Neither will be huge game breakers...but they'll make us way harder to play against. Celebrini and Smith can hopefully get us to the playoffs once they develop in the league...we need players to win us some games in the playoffs too.

 

[tiburon12]

Although early trades are unlikely, it's in the realm of possibility. I like it!
That said, BUF really needs C (Helenius) or RD (Yakemchuk).

I really just wanted Helenius lol

No way does Markstrom net the 10th overall unless it's with significant adds.

figuring out that trade wasnt important to the exercise so i didnt lol