Clint Eastwood
Eff the Habs
That street fight was a total shitshow. The rest was fun.
Hangman better stay away from Nana's weed.
Hangman better stay away from Nana's weed.
AEW All Elite Wrestling #9: Mox Aggressor Brings the Blood
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Hobbs almost killed the big show, but they managed to get the spot done safely. Big Show can barely walk so it was nice to see him get in two of the matches big spots and be done
Swinging a bike around as a melee weapon was such a shitty idea. The risk reward skews so heavily in favor of risk that it’s just not worth it. That added nothing at all to the match.
A couple really killer looking table spots near the end at least
Overall, Aew is kind of a mess lately. The guys doing the work don’t look like they’re enjoying it any more. It all seems like a chore. Crowds are embarrassingly scarce (although they still have quality over quantity i guess), and there are zero signs of change.
Put me down for Ziggler as the free agent
Swinging a bike around as a melee weapon was such a shitty idea. The risk reward skews so heavily in favor of risk that it’s just not worth it. That added nothing at all to the match.
A couple really killer looking table spots near the end at least
Overall, Aew is kind of a mess lately. The guys doing the work don’t look like they’re enjoying it any more. It all seems like a chore. Crowds are embarrassingly scarce (although they still have quality over quantity i guess), and there are zero signs of change.
Put me down for Ziggler as the free agent
sabremike
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The bike thing is because it's an iconic spot in the video game the entire match was built upon.
TheBeastCoast
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Am I the only person that actually thinks there is a lot of good shit happening on screen right now? lol I feel like the discourse over AEW has gotten even weirder then normal the last month or two. Like I didn't love last nights show honestly didn't even finish it....but there is way more good stuff then bad in AEW but I find the online discussion basically narrows in on and hammers the bad shit into submission at this point lol
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They were way, way more reliant on observer readers and IWC back when they started than they are now.
AtlantaWhaler
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From a much more casual fan...the "narrowing in" is on some basic, high-level stuff. Like booking, relying on old wrestlers, and watered down championships. It's certainly not ALL bad. They do have some great stuff going (from what I've watched), and it's fantastic finally having some good competition for WWE, but it certainly has its flaws.
Unholy Diver
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So basically it's an inside joke that you have no idea about if you didn't play the game?
The hitting people with the bike didn't bother me so much as the part before when Ibushi rode the bike and "Hit" guys with a painted paper towel roll so softly that it wouldn't have broken an already cracked egg
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New Japan, yes, because they since made a working deal. They didn’t have that when they started, but how else were you supposed to know anyone or what they were doing besides Jericho and Moxley unless you were scouring the internet and/or reading reports from people like Dave?
Unholy Diver
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That makes sense, but it still flew miles over my head. I suppose the Chinese take out menus are also part of a game?
Risk reward is still in favor of bad things
There’s plenty of good. The wrestling is still top tier. It just takes a lot to sit through a lot of the bullshit and get to the wrestling when the writing is as bad as it’s been. They gotta slow it down a bit. Cut the hokey stuff. Focus on a couple meaningful blood feuds
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Clint Eastwood
Eff the Habs
Yeah the good far outweighs the bad. I feel like people are so insistent to find the flaws in AEW. It's one thing to criticize what you don't like, it's another to hone in on the one dicey part of the show and focus on that. And I know I've said this a thousand times, but people care too much about business, ratings, and sales or whatever way too much for people who don't have any stock in the company lol.
It's the way of the internet though. Go onto any video game forum and it's mostly criticism and Dear John letters about why they hate the game.
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But you know who at least most of the people are, and they’re going to tell you what you’re otherwise supposed to know. That’s not the same as it was in 2019, where you didn’t know hardly anybody unless you were going out of your way to find it.
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I guess, but PPV's like Forbidden Door mostly means nothing to me if I have no idea who half the card is. There's rarely any build up from a story standpoint. I'm expected to know who the other guy is without any story. Looked like big news having Danielson wrestling some guy I don't know. That all being said, I am a casual fan. Maybe more people know these guys than I'm giving credit for?? No idea.
Unholy Diver
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Eh I feel like they often treat viewers like they watch every episode of ROH/AEW and just assume you know who a lot of these guys are, and combine that with the guys from Japan and 400 different factions it can be hard to tell or remember who is who and who is on which side
Excalibur being a spaz most of the time and talking a thousand miles an hour doesnt help either
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Some of them do. I don’t watch, but ROH isn’t a different universe, either.
Fro
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I concur for the most part. I barely know most of them as well. I try to just enjoy the matches because they're typically great or at least very good. And I learn new people to watch
I enjoy that Tony is basically a fan like us and wants to put on good matches and shows...I feel like he does need to do better on stories and why we should care about the matches, but just to watch them, I enjoy it.
The MJF story is fun, leaves so much open to what can happen, at least there's one good storyline and shows he can do it when he needs to
Emperoreddy
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Internet wrestling fans weren't going to stop criticizing things after Vince departed. Triple H is in a grace period on the other channel. All the focus is thus on Tony Khan. Soon enough, both guys will be dumped on regularly.
Fro
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Nemesis Prime
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100%. I didn't care for much of last night but i still like way more about AEW than I dislike
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