AEW All Elite Wrestling #8: Grabbing the Brass Ring of Honor

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I would say the only two major downsides to last night was the women's match was meh and this Toni/Rosa feud has no heat. Women continue not to get enough time.

Tag titles don't seem to mean anything? FTR should be getting a tag title shot at All Out but are in a blah six man instead.

Swerve and Lee haven't had a match on Dynamite since they won the titles.

Rest was good, but I am wary of having this title match next week. I think just building the match for All Out makes the most sense. Doing a draw or a f*** finish just to run it back again kills some of the hype
 
I would say the only two major downsides to last night was the women's match was meh and this Toni/Rosa feud has no heat. Women continue not to get enough time.

Tag titles don't seem to mean anything? FTR should be getting a tag title shot at All Out but are in a blah six man instead.

Swerve and Lee haven't had a match on Dynamite since they won the titles.

Rest was good, but I am wary of having this title match next week. I think just building the match for All Out makes the most sense. Doing a draw or a f*** finish just to run it back again kills some of the hype

Christian/Jungle Boy was idk confusing and didnt even lead to a match being announced. Rose/Storm is boring they need heat.

Other than that last 3 dynamites been good

Rampage results are up already looks ho hum to me
 
On the Punk thing: The problem with the shots at Paige is that they were clearly intended to bury the guy and wasted time meant to build up the match that was headlining a PPV. Him doing that was completely unprofessional but unfortunately he can pretty much do anything he wants and get away with it for obvious reasons.

that was bs punk basically buryed one of the main guys on the roster . i am sick of him already punk can go back to retirement he has always been about himself. drama follows him
 
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that was bs punk basically buryed one of the main guys on the roster . i am sick of him already punk can go back to retirement he has always been about himself. drama follows him

When I was younger and interviewed indie wrestlers. 2002ish-2004ish Punk was always a dick. Colt Cabana was coo as hell too.

Super Dragon was another dick but that was his whole character
 
When I was younger and interviewed indie wrestlers. 2002ish-2004ish Punk was always a dick. Colt Cabana was coo as hell too.

Super Dragon was another dick but that was his whole character

yea punk comes across as a dick anyway. so i ain't surprised lol. if tony had any balls he would fine him if that promo was truly not approved. the ego on the guy to just come in after 3 years and think he can say and bury whoever he wants lol like hes running the show.
 
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yea punk comes across as a dick anyway. so i ain't surprised lol. if tony had any balls he would fine him if that promo was truly not approved. the ego on the guy to just come in after 3 years and think he can say and bury whoever he wants lol like hes running the show.

This was legit the only time I liked Punk his best feud and his best promo ever



RIP Daffney
 
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This was legit the only time I liked Punk his best feud and his best promo ever



RIP Daffney


yea i never been a big fan of him tbh.. he always cried in wwe the last few years. was willing to give him a2nd chance but that promo last night burying page is the end of that lol especially if its true it wasnt approved.
 
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A couple of AEW updates from today's pwinsider.com.

After AEW Dynamite went off the air, Kenny Omega took the ring mic and addressed the crowd. He said that for some of the fans, it may have been the first live AEW event. If this was their second live event, he appreciates them because the last time they were here for a "Halloween spectacle" where they saw The Elite vs. Jack Evans & Angelico & Kip Sabian. He said it's always a pleasure to perform and since he's been gone for some time and if he does it now, he doesn't have to worry about how long or how hurt he is and he can talk to the crowd like a regular human being.

He questioned himself many times over the last 7-8 months and wondered if he could return and perform at the level of the others. He said it will take him time to catch up to everyone else and it will be some time before he will be able to challenge for a singles title, but he's glad everyone is with him on the journey. He said that he may cheat every now and then and he "isn't a good guy" but every time they show up, you are seeing a legitimate Kenny Omega and Young Bucks performance. He said they aren't a tribute act or a parody but they are trying to leave a legacy behind and they aren't here for selfish gains. Omega said it's not about match ratings or how much money they make for their families, but about changing the world and the wrestling world and the way that fans consume it.

Omega said they are going to give the fans the best trios matches, the best singles matches, the best hardcore matches, the best women's matches - that was always the mission statement. He said that as long as The Elite are "here", they will make sure the fans get that variety. Win, lose or draw, they will get it. No matter how banged up or taped up he is, the fans will get Kenny Omega too, somehow. He said that by a stroke of luck and because the Bucks are better than anyone truly knows "we were able to survive tonight."

Omega said that he should be mad at the fans because of the state he's in, as he's doing 3-4 physical therapy sessions a day, because he's performing for them. He then likened the fans to a cat that pees and poops all over the house. He can't hate the cat but he's mad when he finds it. So, on TV, he may blame the fans and hold resentment towards them but deep down inside "as long as this is never aired", he does appreciate the fans.

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We've had a number of readers ask about comments AEW Champion CM Punk made on last night's Dynamite, essentially calling out former AEW Champion Hangman Page (who did not come out), then calling the lack of response cowardly as opposed to "cowboy sh**" and then remarking that the apology should be larger than the "disrespect" before asking if anyone else had any issues and wanted to come out before turning the direction of his promo to Jon Moxley to build to their bout to crown an undisputed AEW Champion.

Punk's comments about Page and anyone else who wanted to come out and fight him were not part of the overall plans going into that segment.

Instead Punk, who has the leeway to go in whatever direction he wants verbally, appeared to take the moment to call out Page. It appears there has been some of of issue with Punk and Page brewing for months, given that right before their match at last May's Double or Nothing PPV (where Punk beat Page for the title), Page, to Punk's face, buried him in a promo and treated Punk as some sort of interloper to the promotion that Page needed to protect AEW from, which made zero sense given that was never Punk's on camera role for the promotion or even in the build to that match.

The comments at the time were so far out of left field that I asked AEW President Tony Khan about them during a media call for AEW Double or Nothing prior to the show. At the time, Khan said the segment made sense because they are two guys who don't like each other and want to fight. He said the comments helped make it a compelling fight and if you were someone like Page there from day one, you could see his perspective.

Obviously, CM Punk didn't see his perspective and given this was his first real promo time since breaking his foot, he decided to give Page a receipt verbally live on Dynamite.

To the best of our knowledge, there was no interaction with Punk and Page before, during or after last night's Dynamite backstage. Whether any of this is turned into storyline down the line remains to be seen, but when Punk made his comments, we are told they were made without AEW's advance knowledge and in that regard, it was 100% a shoot from Punk.
 
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Me with Punk before the infamous Clockwork Orange House Of Fun match vs Raven in Wakefield, MA (still have the shirt from the event) that was basically a disaster. Punk can be an asshole at times and an awesome guy at others with bad days and good days. In short he's human.
 
Why was Omega wearing a shirt? Maybe still working on his getting body back in its usual condition?

Last night, I read somewhere (and I can't remember where) that part of the beef between Punk and Page is that Page is friends with Colt Cabana. What I read was that Punk tried to get Cabana fired because of their beef, but Page/Elite didn't allow that. No idea if what I read is credible or not.

I like Page don’t understand why he hasnt been used correctly since forbidden door. Maybe an injury
He wasn't even used correctly while he was champion. They didn't present him as a star like they did right before the title reign.
 
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Why was Omega wearing a shirt? Maybe still working on his getting body back in its usual condition?

Last night, I read somewhere (and I can't remember where) that part of the beef between Punk and Page is that Page is friends with Colt Cabana. What I read was that Punk tried to get Cabana fired because of their beef, but Page/Elite didn't allow that. No idea if what I read is credible or not.


He wasn't even used correctly while he was champion. They didn't present him as a star like they did right before the title reign.
Punk seems like a vindictive diva IMO. Think people love him cuz the pipe bomb and its easy to hate WWE.
 
Next week on AEW Faction, ________ wrestler is offered to join a faction, and ________ wrestler turns on their faction. Which factions will be slightly different by the end of the night?
 
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Does Page get involved next week to make All Out a triple threat? Most recent AEW stories have been incorrect. Dirt sheets publishing the BS they're told. Maybe this one is true, maybe it's also BS, guess time will tell.
 
Why was Omega wearing a shirt? Maybe still working on his getting body back in its usual condition?

Last night, I read somewhere (and I can't remember where) that part of the beef between Punk and Page is that Page is friends with Colt Cabana. What I read was that Punk tried to get Cabana fired because of their beef, but Page/Elite didn't allow that. No idea if what I read is credible or not.


He wasn't even used correctly while he was champion. They didn't present him as a star like they did right before the title reign.

Don't think Omega is 100% yet

I've read a couple places that Punk's beef with Colt with Page being Colt's friend played into it. Wouldn't shock me since Colt got banished to ROH hell
 
Don't think Omega is 100% yet

I've read a couple places that Punk's beef with Colt with Page being Colt's friend played into it. Wouldn't shock me since Colt got banished to ROH hell
Is that like different catering or something? Low level Dark Order member is already pretty low on the overall totem pole.
 
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And remember this was in a year where he missed a good chunk of time due to going to rehab and getting his life straightened out. Not too shabby for someone who is bad at promos.

"All he can do is bleed"? I'm some guy online so my opinion doesn't mean much, how about ask William Regal what he thinks (I could mention any non idiot in the industry as well)? Guess it's just an accident he keeps having great match after great match (he even just had one against a guy that lots of geniuses online said was a washed up has been bum who needs to retire and go away with his band forever).
Larry Zbyszko not winning that at least once in the 80s (Jimmy Hart???) was a crime against humanity.
 
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I think I'm in the minority but I think I have more interest in Punk vs. Moxley vs. Page at All Out than just Punk vs. Moxley.

Also I think Daniel Bryan should have been ahead in line for the title before Punk.
I thought Page was given a raw deal. His run didn’t underwhelm because the fans stopped loving him.
 
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