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Alexis Lafreniere vs Nick Suzuki

Who do you think has more trade value?

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Xspyrit

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I'm curious to see what HF thinks of this

Alexis Lafreniere didn't shock the hockey world in his 19 y/o season, with only a 0.38 PPG and 13:53 TOI/GP

Nick Suzuki wasn't in the NHL at that age but graduated at 20 y/o with a good rookie season (0.58 PPG, 15:59 TOI/GP) and an even better sophomore season at 21 y/o (0.71 PPG, 18:11 TOI/GP)


So who has the most value in a trade? Alexis Lafreniere and how good he is projected or Nick Suzuki and what he has proven so far?
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I believe people will vote Laf for potential still as he does have higher ceiling but Suzuki has done more to deserve it. Suzuki is a year older though but does play the more important position. Will be interesting though to see how Laf does this year a year older and mature the potential is there and he does have a great supporting cast around him.
 
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SedintoHorvat said:
I believe people will vote Laf for potential still as he does have higher ceiling but Suzuki has done more to deserve it. Suzuki is a year older though but does play the more important position. Will be interesting though to see how Laf does this year a year older and mature the potential is there and he does have a great supporting cast around him.
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2 years and 2 months older
 
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At this point, still Lafreniere. If Suzuki breaks out and Laf disappoints, it could become pretty close this year though.
 

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I think Suzuki probably holds more trade value right now partly due to what his value is to the Habs vs Lafs value to the Rangers. Suzuki is one of the best players Montreal has, and it would take a kings ransom for them to consider letting him go. Laf isn't as important of a piece to the Rangers right now and most of his value is in his potential to become one of those pieces, I just think it would take more to entice the Habs to make a trade.
 

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I think Suzuki probably holds more trade value right now partly due to what his value is to the Habs vs Lafs value to the Rangers. Suzuki is one of the best players Montreal has, and it would take a kings ransom for them to consider letting him go. Laf isn't as important of a piece to the Rangers right now and most of his value is in his potential to become one of those pieces, I just think it would take more to entice the Habs to make a trade.
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Still that really has nothing to do with their actual trade values just because Montreal really has zero center depth and the NYR have some older offensive weapons.

Laf is still projected as the better player in the future and there is also more cost/control for him.

Suzuki has been a great steal for Max (who I never was a real fan off) because he also came with Tatar (who they literally wasted) a second rounder and was cheaper.
 
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FunkSoljah said:
I think Suzuki probably holds more trade value right now partly due to what his value is to the Habs vs Lafs value to the Rangers. Suzuki is one of the best players Montreal has, and it would take a kings ransom for them to consider letting him go. Laf isn't as important of a piece to the Rangers right now and most of his value is in his potential to become one of those pieces, I just think it would take more to entice the Habs to make a trade.
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Draisaitl is not the best player Edmonton has, does that mean he'd have less value than Suzuki who is the Habs best player?

What you're describing here is simply not how market value works.

mar·ket val·ue
/ˈmärkət ˌvalyo͞o/
noun
  1. the amount for which something can be sold on a given market.

The "given market" is the actual NHL (32 teams). What Suzuki means to the team/fans has nothing to do with that market. It's supply vs demand, like everything else.
 
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This isn't even remotely close it's the guy. Laf has probably close to triple the value if Suzuki at this moment. He is a year away from going first overall.
 

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Xspyrit said:
Draisaitl is not the best player Edmonton has, does that mean he'd have less value than Suzuki who is the Habs best player?

What you're describing here is simply not how market value works.

mar·ket val·ue
/ˈmärkət ˌvalyo͞o/
noun
  1. the amount for which something can be sold on a given market.

The "given market" is the actual NHL (32 teams). What Suzuki means to the team/fans has nothing to do with that market. It's supply vs demand, like everything else.
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Using Drasaitl as a comparison is absurd. Suzuki and Laf are 2 players with limited NHL experience and high upsides. Drasaitl is a proven commodity with an Art Ross and a Hart.

Market value for players absolutely does work that way, if it didn't then every team would offer the exact same packages for players in trades... which we all know they don't. Values are partially based on team needs and compositions especially when comparing players who might be perceived as similar in value. The "Market" can be different for each team, just like it is for products. Or in your world are prices the same everywhere for all products?
 

bobholly39

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Trade value? Laf 100% no question

Who ends up better? Probably also Laf but at least a bit of a chance its Suzuki
 
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FunkSoljah said:
Using Drasaitl as a comparison is absurd. Suzuki and Laf are 2 players with limited NHL experience and high upsides. Drasaitl is a proven commodity with an Art Ross and a Hart.

Market value for players absolutely does work that way, if it didn't then every team would offer the exact same packages for players in trades... which we all know they don't. Values are partially based on team needs and compositions especially when comparing players who might be perceived as similar in value. The "Market" can be different for each team, just like it is for products. Or in your world are prices the same everywhere for all products?
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Wait... you didn't understand why I mentioned Draisaitl?

This is what you said :

"Suzuki probably holds more trade value right now partly due to what his value is to the Habs vs Lafs value to the Rangers. Suzuki is one of the best players Montreal has"

@wetcoast also tried to explain you. I guess we both failed.

The "Market" absolutely can't be different for each team, there's only 1 market here and it's the global NHL market. Every team might not be ready to pay the same price for an asset but it's another story. Seriously, I just don't know where to begin so I'll just leave the link below

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/market.asp
 
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