Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière

[Ruggs225]

There just aren’t enough spaces, correct.

I don’t see them forcing more time for pp2 if pp1 is going, however I think if they hit another slow patch it wouldn’t kill the Rangers if they sent out the second unit first a few times to send a message.

Just like they bring in more competition in camp to push players it wouldn’t hurt to keep the vets honest once in a while. Spread the tough love around the lineup, if needed.

Also it would be nice to build a 2-3 goal lead on a night like tonight allowing you to send out the second unit first later in the game if the opportunity arises.

I fogot what fame it was but we had like a three goal lead in the third and got a PP. Cosch shit for brains of course trotted out PP1

 

[ReddestRum]

Well, you need to see if from the player to push himself up in the lineup too.

Its not like we are talking about Laf playing well and Vesey up in the top 6 taking his minutes, or one of the LWs ahead of him out with an injury.

Kakko earned where he is right now, thats a big part of it. Playing very consistent, in all facets.

I do think it would help Laf if he got time on PP1, as I've stated earlier in the thread, but its a two way street. I don't think Gallant is "burying" him in the bottom 6, just because. You are trying to win games AND develop at the same time.

That idea as a whole can be debated and thats fine, but it's a fact and it's not going to change.

However, I also believe that Gallant would love to have Laf up top playing top 6 minutes, if he earned it by playing consistently where he is. He had him there to start the year. I think all of the Rangers brass wants to see him thrive and hit another level of his development. And then who knows. He could push his way onto the first PP unit.

What a rarity of a post in this thread. Agree with everything that's being said here.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Should’ve started the second unit cmon gallant in Montreal nonetheless

 

[Ruggs225]

Should’ve started the second unit cmon gallant in Montreal nonetheless

“Im not here to develop players” f*** him

 

[duhmetreE]

Well, you need to see if from the player to push himself up in the lineup too.

Its not like we are talking about Laf playing well and Vesey up in the top 6 taking his minutes, or one of the LWs ahead of him out with an injury.

Kakko earned where he is right now, thats a big part of it. Playing very consistent, in all facets.

I do think it would help Laf if he got time on PP1, as I've stated earlier in the thread, but its a two way street. I don't think Gallant is "burying" him in the bottom 6, just because. You are trying to win games AND develop at the same time.

That idea as a whole can be debated and thats fine, but it's a fact and it's not going to change.

However, I also believe that Gallant would love to have Laf up top playing top 6 minutes, if he earned it by playing consistently where he is. He had him there to start the year. I think all of the Rangers brass wants to see him thrive and hit another level of his development. And then who knows. He could push his way onto the first PP unit.

I would have 100% put Laffy on PP1 in the 3rd period. The game was over. The entire unit should have worked to get him a goal/point.

The kid is struggling. What are they doing to help him?

 

[Raspewtin]

Should’ve started the second unit cmon gallant in Montreal nonetheless

on the TMM they did

 

[Crease]

The kid is struggling. What are they doing to help him?

The Rangers love a good PR story, so the fact that we haven’t heard anything says volumes.

 

[ReddestRum]

I would have 100% put Laffy on PP1 in the 3rd period. The game was over. The entire unit should have worked to get him a goal/point.

The kid is struggling. What are they doing to help him?

Put a struggling 21 y/o on a PP1 that he's not at all familiar with in a 3-1 game where the Habs were turning up the pressure on us.

I'm starting to think you guys would be okay with a human sacrifice if Laf got a point in a game. =p

 

[duhmetreE]

Put a struggling 21 y/o on a PP1 that he's not at all familiar with in a 3-1 game where the Habs were turning up the pressure on us.

I'm starting to think you guys would be okay with a human sacrifice if Laf got a point in a game. =p

The kid is struggling.

It’s 100% mental right now. From the outside, you do what you can to snap him out of it.

He’s overthinking and over analyzing possibly. That never works in competitive sports

We need playoff Laffy

 

[ReddestRum]

The kid is struggling.

It’s 100% mental right now. From the outside, you do what you can to snap him out of it.

He’s overthinking and over analyzing possibly. That never works in competitive sports

We need playoff Laffy

I think we'll get playoff Laf anyway. Hopefully. However, if Kakko keeps it up, no way the kid line gets reformed. Chy scored, but I'm still wary of that line. Still, everyone ramps it up for the playoffs.

 

[mas0764]

Im on the record that Laf needs to be deployed differently but at the same time if Chytil is on and Laf figures out his issues, a Laf-Chytil line shouldn’t go dead just cause Vesey is on it.

 

[ReddestRum]

Im on the record that Laf needs to be deployed differently but at the same time if Chytil is on and Laf figures out his issues, a Laf-Chytil line shouldn’t go dead just cause Vesey is on it.

Maybe a Laf-Chy-Gaut line? More speed on that line wouldn't hurt.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

Maybe a Laf-Chy-Gaut line? More speed on that line wouldn't hurt.

Defintely much preferable to Vesey there. Gauthier has played well this season and deserves to be moved up to the third line for a few games.

 

[Unpredictable1]

Laf - I'm hanging on by fkn fingernails here.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Put a struggling 21 y/o on a PP1 that he's not at all familiar with in a 3-1 game where the Habs were turning up the pressure on us.

I'm starting to think you guys would be okay with a human sacrifice if Laf got a point in a game. =p

Just point us to the altar and we'll take care of the rest.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Im on the record that Laf needs to be deployed differently but at the same time if Chytil is on and Laf figures out his issues, a Laf-Chytil line shouldn’t go dead just cause Vesey is on it.

Goodrow should join that line imo, I have no faith that either Vesey or Gauthier will score if either of them make a play to them, they likely feel the same way and it does mess with how you play the game. Laf chytil kakko seemed to trust each other and it worked, not sure if Goodrow helps but I know Vesey doesn't.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Put a struggling 21 y/o on a PP1 that he's not at all familiar with in a 3-1 game where the Habs were turning up the pressure on us.

I'm starting to think you guys would be okay with a human sacrifice if Laf got a point in a game. =p

3-1 with 2 minutes left in the game on the PP, if they are worried about the Habs somehow scoring 2 shorthanded goals because Laf is out there then the team has bigger issues. Kids should have played that no-risk PP. But it's GG, so it was obvious the 1st unit needed to be out. Wouldn't want Panarin throwing a fit on the bench.

 

[Mac n Gs]

He had a similar dip last year until he had that shootout goal that gave him a spark of confidence. I was really hoping he'd have that easy backdoor tap-in in the third last night, but it was a bit of an awkward pass and he didn't get enough on it.

We've seen he can be a very good player, so I'm not too concerned. We have Chytil and Kakko firing on all cylinders right now, so Laf has some leeway before we need him to step up. Krav looks really good, but hasn't gotten points either. The key is figuring out how to get all 4 to be contributing like we need

 

[RagFinMet]

3-1 with 2 minutes left in the game on the PP, if they are worried about the Habs somehow scoring 2 shorthanded goals because Laf is out there then the team has bigger issues. Kids should have played that no-risk PP. But it's GG, so it was obvious the 1st unit needed to be out. Wouldn't want Panarin throwing a fit on the bench.

I agree
There are so many opportunities GG could start PP2(with fox not trouba)
With Fox they be really good imo
But we have very selfish, arrogant, point whores on this team. They'd rather pad their stats then get their teammates going..
It's disgusting how long they (Panarin especially) will keep themselves out there on the PP or empty net situations
And GG sux for allowing it to happen

 

[Ruggs225]

3-1 with 2 minutes left in the game on the PP, if they are worried about the Habs somehow scoring 2 shorthanded goals because Laf is out there then the team has bigger issues. Kids should have played that no-risk PP. But it's GG, so it was obvious the 1st unit needed to be out. Wouldn't want Panarin throwing a fit on the bench.

Gallant said he is not here to develop the kids. He means it. He would not want to be called a liar.

He really doesnt gove a shit if they develop. As long as they win.

What he is too stupid to realize is that we need the kids to develop in order for us to win the cup. Especially since guys like panarin disappear in the playoffs.

 

[redwhiteandblue]

3-1 with 2 minutes left in the game on the PP, if they are worried about the Habs somehow scoring 2 shorthanded goals because Laf is out there then the team has bigger issues. Kids should have played that no-risk PP. But it's GG, so it was obvious the 1st unit needed to be out. Wouldn't want Panarin throwing a fit on the bench.

This is a little hyperbolic but I still agree haha.

 

[SA16]

I agree
There are so many opportunities GG could start PP2(with fox not trouba)
With Fox they be really good imo
But we have very selfish, arrogant, point whores on this team. They'd rather pad their stats then get their teammates going..
It's disgusting how long they (Panarin especially) will keep themselves out there on the PP or empty net situations
And GG sux for allowing it to happen

Panarin is 11th on the team in TOI with the empty net. He has less ice time in that situation than Kakko. He has 8 more seconds than Lafreniere and 14 more than Chytil (in 8 more games). But yea, just staying out there trying to pad his stats I suppose.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

In a random game in January against a terrible Montreal team in Montreal in front of his family... Gallant needed to beat up on Montreal? Instead of give the kid a boost whose been stripped of all his confidence by this coach. Couldn't give him one inconsequential game to be the guy... worst Rangers coach I've ever seen in my life. Complete douche.

 

[Ruggs225]

In a random game in January against a terrible Montreal team in Montreal in front of his family... Gallant needed to beat up on Montreal? Instead of give the kid a boost whose been stripped of all his confidence by this coach. Couldn't give him one inconsequential game to be the guy... worst Rangers coach I've ever seen in my life. Complete douche.

I wouldnt say worst coach.

Trottier, vigneault and quinn are all pretty easily worse.

But having gallant as coach actually makes me miss Renney. And i dont know why.

 

[PANARIN BREAD FAN]

In a random game in January against a terrible Montreal team in Montreal in front of his family... Gallant needed to beat up on Montreal? Instead of give the kid a boost whose been stripped of all his confidence by this coach. Couldn't give him one inconsequential game to be the guy... worst Rangers coach I've ever seen in my life. Complete douche.

well damn - you make it sound like that was almost as bad as the bret hart montreal screwjob.

yeah GG wants to win and doesn't care about player development. he's lying. anyone here going to deny that kk, chytil, and even krav and gradually have progressed for the better so far during the season? ok maybe not at the rate as you want it to be but there has been signs of progresss.