id love if Lafy turned into Owen Nolan, a physical skilled power winger is what this team can use. I did think Lafy would be more physical, hopefully he can add some spunk into his game.
Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière
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id love if Lafy turned into Owen Nolan, a physical skilled power winger is what this team can use. I did think Lafy would be more physical, hopefully he can add some spunk into his game.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Exactly.
The only thing he was suffering from was being a highly drafted rookie who hadn't yet scored.
Fortunately, we've found the cure.
JCProdigy
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| First 10 Games | |||||
| Goals | Asst | Pts | PP Pts | TOI | |
| Lafreniere (7 gms) | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 15:29 |
| Hughes | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 16:09 |
| Dahlin | 1 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 18:54 |
| Hirschier | 2 | 5 | 7 | 2 | 16:15 |
| Matthews | 6 | 4 | 10 | 4 | 17:25 |
| McDavid | 5 | 5 | 10 | 3 | 18:12 |
| Ekblad | 1 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 21:41 |
| MacKinnon | 1 | 6 | 7 | 1 | 13:29 |
| Yakupov | 5 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 14:54 |
| Nugent-Hopkins | 5 | 4 | 9 | 5 | 16:31 |
| Hall | 2 | 3 | 5 | 1 | 16:39 |
EdJovanovski
#FreeRempe
JCProdigy
Registered User
Remember though we are talking about super small sample size. I also have the charts for games for the next 20 games after. If he can score at a .5-.6 pt/gm clip he'll be right in line with the rest.
HockeyBasedNYC
Feeling it
I wonder what all of those numbers would look like if they all had rookie seasons this year. We will never know
JCProdigy
Registered User
Yep, also have to remember there is no "NHL" this year. There really is four different leagues under the NHL banner.
Rempe73
RIP King of Pop
The way the 4 divisions were set up makes this a much different comparison for Lafreniere. The Rangers are in the toughest division and with the shortened schedule each game is like a playoff game with ultra tight D. This does not have the feel of a regular season. There will be no easy games for the Rangers this year and no games catching the other team from the west coast on a tiring east coast swing.
Lafreniere will be just fine.
Lafreniere will be just fine.
aufheben
#Norris4Fox
Literally every #1OA pick* in the history of time went through a scoring drought at some point(s) during their rookie seasons. Yeah, Matthews scored 4 goals on his first NHL game like a psycho but he also went 11GP 0G 2A like two weeks after that.
*Nuge might have actually been very consistent and arguably robbed of the Calder Trophy that year, but clearly his career never met the hype.
Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
Stamkos must be a bust too because he didn't score a point until his 8th game, and didn't score his first goal until his 9th game.
I swear to God...McDavid/Matthews back to back ruined 1OA expectations...
I swear to God...McDavid/Matthews back to back ruined 1OA expectations...
Synergy27
F-A-C-G-C-E
Hes basically the exact same player now as he was when he broke into the league as a rookie. I see a similar career path for the Devils Hischer.
The top 10 that year turned out to be pretty good. Strome and Larsson are the only ones who I'd deem "disappointments", at least relative to where they were picked but neither as busts.
That 6-7-8 trio of centers though. And our Bozo pick turned out to be pretty good, even if he put it together somewhere else.
I’m much more interested in how Laf performs now that the monkey is off his back, he’s had 7 games to acclimate and the other members of his team seem to have found a pulse.
Comparisons in sports are natural, but most #1OAs finish their junior season in the summer, go to a full training camp, maybe Traverse city, play in 5-6 preseason games and then make their NHL debut. They’re maybe 3-4 months removed from meaningful games and had some exhibition games to get a taste of NHLers.
Not only did Laf not have a preseason acclimation, his last meaningful hockey was significantly longer ago. Add in Broadway expectations on a #1 pick and just the slight bit of being behind in timing and conditioning can get in your head and make things even harder. And at some point, not getting on the scoresheet for 3, 4, 5 games becomes a weight on the shoulders as well.
That’s all passed. He got on the board in grand fashion. He’s had the equivalent of a preseason to get acclimated. A baptism by fire really. All of that, and the relief of having scored, coupled with the rest of the team showing signs of life... I have little doubt the remainder of Laf’s season is at least on par with that of an “average” 1OA.
If he finishes with 25 points in 56 games I won’t be upset. But I’d be more surprised if he ended up under 25 than I will be if he ends up close to 40. I think - and I also believe that every NYR faithful, including Sam, Joe, Vally, etc. FELT it in the moment - that the goal last night was the breakthrough moment and the kid is HERE now.
Big things to come.
Comparisons in sports are natural, but most #1OAs finish their junior season in the summer, go to a full training camp, maybe Traverse city, play in 5-6 preseason games and then make their NHL debut. They’re maybe 3-4 months removed from meaningful games and had some exhibition games to get a taste of NHLers.
Not only did Laf not have a preseason acclimation, his last meaningful hockey was significantly longer ago. Add in Broadway expectations on a #1 pick and just the slight bit of being behind in timing and conditioning can get in your head and make things even harder. And at some point, not getting on the scoresheet for 3, 4, 5 games becomes a weight on the shoulders as well.
That’s all passed. He got on the board in grand fashion. He’s had the equivalent of a preseason to get acclimated. A baptism by fire really. All of that, and the relief of having scored, coupled with the rest of the team showing signs of life... I have little doubt the remainder of Laf’s season is at least on par with that of an “average” 1OA.
If he finishes with 25 points in 56 games I won’t be upset. But I’d be more surprised if he ended up under 25 than I will be if he ends up close to 40. I think - and I also believe that every NYR faithful, including Sam, Joe, Vally, etc. FELT it in the moment - that the goal last night was the breakthrough moment and the kid is HERE now.
Big things to come.
Rempe73
RIP King of Pop
But you also have to take into account that Lafreniere is one of the oldest 1OA picks to make his NHL debut (among those who played in the NHL right away).
aufheben
#Norris4Fox
But why are we only looking at their first 10 games to begin with?
Steven Stamkos, C (18 yrs)
2008-09
Games 1 to 17
| GP | G | A | PTS | +/- | PIM | EV | PP | SH | GW | EV | PP | SH | S | S% | SHFT | TOI | ATOI |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 17 | 2 | 2 | 4 | -8 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 33 | 6.1 | 264 | 203:55 | 11:00 |
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
John Tavares, C (19 yrs)
2009-10
Games 33 to 45
| GP | G | A | PTS | +/- | PIM | EV | PP | SH | GW | EV | PP | SH | S | S% | SHFT | TOI | ATOI |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 13 | 1 | 0 | 1 | -7 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 22 | 4.5 | 258 | 227:41 | 17:31 |
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Taylor Hall, LW (19 yrs)
2010-11
Games 1 to 17
| GP | G | A | PTS | +/- | PIM | EV | PP | SH | GW | EV | PP | SH | S | S% | SHFT | TOI | ATOI |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 17 | 3 | 4 | 7 | -8 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 38 | 7.9 | 362 | 285:55 | 16:49 |
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Auston Matthews, C (19 yrs)
2016-17
Games 7 to 16
| GP | G | A | PTS | +/- | PIM | EV | PP | SH | GW | EV | PP | SH | S | S% | SHFT | TOI | ATOI |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 | 0 | 2 | 2 | -5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 37 | 0.0 | 216 | 175:01 | 17:30 |
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
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aufheben
#Norris4Fox
In a few years, this is 3 goals, not 1...
JCProdigy
Registered User
Nah, it's a matter of months. In the grand scheme of things, it isn't going to matter that he was two months older than Matthews when he debuted.
But why are we only looking at their first 10 games to begin with?
Steven Stamkos, C (18 yrs)
2008-09
Games 1 to 17
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
GP G A PTS +/- PIM EV PP SH GW EV PP SH S S% SHFT TOI ATOI 17 2 2 4 -8 8 1 1 0 0 33 6.1 264 203:55 11:00
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
John Tavares, C (19 yrs)
2009-10
Games 33 to 45
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
GP G A PTS +/- PIM EV PP SH GW EV PP SH S S% SHFT TOI ATOI 13 1 0 1 -7 4 1 0 0 1 22 4.5 258 227:41 17:31
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Taylor Hall, LW (19 yrs)
2010-11
Games 1 to 17
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
GP G A PTS +/- PIM EV PP SH GW EV PP SH S S% SHFT TOI ATOI 17 3 4 7 -8 4 2 1 0 0 38 7.9 362 285:55 16:49
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Auston Matthews, C (19 yrs)
2016-17
Games 7 to 16
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
GP G A PTS +/- PIM EV PP SH GW EV PP SH S S% SHFT TOI ATOI 10 0 2 2 -5 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 37 0.0 216 175:01 17:30
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Never said I was. Just posted it as a small sample size as to how recent 1OA picks started their careers. People can take from it what they will. I also looked over the following 20 games and of course the full season. Myself, why I did it was because I was actually more interested in the avg TOI they were getting and how many of their pts were coming on the PP (ie were they living off being given 1st PP time which Laf is obviously not getting).
aufheben
#Norris4Fox
I mean I wasn’t blaming you. I see people do this all the time on the main boards too. Just pointing out that you can find scoring droughts during all these rookie seasons.
Let’s see how Laf performs from here on out now that he likely has a bit more confidence and is probably not clutching his stick so tight. His season starts now as far as I’m concerned.
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Stamkos rookie season evened out after they fired that shifty coach...
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Do we know what percentage of their points came on the PP? Laf hasn’t had much time on our PP. and no time on our 1st PP.
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