Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière
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will1066
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Maybe jumping from juniors to pro is bit tougher than thought for some people.
FireGerardGallant
The Artist Formerly known as FireDavidQuinn
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Again, there is nothing to suggest that what you are suggesting is even remotely accurate.
As long as they keep skating and are being noticeable, they are fine.
Amazing Kreiderman
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Most 1st overall picks join a team that has almost no top players so they slide into a top-6 role with ease.
Either that, or Quinn really is not that great at developing prospects. Which would be supported by the fact that the prospects who do well, developed outside of New York
Or it could be that it's a little more difficult developing prospects in the middle of a pandemic that has ravaged everyday life for almost a year now. I've been away from the board for a while, but that seems like a pretty evident truth that seems to get glossed over when analyzing coach and player.
"Laff gets it" as in he gets how to be a good teammate. Which was the opposite of what Tony did. Anyway, 99% sure that was not the intention of the tweet, just was the first thing that came to my mind.
So we are not going to give any credit to Miller's and Chytil's development?
Amazing Kreiderman
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Chytil? I guess you could make a case that he played under Quinn at a young age and impacted his development but he spent a significant time in Hartford as well.
Miller's development? Miller developed in college for 2 years. He didn't develop under Quinn. Quinn had as much to do with Miller's development as he has with Fox who also stepped in day 1
Ok then what about Tony's and Buchnevich's development? Ignoring the fact that Tony is a terrible human being. Lindgren and Howden seem better this year as well.
I don't think the rangers have been perfect or even great at developing talent, but let's not push this false narrative that they can't develop players.
KirkAlbuquerque
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Tony and Buch are 25. DQ has shown he's terrible with kids. It's not like 18 or 19 year olds have never been able to have success in the NHL before. And these kids are supposed to be particularly high end. he's done a terrible job with them. Especially Kakko.
What has been terrible about Kakko or Lafreniere? What has been terrible with Fox? Miller? Lindgren? Has Howden been terrible this year? Has Lemieux been terrible?
Amazing Kreiderman
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Kakko and Lafreniere are the only ones to develop on the Rangers team as a teenager. Every other young player developed elsewhere
Oh, right. Miller and Fox are God's gift to hockey and have come into the league fully developed. Lindgren was such a beast with Boston that they traded him. And no, he has not progressed since his first camp with the Rangers.
Tampa did a bang up job developing Howden. Same with Winnipeg and Lemieux.
Again, Chytil developed as a teenager, and he's progressed quite nicely. Rangers are a stacked team. Circumstances are a bit different. Kakko and Lafreniere don't have to be the go to guys. And honestly, I have already seen Lafreniere getting better as the season progresses.
Amazing Kreiderman
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Lindgren: Hartford/Minnesota
Miller: Wisconsin
Fox: Harvard
Chytil: Hartford/New York
Buchnevich: Cherepovets/St Petersburg/New York (2 years before Quinn arrived)
Howden: Moose Jaw/New York
Hajek: Saskatoon/Hartford/New York
Those situations are COMPLETELY different from Kakko and Lafrenière who started in New York straight out of the draft.
So Lindgren's development is due to Minnesota and how many games in Hartford? Miller's play is all due to his coaching in Wisconsin???? Seriously?
Fox is all 100% Harvard. Chytil's is all due to his less than 20 games in Hartford? Seriously? Howden is all due to Moose Jaw?
And yeah, Buchnevich under AV was exactly the same player he has been under Quinn.
Lol so Chytil's development had more to do with Hartford even though he improve quite a bit while on the varsity squad? Come on dude, you're cherry picking here.
Amazing Kreiderman
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All I am saying is that they are different. But I am happy everyone is crediting the head coach now after years of "AV cannot develop players"
aufheben
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Sorry, what is the distinction here? I don’t understand what them being teenagers has to do with anything.
Amazing Kreiderman
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I am just pointing out something that was brought up by others previously. I'm already tired of this debate. Firing Quinn isn't fixing anything anyway. We are still 2-3 years away from contending.
aufheben
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But what are you pointing out?
Well, while some have done it well in the past, they didn’t have the layoff Laf did, nor did they not get any preseason games to get a little acclimated. Jumping from the CHL playoffs to NHL training camp, preseason and then your debut keeps you pretty much in game shape and ready. The long layoff and then the huge change of pace from juniors to NHL is definitely something to consider.
NYSPORTS
back afta dis. . .
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thankfully it’s a shortened season despite the longest nine games i can remember
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