Series Talk: [A1] Toronto Maple Leafs vs [WC1] Ottawa Senators (TOR Leads 1-0)

Who wins in how many games?

  • Leafs in 4

    Votes: 27 3.1%
  • Leafs in 5

    Votes: 120 13.9%
  • Leafs in 6

    Votes: 241 28.0%
  • Leafs in 7

    Votes: 70 8.1%
  • Senators in 4

    Votes: 28 3.2%
  • Senators in 5

    Votes: 17 2.0%
  • Senators in 6

    Votes: 176 20.4%
  • Senators in 7

    Votes: 183 21.2%

  • Total voters
    862
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The Sens are an up and coming team. This year is different for them. They have Green instilling a solid system, Sanderson has arrived, their 3 rd line is awesome, Cousins was a good addition, Ullmark can win games on his own etc etc. just have to hope Tkachuk is ready to go.
I think the pressure will be all on the Leafs so the series could go either way but I have my money on the Sens taking this one.
 
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Yes. Those plays never happen on Ottawa ice during the playoffs.


You are uniquely incapable of having a conversation with. All you do is deflect instead of actually addressing what is being discussed.

Please, tell me more what a game from 20 years ago where everyone is long retired has to do with Marner being defensively-inept in the playoffs, with giveaways and over-the-glass penalties contributing to AT LEAST three series-clinching losing goals against?

Note that the core of players you are bringing up never won the cup. Is that your point? That Marner is not a cup-winning kind of guy? Because yes, I agree.
 
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It's not different. Nobody cares who came in 9th.
But ofc it is? They won a bunch of series and had a great rivalry with a dynasty in Pittsburgh. Took em 10 playoffs to win since Bäckström joined, but at least they learned what they had to do before getting the Cup. Winning multiple series vs 1 is very different, and they tweaked their roster a lot during those years. There were, like, two constant players from 08-18, Bäckström and Ovie
 
You are uniquely incapable of having a conversation with. All you do is deflect instead of actually addressing what is being discussed.

Please, tell me more what a game from 20 years ago where everyone is long retired has to do with Marner being defensively-inept in the playoffs, with giveaways and over-the-glass penalties contributing to AT LEAST three series-clinching losing goals against?

Note that the core of players you are bringing up never won the cup. Is that your point? That Marner is not a cup-winning kind of guy? Because yes, I agree.

Hey, I just showed you a similar play to Marner's. Who's deflecting? I'd show you a Sens playoff clip from the last 7 years, but I couldn't find one.

Defensively inept? You had Redden and Karlsson FFS. It don't get worse than that.
 
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The Sens are an up and coming team. This year is different for them. They have Green instilling a solid system, Sanderson has arrived, their 3 rd line is awesome, Cousins was a good addition, Ullmark can win games on his own etc etc. just have to hope Tkachuk is ready to go.
I think the pressure will be all on the Leafs so the series could go either way but I have my money on the Sens taking this one.

Why the pressure now? Why not when they needed to win the win the division?
 
Well the leafs will need to up their game this year in the playoffs, if they want to go as far as the fans think, as they have as many series wins in the last 20 years as the Kraken.
 
Why the pressure now? Why not when they needed to win the win the division?
Mainly because of their lack of playoff success ( like when are they going to make the finals with this core? ) and the fact that they may be losing Marner and the team is getting older maybe not really older but still older so their window is closing a little every year while the Sens window ( for this particular core ) is just now being opened. Hey I want a Canadian team to win the Cup and if it ends up being the Leafs that would be great ( longest drought! ) but I do like what I'm seeing in the Sens so this should be a good series.
 
Mainly because of their lack of playoff success ( like when are they going to make the finals with this core? ) and the fact that they may be losing Marner

Aren't these indicators they might actually do it? Overdue and the clock is striking midnight? Leafs always wait until they have no choice to do the right thing

and the team is getting older maybe not really older but still older so their window is closing a little every year while the Sens window ( for this particular core ) is just now being opened.

Absolutely irrelevant this year

Well the leafs will need to up their game this year in the playoffs, if they want to go as far as the fans think, as they have as many series wins in the last 20 years as the Kraken.

Do the Senators have another gear is the question or have they thrown their best at the Leafs already?
 
Hey, I just showed you a similar play to Marner's. Who's deflecting? I'd show you a Sens playoff clip from the last 7 years, but I couldn't find one.

Defensively inept? You had Redden and Karlsson FFS. It don't get worse than that.
Not to be that guy, but when was the last time the Leafs had a player of Karlsson’s calibre, as well as having one of their players match what EK did on one foot in the 2017 playoffs…?
 
Not to be that guy, but when was the last time the Leafs had a player of Karlsson’s calibre, as well as having one of their players match what EK did on one foot in the 2017 playoffs…?

I don't know. I don't recall a Leafs captain whining like a bitch to be traded and running an innocent player and his wife out of town.
 
Aren't these indicators they might actually do it? Overdue and the clock is striking midnight? Leafs always wait until they have no choice to do the right thing



Absolutely irrelevant this year



Do the Senators have another gear is the question or have they thrown their best at the Leafs already?
Yeah they might do it. My point is that the pressure will be more on the Leafs than the Sens.
If Leafs lose in the first round again than what? Who goes, what gives or is it rinse and repeat?
If the Sens lose no biggy as they're just getting going.
I would just love to see a Canadian team raise the cup this year.
 
Mainly because of their lack of playoff success ( like when are they going to make the finals with this core? ) and the fact that they may be losing Marner and the team is getting older maybe not really older but still older so their window is closing a little every year while the Sens window ( for this particular core ) is just now being opened. Hey I want a Canadian team to win the Cup and if it ends up being the Leafs that would be great ( longest drought! ) but I do like what I'm seeing in the Sens so this should be a good series.
Technically, Toronto has more playoff success than Ottawa. "Technically", because, obviously, Toronto also has a string of playoff failures.

No idea how it all balances out, but I'd give the edge to Toronto because there is value in having been there many times before. Even negative experience counts as experience. Plus, the Leafs' biggest playoff-goat (as opposed to GOAT), Marner, had a shockingly clutch Four Nations performance. The Leafs have more talent, a lot more experience, and infinitely more reason to want this.
 
81 pages and two days to go. If this series goes all the way, we'll likely break the record for shit talk on HF.
 
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This will be a fascinating series

Can the leafs get past their intense choking, can the senators finally beat the team thats defeated them in every series they played?

Whoever wins it will be huge for the franchise.

Should be an exciting series. Hoping for a long one, but ill settle for a senators sweep haha
 
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But ofc it is? They won a bunch of series and had a great rivalry with a dynasty in Pittsburgh. Took em 10 playoffs to win since Bäckström joined, but at least they learned what they had to do before getting the Cup. Winning multiple series vs 1 is very different, and they tweaked their roster a lot during those years. There were, like, two constant players from 08-18, Bäckström and Ovie
Ooooo, they had a great rivalry. Of course, the Caps are allowed their 10 years after Backstrom (nice that you shifted the goalposts)—12 years with Ovechkin—to win, but the Leaf core are cast in stone deadbeats for not doing it in less time. No wonder this thread is over 80 pages before a game's been played, so much pontificating over nonsense.
 
Technically, Toronto has more playoff success than Ottawa. "Technically", because, obviously, Toronto also has a string of playoff failures.

No idea how it all balances out, but I'd give the edge to Toronto because there is value in having been there many times before. Even negative experience counts as experience. Plus, the Leafs' biggest playoff-goat (as opposed to GOAT), Marner, had a shockingly clutch Four Nations performance. The Leafs have more talent, a lot more experience, and infinitely more reason to want this.
I agree with this but I believe the fact remains that the Leafs have more of the pressure. Of course there's pressure on the Sens too as this is the playoffs but for the Leafs .. it's been building over and over.
 
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Ooooo, they had a great rivalry. Of course, the Caps are allowed their 10 years after Backstrom (nice that you shifted the goalposts)—12 years with Ovechkin—to win, but the Leaf core are cast in stone deadbeats for not doing it in less time. No wonder this thread is over 80 pages before a game's been played, so much pontificating over nonsense.
Well yeah..? Their loss to the Habs was pretty lame I guess, but otherwise they met the Penguins like almost every year, or the best playoff goalie in Lundqvist.

Yeah, the Caps before Bäckström was a sad bunch of players that had no business winning anything, so I think it’s fair to start counting from there :)
 
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