Series Talk: [A1] Toronto Maple Leafs vs [WC1] Ottawa Senators | Part II (TOR lead 3-2)

[Leaf Fans]

But they've only won once in 11 (now 12) tries when they've had the chance to close out a series.
Im not sure what you're arguing against here? Leafs winning to stave off elimination is something completely different.

Leafs can't close a series and this trend will continue when the Sens take this 4-3.

They gave themselves an opportunity to try.
Besides, it is their record in series clinching games vs Ottawa which has my interest.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Are sens fans still blaming Ullmark for everything?

They might be crediting Ullmark for tonight.

 

[Silky Johnson]

He said neutral fans, not Leafs haters.

There is no such thing. Fans or haters only.

 

[Silky Johnson]

They focus on protecting leads rather than expanding them in the playoffs.

How does that logic work for overtime games?

 

[Divine]

How does that logic work for overtime games?

One team is generally leading at some point prior to overtime. That team sits back and the other team scores. Not too many 1-0 OT wins.

Besides an overtime 1 goal win isn’t any better or worse than losing or winning by 1 goal in regulation despite people thinking the games are closer if they win/lose in OT.

 

[Oleksiak]

No game on Monday..but Tuesday should be fun.

The Leafs being the older team in the series should benefit from finally getting an extra off day too.

They'll also benefit more from coaching adjustments due to having a real coach.

 

[Silky Johnson]

One team is generally leading at some point prior to overtime. That team sits back and the other team scores. Not too many 1-0 OT wins.

Besides an overtime 1 goal win isn’t any better or worse than losing or winning by 1 goal in regulation despite people thinking the games are closer if they win/lose in OT.

Overtime games also can be back and forth like game 3. Leafs led for exact 0min and still won.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Weird that game 5 isn’t till Tuesday. Not sure that really benefits anyone unless some guys are playing hurt.

 

[Commander Clueless]

everyone's thinking it... no reason it can't happen because it's the Leafs after all

Yeah we're all thinking it.

Remember folks, there is no such thing as a Leafs doomer. You wouldn't accuse people in the Fallout universe of being paranoid for believing the apocalypse will continue to be there....

 

[Leaf Fans]

everyone's thinking it... no reason it can't happen because it's the Leafs after all

It has happened to Detroit, Pittsburgh, Boston and San Jose. It is rare but possible.

 

[Peasy]

Pretty off game for Stolarz. Was really unfortunate they were missing JT for the double minor PP because of the cheap shot. Rielly is just so useless on the PP. They should have just put McMann out there or something instead of Rielly.

If they dont close this out in 5, then its looking like the same shit different year.

Pretty crazy the long periods the sens have gone with barely any shots, especially in a do or die game like this.

 

[AvroArrow]

Extremely frustrating that there's gonna be 0 repercussions for Zub for head shotting Tavares. It's literally every year we have to deal with this crap. How many times do we see our guys get hit in the head, cross checked in the head, knees taken out, boarded, with no penalty called or no suspension.

It's a yearly occurrence in the playoffs, extremely frustrating. But if we retaliate (Kadri) our guys get a 5 minute misconduct and a series suspension.

They gave Hagel 1 game and a misconduct for just interfering with Barkov, shoulder to chest.

This was a complete elbow to the face of a guy who was 20 feet away from the puck.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

Weird that game 5 isn’t till Tuesday. Not sure that really benefits anyone unless some guys are playing hurt.

It might have something to do with Monday being federal election day?

 

[flyingfingers]

It's known the Leafs lack depth at centre. With Tavares out - who's their #2 centre? Domi? Laughton? Players that you pay 11M are pretty important. When you're paying them 11M, you can't afford the depth (until next season when he's not making 11M). Laughton played more than Tavares this game due to his injury.

Hopefully it was just concussion spotters and not a serious issue. They'll get past Ottawa without Tavares but not likely to go much further.

Kind of crazy how the 13M “generational” center can’t step up on that PP, though.

He is keeping Ridley Greig and Mike Amadio off the scoresheet though, so I guess that’s worth something…

 

[Karl Eriksson]

It might have something to do with Monday being federal election day?

Totally. Good point. I voted so long ago I forgot. lol

 

[flyingfingers]

It might have something to do with Monday being federal election day?

They wanted a potential game 7 to be played on Saturday night as well, I’d think.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Extremely frustrating that there's gonna be 0 repercussions for Zub for head shotting Tavares. It's literally every year we have to deal with this crap. How many times do we see our guys get hit in the head, cross checked in the head, knees taken out, boarded, with no penalty called or no suspension.

It's a yearly occurrence in the playoffs, extremely frustrating. But if we retaliate (Kadri) our guys get a 5 minute misconduct and a series suspension.

They gave Hagel 1 game and a misconduct for just interfering with Barkov, shoulder to chest.

This was a complete elbow to the face of a guy who was 20 feet away from the puck.

It just wasn’t a hard hit. Tavares flops to the ice because the refs have been calling soft stuff like that, I don’t blame him for trying to get the call, but the gesture just isn’t violent. Zub is barely moving. Ironically the sell job costs Tavares time because he gets caught by the protocol spotters. Glad he wasn’t out for the double minor or this game may end differently.

 

[NyQuil]

Get a 4 minute double minor in OT to clinch the series.

Still complain about the refs.

Tavares returned to the game.

 

[Evilhomer]

Has Ottawa been this bad at faceoffs all season? They are getting dominated in this series on draws.

 

[Fatass]

Extremely frustrating that there's gonna be 0 repercussions for Zub for head shotting Tavares. It's literally every year we have to deal with this crap. How many times do we see our guys get hit in the head, cross checked in the head, knees taken out, boarded, with no penalty called or no suspension.

It's a yearly occurrence in the playoffs, extremely frustrating. But if we retaliate (Kadri) our guys get a 5 minute misconduct and a series suspension.

They gave Hagel 1 game and a misconduct for just interfering with Barkov, shoulder to chest.

This was a complete elbow to the face of a guy who was 20 feet away from the puck.

Totally different from the Barkov circumstance. JT was heading to the front of the net. Zub was already in that ice. That’s a hockey play.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Totally different from the Barkov circumstance. JT was heading to the front of the net. Zub was already in that ice. That’s a hockey play.

Agreed. But also look at the vectors of each player. This isn’t a classic cheap shot drive by chicken wing at speed. It’s incidental. I do think 2 mins could have been called based on the pretty tight officiating this series, but people talking about supplemental discipline are insane.

 

[93gilmour93]

Ottawa slips by with an overtime win. Toronto will end this series in 5....

 

[NyQuil]

Ottawa slips by with an overtime win. Toronto will end this series in 5....

 

[Rob]

I’m fully expecting the Leafs to put this away on Tuesday. If they don’t………

 

[93gilmour93]

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