GreatStateofHockey
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A Little Erik Karlsson Update
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11 + 15 + 19 = 666
McManked
Ooh to be a Gooner
"Whopping".
Nice. Good to see his dominance around the globe. Will be interesting to watch him in 2014 Olympics.
Nice. Good to see his dominance around the globe. Will be interesting to watch him in 2014 Olympics.
McManked
Ooh to be a Gooner
Condra's American smartypants
edit-hey it said team canada
Karlsson
Alfredsson
Landeskog
Enstrom
Lehner
what's not to like?
McManked
Ooh to be a Gooner
No it didn't, if it did it would say "edited".
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On a somewhat random note, there is no player in the NHL/world I would trade Karlsson for.
Crosby has health issues.
Malkin is closing in on UFA.
Stamkos isn't that much better offensively to justify the move.
Nobody else comes close.
McManked
Ooh to be a Gooner
I don't disagree with you here.
On a somewhat random note, there is no player in the NHL/world I would trade Karlsson for.
Crosby has health issues.
Malkin is closing in on UFA.
Stamkos isn't that much better offensively to justify the move.
Nobody else comes close.
Also to justify keeping Karlsson over Stamkos, it creates a huge hole on D and creates an even bigger log jam at C. Not a reason to turn away Stamkos, unless you're giving up a Norris winning defenceman.
ReginKarlssonLehner
Let's Win It All
You forgot Edler, the guy who will be alongside Karlsson in Ottawa next year; come on man.
Patvolcom65
@Patvolcom65
Anca18
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meh. Edler is overrated. Hamhuis does all the heavy lifting in Vancouver.
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Karlsson > Leetch
One of the articles on that translated website:
"Finnish economy is a lousy thing is that exports have started to decline again. Finnish Ice Hockey the best product for export, hockey coaching, instead of interest. Suction to the east is tougher than there ever were in Imatra rapids."
"Finnish economy is a lousy thing is that exports have started to decline again. Finnish Ice Hockey the best product for export, hockey coaching, instead of interest. Suction to the east is tougher than there ever were in Imatra rapids."
QuietOnTheFront
@QuietOnTheFront
This could be true. The papers here keep writing up how he is going to be out of town because of all the $$ already allocated towards the D.
WRONG.
Hamuis has been Vancouver's most consistent dman yes. But Edler does more. Plays the first PP unit and the first SH unit. Hits more, scores more, and sets up more. He could have done better this year but was playing with a considerable injury. The reason Canucks are willing to part ways with him is because he is the only piece of their hefty $$ d-corps that could bring considerable value in return. That is why his name has been linked with numerous trades over the summer. That and the fact that media here is having doubts on whether or not he'll reach his "elite" potential now with his bummed back.
So while I wouldn't mind Edler on our team, I don't think its a good idea given the fact that we'd have to give up a considerable amount for someone who could decline so easily. Reports are saying his back may never fully heal. So is it worth the risk on picking up a guy we are going to most definitely over pay for?
Did Karlsson have some amazing games to end the season? Cause last time I checked he was about three points under a PPG.
His last game was 1+4 when Jokerit won rival Helsinki team HIFK 8-1
The game before that he was 1+1
Erik will most likely be named as a player of the December. 8 games and 15 points. Actually first two games were pointless so 15 points in last 6 games. Also missed one game for suspension. Only competitors for the player of the month might be team mates Flppula or Pulkkinen.
Erik's stats game by game (in Finnish)
http://www.sm-liiga.fi/pelaajat/12-13/jokerit/karlsson-erik/ottelu-ottelulta.html
Erik's stats game by game (in Finnish)
http://www.sm-liiga.fi/pelaajat/12-13/jokerit/karlsson-erik/ottelu-ottelulta.html
MainDotC
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SpezDispenser
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You're absolutely wrong.
First, he wouldn't bring in more value in a trade than any other Canuck d-man because he is unrestricted this summer.
Second, Hamhuis does all the heavy lifting.
Hamhuis plays more minutes 5-on-5. Hamhuis plays against the top lines. Hamhuis plays more on the PK. I don't know where you are getting your info but it's wrong.
Edler gets the highest % of offensive zone starts out of all Canucks d-men.
Hamhuis was on the ice for a HUGE amount more goals for than Edler
http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?ds=25&s=21&f1=2011_s&f2=5v5&f4=D&f5=VAN&f7=20-&c=0+1+3+5+4+6+7+8+13+14+29+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+28#
Canucks score so much more when Hamhuis is on the ice.
The Canucks gave up much less goals against when Hamhuis was on the ice vs Edler, despite Hamhuis playing more total minutes and against better competition.
http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?ds=25&s=22&f1=2011_s&f2=5v5&f4=D&f5=VAN&f7=20-&c=0+1+3+5+4+6+7+8+13+14+29+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+28#
Finally, Hamhuis puts up more points/per minute of ice time than Edler at even strength.
http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?ds=25&s=20&f1=2011_s&f2=5v5&f4=D&f5=VAN&f7=20-&c=0+1+3+5+4+6+7+8+13+14+29+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67+17+18+19+20+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+28
Hamhuis is also not far behind on the PP, though Edler gets many more minutes there.
Hamhuis is clearly the #1 D in Vancouver.
