Proposal: 6 player boston/anaheim deal

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

im thinking that simple 1 for 1 deals arent working for teams like anaheim and winnipeg and even st louis otherwise i think we would have seen a deal

cap concerns mess up alot of trades... but for a team like anaheim they want to contend too. taking picks/ prospects for established core players isnt going to work.

ive tried to put together a deal that saves anaheim 4 mill this year but still allows them to ice a vetern lineup with 3 roster spot upgrades

from anaheim
cam fowler 2×4
kevin bieska 2×4
antoine vermette 2x1.75

from boston
kevan miller 4x2.5
john michael liles 1x2
ryan spooner 1x.95

so for anaheim... they sign lindholm he upgrades fowler
i think spooner is a sizable upgrade over vermette
and i humbly suggest miller upgrades over bieska

i think this deal works for my bruins too

fowler needs no explanation
i think vermette helps a kid like czarik alot with faceoffs and defense zone responsibilities
and i think bieska will help a smaller guy like krug more than miller or mcquaid could

id look forward to a bruins defense of
carlo/chara
miller/fowler
bieska/krug
mcquaid/miller

my proposal uses up almost all bostons caproom but makes us a playoff team imho. could anaheim get more value for fowler? perhaps if they settle for picks but if they want to go for the cup this year i think this deal might be the best it can do

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[Zegs2sendhelp]

I'm going to be honest... you don't want anything to do with bieska

 

[JRull86]

Oh God Bieksa? No, no, no.

 

[Arthuros]

I would not wish Bieksa on my worst enemy.

 

[Emerald Duck]

I doubt Bieksa waives his NMC to move to Boston, so the proposal never gets off the drawing board.

Also, if we move out Fowler and Bieksa, we don't want dmen back. We have too many dmen. Moving Fowler for a forward (i.e., Spooner) allows us to sign Lindholm. Vermette holds more value to us than a couple of 4/5 dmen.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I'm going to be honest... you don't want anything to do with bieska

i understand bieska is cooked... but for boston i like his 2 year hit more than a 4 year hit for miller. boston is blessed by the development of carlo. we also seem to be ok playing krug on his off side. then we just drafted a kid we think is going to play soon... and the c miller experiment continues

i wouldnt be asking alot from bieska... mostly looking for his leadership and mentor role... hoping he will fight if a fight is required.

if bieska is unwilling. we dress macquaid instead

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

i understand bieska is cooked... but for boston i like his 2 year hit more than a 4 year hit for miller. boston is blessed by the development of carlo. we also seem to be ok playing krug on his off side. then we just drafted a kid we think is going to play soon... and the c miller experiment continues

i wouldnt be asking alot from bieska... mostly looking for his leadership and mentor role... hoping he will fight if a fight is required.

if bieska is unwilling. we dress macquaid instead

Only thing he is willing to do is have you throw your remote at the TV because he's making another dumb play

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I would not wish Bieksa on my worst enemy.

anaheim needs the caproom... so taking bieska is like a sweetner. but anaheim can also use some size and grit on the blueline after loosing bieska and stoner. i think k miller is a better player than stoner or bieska or mcquaid.

i personally think fowler is worth more than spooner so im trying to balance the trade for anaheim by taking bieskas contract

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Only thing he is willing to do is have you throw your remote at the TV because he's making another dumb play

sometimes guys dont fit on a team. larry murphy was hated by maple leaf fans. erik cole was a waste of space in edmonton... for whatever reason sometimes players suck on a particular team.

id hope bieska might be one of these type of guys

 

[duckpuck]

Ignoring the other obvious problems with this trade, such as the fact that Bieksa will NEVER waive his NMC, why would the ducks trade 2 defensemen and one forward for two defensemen (really 3, after Lindholm) and one forward? Even if the ducks win the value part of this trade (not saying they do), it does nothing to solve their roster balance issues.

The ducks need forwards, specifically LW or C.

 

[Pia8988]

Absolutely not. Do not want to tie up 6 million in players that boston doesn't need just to get Fowler. If they're just for cap savings do something around Bernier and Khudobin. This would also leave Boston with 4 million with 10 forwards and needing to pay Pastrnak. Bad deal for Boston.

 

[go4hockey]

sometimes guys dont fit on a team. larry murphy was hated by maple leaf fans. erik cole was a waste of space in edmonton... for whatever reason sometimes players suck on a particular team.

id hope bieska might be one of these type of guys

Bieksa is not one of those guys who needs a change of scenery he just sucks and has for a few years. Also doubt he waves to get moved to Boston.

 

[wintersej]

Fowler for Spooner + prospect to be argued over.

McQuaid to COL for McLeod (optional, but I think it makes sense for both teams).

Keep it simple. https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/208243

 

[anezthes]

from anaheim
cam fowler 2×4
kevin bieska 2×4
antoine vermette 2x1.75

from boston
kevan miller 4x2.5
john michael liles 1x2
ryan spooner 1x.95

No. If Spooner is a healthy scratch in Boston, then no way I trade our best defenseman for him.

so for anaheim... they sign lindholm he upgrades fowler

Maybe, but certainly not a given.

 

[TOGuy14]

Pretty sure the Bieksa NMC makes him unmovable.

Who wants to burn a protection slot on that guy....

 

[Pennaduck]

Vermette and Bieksa both have NMC so this deal wouldn't happen.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

i was thinking we could take bieska and protect 7 and 3 without a problem... but i wasnt figuring fowler into the equation with krug and chara

i have to change my offer to clayton stoner. i dont honestly care which guy it is, because i was only trying to give anaheim cap room.

as for the comment about spooner being scratched. hes been looking like hes playing a bit hurt or sick. his results the last couple years speak for themselves. but we attempted to move him to wing and it hasnt gone smooth. theres potential reasons why the team sat him a game... not being a very good player wasnt one of those reasons

to be honest ive made dozen or more proposals that we could deal krejci and use spooner on the scoring line. i wouldnt suggest using spooner to center our scoring line if he sucked. hes just a bit weak defensively like alot of undersized skilled centers are. bruins are trying to encourage him to play better defense

 

[nmbr_24]

sometimes guys dont fit on a team. larry murphy was hated by maple leaf fans. erik cole was a waste of space in edmonton... for whatever reason sometimes players suck on a particular team.

id hope bieska might be one of these type of guys

Didn't Bieksa suck in his last year in Vancouver? That would make two teams in a row he has sucked on. I really don't see any reason to think he would all of a sudden become better in Boston. From what I have seen over the past few seasons, Bieksa just isn't very good now.

I also don't believe that the Bruins would trade anything for him. He is 35 and that really doesn't look like what the Bruins want to be adding to the team unless it is as a low cost rental for the playoffs but they have to get there first.

 

[JOKER 192]

I'd be all for a trade centered around Spooner and Fowler but this isn't it. No way I take on two cap dumps just to acquire Fowler. I like the player, don't get me wrong, but that's a lot of hurt for a player who isn't going to solve much for the Bruins.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Bieksa has a NMC and has stated that he has no desire to waive it, Spooner for Fowler might work. But Spooner will become a RFA next summer and need a decent raise. I could see Fowler possibly going to Boston. And pretty much think that Spooner will be involved.

 

[wintersej]

Bieksa has a NMC and has stated that he has no desire to waive it, Spooner for Fowler might work. But Spooner will become a RFA next summer and need a decent raise. I could see Fowler possibly going to Boston. And pretty much think that Spooner will be involved.

I think Spooner would have to be involved from both sides point of view. Boston won't be able to afford signing Spooner to a Rackell like deal next season with Fowler in the roster. Anaheim for obvious reasons would want Spooner. But, can Anaheim afford a Rackell like deal for Spooner next season?