Post-Game Talk: #6 - 01/26/21 | RANGERS @ sabres
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- Jan 18, 2012
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Their leadership
the only other answer is the team is slow fading away from Quinn. He's losing/lost control. Or it's a combination of both.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
I suspect two things:
1. Not getting those 4 wins deflated them a bit, and they thought Buffalo was going to be an easier time. When it wasn't, they shut down.
2. If we win those 4 games, and sit at a 4-2 record, it also probably changes the way we interpret how close to the edge we are.
Finding a balance is always a challenge. It's easy to get too high or too low on a team and that leads to a yo-yo effect.
This team has some positives, and it has some negatives. And that's what the transition period was also going to bring --- though one obviously would've hoped for different outcomes as a result of the positive.
That’s what I saw. First half of the third was embarrassing even homer Joe was implying it you could tell. We were playing like we were winning 6-1 and not down by 1. Basically a cake walk for the buffalo defense
Zibanejbread
Rebuilding.
Our PP is 4 for 24 and our pp qb from last season isn’t on it. Pretty amazing coaching
Mac n Gs
Drury plz
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The only thing I'd tweak is keeping it at 4F/1D on both units. I'm indifferent towards whether it's Fox or Tony running the first powerplay since I think both provide different advantages (Fox sustains possession by keeping pucks alive at the blue line, while Tony plays with a much faster pace).
I'd run these units:
Kreider
Panarin-Mika-Buch
Fox/Tony
PP2:
Gauthier
Lafreniere-Strome-Kakko
Fox/Tony
Both give you a 3RHS/2LHS balance and a big, net-front presence to run those set play screens. Getting Trouba off of PP2 should help stop the absurd amount of point shots we take, which are utterly useless unless you're Shea Weber.
Strome has sucked, Zib has been terrible (covid?), and Panarin has been ok at best. Where are you going when half your top 6 is MIA? They can't win a draw, they don't forecheck, and what the hell was Deangelo doing on that third goal last night? This team doesn't have a talent problem, they have an effort problem.
- Jul 16, 2005
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It's not?
I think that's exactly his job. Or at least it would be under normal circumstances.
In our particular instance his job, IMO, is first and foremost to get the kids moving. The vets are a protective shield for the kids so I'm only tangentially concerned about them.
NYRFANMANI
Department of Rempe Safety Management
What do you mean maybe? It WAS, he WAS. And we've been talking like it for years.
This team will need time to develop new leadership, new chemistry, new identity.
Tony’s pace is everything pp1 is at its best with one timers and quick passes. Someone called it controlled chaos the other day and that’s perfect. Pks and goalies can’t keep up while I love fox his game is all about slowing things down. Our power play is VERY slow right now. The one time is gone. It’s cerebral but it’s no where near as dynamic. There’s a reason Tony was 4th in scoring among dmen. He’s an elite guy there. To not use him is ridiculous frankly
- Jul 16, 2005
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I would still be similarly aggravated I think, if we added say, 2 goals from Zibanejad, another goal from Kreider, another goal from Strome, one from Lemieux, and maybe one from Rooney, and we have 4 wins instead.
I'd still feel like I need to see more from Laf and Kakko.
If a coach needs to get Kreider, Zib, Panarin, Trouba, and Strome going at this point in their careers, that's an indictment on the players not the coach.
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Two of those players perhaps should have been traded at the last deadline.
If every night you’re playing against teams that are better prepared and play a more disciplined system than you do I don’t care who you are you’re going to look lost and frustrated out there and we do. We have the worst coach in the division and it’s not close. This is not a talent problem.
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haveandare
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Quinn is making Panarin coast and take long shots all game? He’s making Mika disappear? He’s the reason neither goalie can give an even average performance despite the team limiting high danger chances?
How do you think the bottom 6 is playing well enough to make chances for and prevent chances against if there’s no system? I don’t get this
And it’s not “every night” - it’s literally been the first game and last night that they were outplayed.
according to this logic if you have good players a coach would never get fired.
when the collective group looks like shit for long enough and it’s CLEAR your team is always the least structured and disciplined team on the ice it’s not rocket science
Coming out flat, I blame the coach. This team had the same problem under AV. But a lot of what's ailing them this year seems to be more about the guys you need and expect to perform, simply haven't. I'm assuming this is the same system that saw Panarin and Zib have monster seasons last year.
