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4th (6th?) Annual Player Elimination Game | It's Over! 1. Karlsson 2. Methot 3. Andy

D Marc Methot 13
C Mika Zibanejad 11 (-)
D Erik Karlsson 25
G Craig Anderson 12

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 13
C Mika Zibanejad 9 (-)
D Erik Karlsson 25
G Craig Anderson 12

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 13
C Mika Zibanejad 9
D Erik Karlsson 23 (-)
G Craig Anderson 12

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 13
C Mika Zibanejad 9
D Erik Karlsson 21 (-2)
G Craig Anderson 12

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 13
C Mika Zibanejad 7 (-2)
D Erik Karlsson 21 (-2)
G Craig Anderson 12

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 14 (+)
C Mika Zibanejad 7
D Erik Karlsson 20 (-)
G Craig Anderson 12

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
Can't add to scores now, only two reductions, either -2 on one player or -1 on 2 players. Adjusted the list.

D Marc Methot 13
C Mika Zibanejad 7
D Erik Karlsson 19 (-)
G Craig Anderson 12

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 12 (-)
C Mika Zibanejad 7
D Erik Karlsson 18 (-)
G Craig Anderson 12

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 12
C Mika Zibanejad 7
D Erik Karlsson 16 (-2)
G Craig Anderson 12

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 12
C Mika Zibanejad 7
D Erik Karlsson 16
G Craig Anderson 10 (-2)

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 12
C Mika Zibanejad 7
D Erik Karlsson 16
G Craig Anderson 8 (-2)

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 12
C Mika Zibanejad 7
D Erik Karlsson 16
G Craig Anderson 6 (-2)

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 12
C Mika Zibanejad 5 (-2)
D Erik Karlsson 16
G Craig Anderson 6

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 12
C Mika Zibanejad 3 (-2)
D Erik Karlsson 16
G Craig Anderson 6

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 12
C Mika Zibanejad 3
D Erik Karlsson 14(--)
G Craig Anderson 6

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 10 (--)
C Mika Zibanejad 3
D Erik Karlsson 14
G Craig Anderson 6

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
D Marc Methot 10
C Mika Zibanejad 1 (-2)
D Erik Karlsson 14
G Craig Anderson 6

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
 
It is finished.

D Marc Methot 10
D Erik Karlsson 14
G Craig Anderson 6

Eliminated
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D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
C Mika Zibanejad
 
Gold: Erik Karlsson
Silver: Marc Methot
Bronze: Craig Anderson

Order of elimination:

D Mike Lundin
C Peter Regin
L Dave Dziurzynski
L Guillaume Latendresse
L Matt Kassian
C Jim O'Brien
D Andre Benoit
L Cory Conacher
D Eric Gryba
D Sergei Gonchar
D Patrick Wiercioch
R Erik Condra
C Zack Smith
L Colin Greening
C Jean-Gabriel Pageau
L Milan Michalek
R Chris Neil
D Chris Phillips
D Jared Cowen
R Jakob Silfverberg
C Jason Spezza
R Daniel Alfredsson
C Kyle Turris
G Robin Lehner
C Mika Zibanejad
 
I don't think anyone could have predicted Methot being so successful here when he was traded last year.

I feel like I was one of the only people who loved that trade when it happened.

I just thought he was exactly what we needed.

That said, I could have NEVER predicted him being such a consistent force to our back end.
 
I feel like I was one of the only people who loved that trade when it happened.

I just thought he was exactly what we needed.

That said, I could have NEVER predicted him being such a consistent force to our back end.

Honestly, I wasn't a fan of it. I didn't understand why we traded foligno, who i loved, when we could have gotten a similar calibre d man in free agency without giving up assets. Man, was I wrong :laugh:
 
I feel like I was one of the only people who loved that trade when it happened.

I just thought he was exactly what we needed.

That said, I could have NEVER predicted him being such a consistent force to our back end.

Same here. Loved the trade, loved Meth back in Columbus, but never in my wildest dreams did I expect him to be such a rock here. Nor did I expect Foligno to flourish in Columbus. Talk about your win-wins.
 
I feel like I was one of the only people who loved that trade when it happened.

I just thought he was exactly what we needed.

That said, I could have NEVER predicted him being such a consistent force to our back end.
Same here. Loved the trade, loved Meth back in Columbus, but never in my wildest dreams did I expect him to be such a rock here. Nor did I expect Foligno to flourish in Columbus. Talk about your win-wins.



I'm with you guys!

My post (one of many) the day of the trade:

ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE FOLIGNO/ METHOT TRADE
- We finished 24th in the league in Goals Against, and 21st in PK, mostly because our blueline lacked a legit shutdown guy. Methot is that guy.
- We needed a shutdown guy who also had the speed and mobility to play in Maclean's high-tempo system. Methot is that guy.
- If we'd wanted one of the truly elite shutdown defencemen in the league, you'd better believe that we'd have to pay a HECK of a lot more than just Nick Foligno. We got a guy who is VERY good, and fits the pace at which we play our game (whereas many other shutdown guys either play in a defensive system, or in a system that lacks an emphasis on speed). Methot, while not Chara out there, fits Maclean's system to a tee (in theory).
- Foligno's a nice player, but he's ultimately expendable considering how full our system is of young wingers. The gap between Foligno and Latendresse is WAY less than the gap between Methot and our next best PK/ shutdown defenceman.
- Defencemen, over the last 10 years, have been the most expensive position players to acquire, due to shortage in quality. In contrast to this, wingers have been the cheapest to acquire, due to an overabundance of them in the league.
- The team didn't see Foligno as a top-6 player (so far).
- People who use the "we acquired a defenceman from the league's worst team" argument completely dismiss the factors as to WHY that team finished last: their "star goalie" had a .894sv%, which was 74th in the league. That's not to mention that Mason had a decent last few months of the season... in January, his Sv% was in the .860's. Columbus suffered from a double-whammy of being a bottom-5 team in Goals For, and having some of the worst goaltending of any team in the last decade. Zdeno Chara would have been a minus player for Columbus last year.

I don't know... can I really add anything to that? They are 2 years and 3 months apart in age, which is almost nothing. Filled a need by moving from an area of strength? Check.

I get if Foligno was your favorite player: it sucks, there's a ton of emotional stuff involved. I get it. But strictly from a hockey sense, what else needs to be said, here?

... I was wrong about the gap between Foligno & Latendresse (oops!) but otherwise I think everything I wrote back then holds true today.
 

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