Prospect Info: 47OA: Brady Cleveland

[Filppula]

Ugh. That is my word. Read the scouting reports and statistics on picks after 40. Go ahead, draft 6 undersized but potentially skilled wingers. That has not been done before. If a team knew a pick in the 2nd round would be a bottom pairing PK player, who fights, hits and stays at home who owns the corners, they woud be drafted again and again and again.

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Never mind... here you go. Start pulling up all the NHLers after 47.

Yeah I’m a pretty level headed fan. I’m not even going to argue you because I know you’re right. My only disappointment is that judging by the first page plus of posts, the reaction seemed to say we got this one wrong. And absolutely nothing since has suggested those fans and reactions were wrong. But I know it was the same for Bertuzzi and look how that worked out. And I also know that 2nd rounders, despite having this extreme optimism attached to them, actually miss more than hit. I get it honestly.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Where did I bag the guy? You’re taking the wrong meaning.

I simply meant we drafted a guy who he himself admits has a pretty low ceiling. I’d much prefer we swing for the fences at a boom or bust type than go for a guy who at the very best scenario makes a 3rd pair.

It's hard for a guy like Cleveland to say anything that would please those who don't like the pick. He put a realistic target for himself which shows some self-awareness and a willingness to embrace being a role player. I see no problem with drafting a guy that if he pans out could be one of the more physically imposing players in the NHL and a defensive/PK specialist. That's valuable.

 

[heyfolks]

Yeah I’m a pretty level headed fan. I’m not even going to argue you because I know you’re right. My only disappointment is that judging by the first page plus of posts, the reaction seemed to say we got this one wrong. And absolutely nothing since has suggested those fans and reactions were wrong. But I know it was the same for Bertuzzi and look how that worked out. And I also know that 2nd rounders, despite having this extreme optimism attached to them, actually miss more than hit. I get it honestly.

I am with you, and what follows is not about you (in a negative way) at all.



Well the dumpster fire is pounding that drum loud enough for all (though Norris believes all skills stop developing before puberty LOL). Even if he is the #7 D'man on the National team, he is top 10 for his birth year. Saying he can't play hockey is ludicrous. As for right or wrong, I am with you in the I dunno category.

All I do know is Gniwder doesn't know. I took up for the kid, only after the near instant bagging on him after the pick. I do think his D+1 year was really a bad decision. I have laid that out pretty clearly. In short, the average age of a college hockey player is 23. Less than 35 18 years try and make the cut each year. The guy was a menace in the USHL. He really needed that last year in the League. To make matters worse, Wisconsin imploded while he was there. Ship corrected, he is an every game player on a top ten team.

I can also be put in the I dunno category about Theo Neiderbach, Robert Mastersimone, Antti Tuomisto, Cross Hanas, Shai Buium, Dylan James and others picked around 47.

What I do know is he offers something none of them do. What I also do knows is he is 19 (compare him to the ages of this group) and he won't be 20 until April. If the Wings have this type of player in their system, I haven't read of him. Over the summer, I get the any topic is besten to death discussions, but this pick being wasted within days, heck hours, of the pick, was just too much for me not to comment. He's a 6'5" stay at home, project player who is tough as nails. I will give the guy 3 years of college and two of pro before I spit on him. < That is Buium's career path to date.






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The average age of a college hockey player is 23 years old. However, the average age of a college hockey freshman is between 19 and 20 years old. The average age of a player committing to NCAA Division I men's hockey is 19 years old.



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[heyfolks]

If I didn't love my current profile photo so much , I'd submit a request to Sunny to go back to this one. (FYI - He is President of the fan club.)

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Every time I enter this thread I hope (naively) that there will be some discussion of his play at Colorado this year, and every time I’m proven wrong.

I suppose I’m a hypocrite though because I haven’t watched him play a second of hockey since he was with the NTDP tbf.

 

[newfy]

Players can always be traded. Enforcer types are always available in free agency as well. Look at how many teams Reaves, Maroon, Zadarov, and Gudas have played for.

The second round is way too early to pick a kid with limited potential and only one good attribute. If Draper had picked Oscar Fisker-Molgaard instead, we've be having a positive discussion instead, much like Augustine.

Aside from that, Draper had already picked 2 defensemen in the draft, along with a center and a goalie. A scoring winger would have made sense even from a need perspective. Draper wound up using the first 2 picks the next draft to select wingers, so the need was obviously there.

Look at how many times Reaves has been traded for a first round pick. Those types of guys play for a lot of teams because theyre also sought after

 

[Gniwder]

Look at how many times Reaves has been traded for a first round pick. Those types of guys play for a lot of teams because theyre also sought after

He's also been available as UFA multiple times and has a low salary. Kinda funny how GMs don't plan ahead sometimes.