Proposal: 4 team goalie roulette

[Roshi]

EDM gets Varlamov
NYI get Vanecek
DAL gets Koskinen + EDM 2nd
WAS gets Holtby

assuming Islanders and Stars are out of the playoffs when closing on TDL!

Who says no? Dallas says no?!

Edit. Thought process;

Edmonton gets a starter qualified goalie with some term left for a 2nd, and gets rid of Koskinen.

After unsuccesful campaign Islanders move into Sorokin-era, gaining cap space and semi reliable back-up with cap control.

Dallas move the soon-to-be-ufa Holtby and some cash for 2nd. Koskinen as UFA dont weight much as they dont have to keep him. This is most tricky for me, as im not sure what Holtby can fetch on his own. Maybe Stars want more to take that money in (rougly third of 2,5 millions?, around 800k)?

Caps likes Fucale now as the back up option for future. Vanecek looks to be ending up being the third guy at this point, as he is suffering a bit of a cold scretch. However Fucale is not ready for playoffs games, and as Samsonov isnt a sure thing either, Caps might want to have a more reliable option for Sammy when it comes the time to lose for Penguins in first round. Is Holtby that? Maybe, maybe not.

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[Laus723]

Everyone says no.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Everyone says no.

Edmonton might say yes to that. Varly is at least an upgrade over Koskinen.

 

[Misery74]

Washington says yes..

 

[YP44]

EDM gets Varlamov
NYI get Vanecek
DAL gets Koskinen + EDM 2nd
WAS gets Holtby

assuming Islanders and Stars are out of the playoffs when closing on TDL!

Who says no? Dallas says no?!

I don't think Koskinen and a 2nd gets Varlamov
Dallas makes out like bandits
Washington gets hosed
Unsure of the Islanders. I guess they get cap space which helps.

 

[YP44]

Washington says yes..

Why Vanacek is way better than Holtby at this stage if their careers

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Edmonton is the only team to do this.

All of the others either have someone who can start, or too many goalies already, and there's no reason to add another.

 

[Oddbob]

Why Vanacek is way better than Holtby at this stage if their careers

Might want to give this seasons numbers a look up. Stats are much worse for one of them, guess which one?

 

[TGWL]

Why does Washington lose Vanecek, pay to get him back, and then trade him for Holbty?

 

[Roshi]

Why does Washington lose Vanecek, pay to get him back, and then trade him for Holbty?

Back then Caps needed cap space and a goalie. It was basically Dillon for Vanecek from Caps pov, which made sense at the time.

since then Vaneceks stock has gone a bit down and Fucales stock is rising, and Caps now have the cap room.

You move forward. No point looking back when the world is moving on. (Yeah, i get the irony for that since im trying to bring back dead corpse of Holtby!)

 

[Caps8112]

Why does Washington lose Vanecek, pay to get him back, and then trade him for Holbty?

not entirely sure wash would do this. Vanecek is not a contender starting goalie. Caps are absolutely in win now mode. IMO vanecek is cheap and is an average goalie in this league at best. Is holtby better? maybe idk but he has won before. Samsonov is unreliable. Caps have a goalie issue but not sure if Holtby solves it.

 

[TGWL]

Back then Caps needed cap space and a goalie. It was basically Dillon for Vanecek from Caps pov, which made sense at the time.

since then Vaneceks stock has gone a bit down and Fucales stock is rising, and Caps now have the cap room.

You move forward. No point looking back when the world is moving on. (Yeah, i get the irony for that since im trying to bring back dead corpse of Holtby!)

But this isn't moving forward. Yes, it made sense for Washington then, it doesn't make sense for them now.

 

[Jerkbait]

EDM gets Varlamov
NYI get Vanecek
DAL gets Koskinen + EDM 2nd
WAS gets Holtby

assuming Islanders and Stars are out of the playoffs when closing on TDL!

Who says no? Dallas says no?!

Edit. Thought process;

Edmonton gets a starter qualified goalie with some term left for a 2nd, and gets rid of Koskinen.

After unsuccesful campaign Islanders move into Sorokin-era, gaining cap space and semi reliable back-up with cap control.

Dallas move the soon-to-be-ufa Holtby and some cash for 2nd. Koskinen as UFA dont weight much as they dont have to keep him. This is most tricky for me, as im not sure what Holtby can fetch on his own. Maybe Stars want more to take that money in (rougly third of 2,5 millions?, around 800k)?

Caps likes Fucale now as the back up option for future. Vanecek looks to be ending up being the third guy at this point, as he is suffering a bit of a cold scretch. However Fucale is not ready for playoffs games, and as Samsonov isnt a sure thing either, Caps might want to have a more reliable option for Sammy when it comes the time to lose for Penguins in first round. Is Holtby that? Maybe, maybe not.

They all day NO lol...Edmonton is the only team that does this

 

[SherVaughn30]

Why Vanacek is way better than Holtby at this stage if their careers

Not even close. VV is garbage right now and not even playing at a NHL Backup Goalie level! Holtby is regaining some of his top form and VV is getting exposed as his rebound control is atrocious. I'm not sure you been watching either goalie closely or at all?

 

[SherVaughn30]

Why does Washington lose Vanecek, pay to get him back, and then trade him for Holbty?

Trading a 2nd round pick to get back VV was a big mistake. His 21 wins last season were only against 7 Metro teams. This season he isn't looking too good with only 6 wins in 15 decisions(6-4-5). The Caps overvalued VV and it's becoming very apparent he's not as good as he was last season. He looks lost against teams he didn't face last season.

 

[Chardo]

If Islanders choose to move Varlamov, they will get a 1st. Then they can acquire Vanacek or some other backup rather cheaply.

 

[GossomeRwing]

I think it might be a mistake to say Vanecek is garbage I would say he has played decent
The caps blueliners have left all their goalies out to dry numerous times this season

I was a big Holtby guy, but he is not the answer the Caps need to upgrade in many areas
This team is loaded with talented players, but there is no way they will contend for the cup this season
I hope they do not waste any assets in an attempt to bring in a Vet goaltender

The Cap are an older team which struggles with fast teams
The Caps are at the top of the salary cap
It might be time for a re-tooling
trade some of their highly paid players to teams with GMs who are suffering from Playoff craze
maximum the value of some declining assets

 

[StephenPeat]

not entirely sure wash would do this. Vanecek is not a contender starting goalie. Caps are absolutely in win now mode. IMO vanecek is cheap and is an average goalie in this league at best. Is holtby better? maybe idk but he has won before. Samsonov is unreliable. Caps have a goalie issue but not sure if Holtby solves it.

Samsonov is not exactly unreliable, the NHL Schedule Maker is unreliable.

The Caps play 3 in 4 nights and then don’t play again for like a month. How is anybody on the team supposed to develop any consistency?

 

[Caps8112]

I think it might be a mistake to say Vanecek is garbage I would say he has played decent
The caps blueliners have left all their goalies out to dry numerous times this season

I was a big Holtby guy, but he is not the answer the Caps need to upgrade in many areas
This team is loaded with talented players, but there is no way they will contend for the cup this season
I hope they do not waste any assets in an attempt to bring in a Vet goaltender

The Cap are an older team which struggles with fast teams
The Caps are at the top of the salary cap
It might be time for a re-tooling
trade some of their highly paid players to teams with GMs who are suffering from Playoff craze
maximum the value of some declining assets

while you may be right the GMBM is not going to punt a season where the caps are a few points out of 1st place with the playoffs around the corner. Trading any of Kuzy, Oshie, or any other big name would be indefensible in the media. If you are right they will bow out early again this year.

 

[Caps8112]

Samsonov is not exactly unreliable, the NHL Schedule Maker is unreliable.

The Caps play 3 in 4 nights and then don’t play again for like a month. How is anybody on the team supposed to develop any consistency?

can agree with that but Sammy always seems to have a lapse or brain fart each game. The talent is clearly there but the focus seems off which could stem from what you said.

 

[Dr Pepper]

I would definitely get a chuckle out of Dallas continuing to add to their collection of Finns.

 

[ManofSteel55]

They all day NO lol...Edmonton is the only team that does this

Why would Dallas say no? Dallas gets a pick for a UFA goalie here. Surely nobody expects them to get a 1st for Holtby.

 

[miscs75]

The only team that would do this is Edmonton. The Islanders and Washington aren’t trading within division (unless it’s NYI-NJD), forget the rest of the deal.

 

[Jerkbait]

Why would Dallas say no? Dallas gets a pick for a UFA goalie here. Surely nobody expects them to get a 1st for Holtby.

Simple answer is Dallas still needs capable goaltending. The pick isn't enough to offset.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Simple answer is Dallas still needs capable goaltending. The pick isn't enough to offset.

I suppose if they feel they are still in the playoff hunt, then that makes sense. And they probably should, its too early to sell off for the teams still in the mix.