If Hague can replace Tryamkin I think Benning has to take him at 33
Benning said that they are set on the wings with the Boesers, Goldobins, Baertschi's and Granlunds.
I'm curious as to why a guy like Ratcliffe, who I saw ranked as highly as 13 on some sites, hasn't been taken yet... but I feel like he doesn't have the profile of what Benning et. al will be looking for at 33.
Take this for what it's worth Vancouver had him ranked very very low at mid terms.
I am hoping we pick up offensive dman p o Jospeh.
Because the SHL is allowed to dress 20 players, it screws over a lot of junior players stats because they could play 2 shifts and that counts as a game for them. Like Boqvist, if you go through his gamelog, 5 of the 16 regular season games, he plays less than 2 minutes and in one he was dressed but didn't play a shift, but it counted against him. 6 points in 11 games is a much different stat that 6 in 16. So i like to go through the game logs to recalculate.From Timra too. Did he play on a line with Pettersson and Dahlen? 6 points in 16 SHL games is pretty good for a guy that young, most player that age don't get much ice time in the SHL.
Would prefer Hague but Boqvist looks intriguing. Would drive the anti-soft Swede all tuffness crowd nuts
Lol said the same thing in another thread. How's his skating?
Nic Hague?
I'd say his skating projects as potentially better than Tryamkin's. But then, i don't think Tryamkin's skating was anywhere near as phenomenal as it was often touted to be around here.
Hague seems like a guy who is still really growing into himself in a lot of respects. The skating is quite good for a guy with that sort of frame. But it's also a bit tangled up at times, like a guy with too much limbs. Particularly when he's forced to react at speed to unpredictable situations. Sometimes seems to end up moving in too many directions at once.
I'm not really sure what he is as a defenceman either though. Shades of Jamie Oleksiak to him for me. Sort of an offensive defenceman trapped in a steady defensive defenceman's body at times. But there's a lot of upside there if he does grow into things and figure out exactly what he is, and retains some of that offensive element...with a bit more restraint and a steadier defensive game.
He's an underrated trigger man from the point too. He's got a few different shots he uses really effectively. He's not a PPQB, but he could be a real asset on a powerplay like Edler/Garrison or more aptly, Salo once upon a time.
I'm curious as to why a guy like Ratcliffe, who I saw ranked as highly as 13 on some sites, hasn't been taken yet... but I feel like he doesn't have the profile of what Benning et. al will be looking for at 33.
My BPA is Hague. Option 2 is Lind. Open to Boqvist, Ikonen, Timmins, Robertson.
Hague is a better player than Logan Stanley, really strange how one is a mid 1st rounder and Hague is left waiting. Hague has offense that Stanley would dream about. He is a knock kneed skater. Thats the main knock. Though Stanley doesn't move that well either.
Ratcliffe is like the most tallest of mystery boxes.
Yeah. It's weird to me as well. I think Hague is pretty solidly a better prospect with more upside than Stanley. Heck, side by side at the U18s last year, i thought Hague looked better as a the underager.
Stanley does have more of that prototypical big mean shutdown defender streak to him though, i guess. But the offensive upside is much much higher with Hague, even just as a PP triggerman, if nothing else. If he really figures out how to balance things, there's a lot more upside there.
At the same time though, that's the draft. It only takes one. Hague could've been 2nd on every team's list from 15 on or whatever...That still wouldn't get him picked. They don't give out crooked logo jerseys on stage for 2nd on a team's list.
Just weird to see that sort of size in a defenceman who gets around the ice pretty darn reasonably well (which teams often go gaga over eg. Logan Stanley) as a bit of a "slider".
Especially considering a guy like Callan Foote, whom I consider a very comparable prospect outside of his bloodline, went in the top half of the first round.
Ratcliffe is a guy I wouldn't take in the first 4 rounds. The sort of player who busts 19 times out of 20.
I see Callan Foote as a much "smarter" defenceman. A lot more situated in what he can do, and he does it well...but very little else. Doesn't have the same "adventures". But that seemed like a real over-draft to me, for a guy with those sort of mobility limitations.
My BPA is Hague. Option 2 is Lind. Open to Boqvist, Ikonen, Timmins, Robertson.
Hague is a better player than Logan Stanley, really strange how one is a mid 1st rounder and Hague is left waiting. Hague has offense that Stanley would dream about. He is a knock kneed skater. Thats the main knock. Though Stanley doesn't move that well either.
Because the SHL is allowed to dress 20 players, it screws over a lot of junior players stats because they could play 2 shifts and that counts as a game for them. Like Boqvist, if you go through his gamelog, 5 of the 16 regular season games, he plays less than 2 minutes and in one he was dressed but didn't play a shift, but it counted against him. 6 points in 11 games is a much different stat that 6 in 16. So i like to go through the game logs to recalculate.
I have no idea how Stanley was picked so early. Oh wait, he's 6'7''...
Thing on Hague though is that if he improves his skating he would be the best d-man in the draft. Monster shot, huge wing-span, quite a good knack for pinching.