Pyrophorus
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- Matthews-McDavid-MacKinnon - Two speed demons with Matthews choking probably giving up the puck, so nah.
What evidence do you have that this has happened once?
The truth is, he'll be the trigger man at 1st.
- Matthews-McDavid-MacKinnon - Two speed demons with Matthews choking probably giving up the puck, so nah.
What evidence do you have that this has happened once?
The truth is, he'll be the trigger man at 1st.
The Ovechkin trio has 22 goals combined in 3-on-3 OT since its inception
They should easily be winning this poll. MacK isn’t good in 3on3
To me what matters most are results, and the second trio have absolutely torched the 3-on-3 OT system. With the puck, they're practically impossible to get the puck off of. Their peak possession stats (especially OV) are video-game like.Malkin isn't good at 3 on 3 either. I write that as a Pens fan.
As much as anything, 3 on 3 hockey is about playing smart without the puck. Especially defensively.
For group 1, Mac is a relatively weak link, at least according to you. Killer trio with the puck. Not so much without it. Close 2nd best trio with the puck and 2nd best without it.
For group 2, Malkin is a relatively weak link (and I'm not exactly enamored with Ovy's defensive game 3 on 3). IMHO the 3rd best trio with the puck and the 3rd best without it.
For group 3, IMHO they're the best with the puck. Love that first groups speed, but I'll go this group by a hair offensively. Defensively? The worst of the lot.
Group 4? Worst with the puck and best without it defensively.
Man, this is tough.
Me? Group 1 by a hair, then group3, group 4, and group 2 in that order.
He's been the trigger man for the Leafs and how far has that brought them when it counts the most? not even 4 wins every year.
OV, Crosby, Malkin. Not close either.
-3 of the 4 best players (Jagr)
-only trio in which each player has a ross, hart, lindsay and smythe
-only trio with a rocket winner (2/3)
-only trio in which each player has come top 10 in goals and assists in the same season (multiple times for each player)
Clearly the best offensive trio, by a country mile. Not sure if people's memory is fuzzy, but peak OV and Crosby were excellent skaters. OV brings goals, assists, speed, skill and physicality (200+ hits a season). Crosby brings goals, assists, speed, skill and 2 way play. Malkin brings goals, assists, skill and the most game breaking ability of anyone listed. Easy choice.
Malkin isn't good at 3 on 3 either. I write that as a Pens fan.
As much as anything, 3 on 3 hockey is about playing smart without the puck. Especially defensively.
For group 1, Mac is a relatively weak link, at least according to you. Killer trio with the puck. Not so much without it. Close 2nd best trio with the puck and 2nd best without it.
For group 2, Malkin is a relatively weak link (and I'm not exactly enamored with Ovy's defensive game 3 on 3). IMHO the 3rd best trio with the puck and the 3rd best without it.
For group 3, IMHO they're the best with the puck. Love that first groups speed, but I'll go this group by a hair offensively. Defensively? The worst of the lot.
Group 4? Worst with the puck and best without it defensively.
Man, this is tough.
Me? Group 1 by a hair, then group3, group 4, and group 2 in that order.
I forgot we have 3vs3 in the playoffs.
Keep moving the goalposts, even if its not the topic.
6pts in 5g, these playoffs
6pts in 7g, last playoffs...he's doing his job.
To me what matters most are results, and the second trio have absolutely torched the 3-on-3 OT system. With the puck, they're practically impossible to get the puck off of. Their peak possession stats (especially OV) are video-game like.
The best defense is offense
I gotta go with the Lindros line. Just way too physically dominant.
I get the feeling you haven't watched Bure. There's a lot of question. Tons.
When a guy's 'thing' is to take the puck behind his own net and go end to end, he's a pretty good skater. The shear number of breakaways Bure would get because of his speed, was ridiculous. And this is the in days of no two-line passes. What Bure did with the puck at top speed made entire lines look silly.
You think Forsberg-Lindros-Jagr would be the worst group without the puck? Am I reading this right? They are easily 2nd best here in that regard.
No, I don't you're reading what I meant right, although the fault is with me for not using the phrase 'without the puck' consistently in my post . . .
For group 3, IMHO they're the best with the puck. Love that first groups speed, but I'll go this group by a hair offensively. Defensively? The worst of the lot.
Thing is, the phrase 'without the puck' can refer to offensively or defensively. For at least one of the groups, I think group 4, I used it to refer to both. BUT, for the Forsberg-Lindros-Jagr group, I specifically said their defense was the worst of the four options but in saying they're the best offensively I intended to imply that included without the puck (I preferred their possession game upon gaining entry to group 1's speed game).
BUT, it was that line without the puck defensively only that is why I picked group 1 first.
Apologies for the imprecise language.
Matthews also had 5 points in six games against Washington in the 2017 playoffs.I forgot we have 3vs3 in the playoffs.
Keep moving the goalposts, even if its not the topic.
6pts in 5g, these playoffs
6pts in 7g, last playoffs...he's doing his job.
Here is an example of Matthews shot in overtime playing 3v3.
It reminds me of Joe Sakic's wrist shot.Such a beautiful wrist shot he has.