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BigGoalBrad said:
Multi millionaire athletes in their 20s acting like retired folks on the golf course bothers me when they can't be traded.

NHL wants to lock them out until no contracts are guaranteed and there are no NMCs I'd be ok with it.
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Why not just stop handing them out ? There's nothing saying you have to give them to players.
 
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USA Today's Mike Brehm didn't explicitly say Nelson would be dealt at the trade deadline. If Nelson hits the trade block, though, Brehm predicted he'd be one of the most popular names available.

"USA Olympian Brock Nelson, who topped 30 goals his previous three seasons but is off that pace this season, would be one of the NHL's top trade targets if general manager Lou Lamoriello shops the pending UFA," Brehm wrote.

"Nelson, 33, is in the final season of his contract on a struggling Islanders club. If the Islanders are unable to turn things around and Nelson does not have an extension later in the year, we could see him become available near the deadline. If he is, the Bruins would be wise to make a push for him," DeRosa wrote in November.

If the Bruins have last-second ambitions of extending their eight-year playoff streak to nine, Boston could be a potential landing spot for Nelson according to the Hockey News's Michael DeRosa.

"In a potential move, the Bruins would likely need the Islanders to retain a portion of Nelson's salary and send at least one of their NHL players with other assets to New York."

The Bruins are expected to be cautious at the trade deadline after Charlie McAvoy and Hampus Lindholm suffered injuries.
 
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JoeIsAStud said:
They give Lohrei a chance, because while he may be trick or treat out there you see that there are clear NHL skills. He is clearly the best PP QB and best offensive defenseman they have, and it's not even close

They've given Merkulov looks, and he has shown nothing other than he can't play Center at this level. Maybe he'll get a longer look, but he looks like a classic 4A player

Lysell hasn't shown any consistency at the AHL level, and honestly his offense is highly overrated on the board, his offensive upside seems like maybe Connor Garland if everything goes well
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I agree Merkolov, has not shown me much, and there are a lot of questions about Lysell, but I think they should be brought up and show all the bring up the kids choir, that they really are not that good and get it over with.
 
Gee Wally said:
Because it only takes 1 GM.
Once that happens you dont get players to re- sign or come as a FA.

Its not plausible unless negotiated out. Quid pro quo.
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True and it would end up in a players strike, Im sure if they ever did. Its a perk for them, after all they are the ones who bring in the money.
 
BigGoalBrad said:
Multi millionaire athletes in their 20s acting like retired folks on the golf course bothers me when they can't be traded.

NHL wants to lock them out until no contracts are guaranteed and there are no NMCs I'd be ok with it.
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Money makes very little difference when you consider the situation right? These are people with families. They have lives outside of playing a game for our entertainment.

While I understand it’s a business, I can completely respect a player wanting some form of protection in where he is going. Say you’re from Sweden playing in New York. They want to trade you to Los Angeles. A flight home to Sweden just tripled and you’re that much farther from your family. That sound appealing to you? Or would you use that protection and say no?

Also it takes two to tango with contract negotiations. A GM gives a player a NTC/NMC can’t play the victim card when a player chooses to use it.
 
Gee Wally said:
Meh…..


USA Today's Mike Brehm didn't explicitly say Nelson would be dealt at the trade deadline. If Nelson hits the trade block, though, Brehm predicted he'd be one of the most popular names available.

"USA Olympian Brock Nelson, who topped 30 goals his previous three seasons but is off that pace this season, would be one of the NHL's top trade targets if general manager Lou Lamoriello shops the pending UFA," Brehm wrote.

"Nelson, 33, is in the final season of his contract on a struggling Islanders club. If the Islanders are unable to turn things around and Nelson does not have an extension later in the year, we could see him become available near the deadline. If he is, the Bruins would be wise to make a push for him," DeRosa wrote in November.

If the Bruins have last-second ambitions of extending their eight-year playoff streak to nine, Boston could be a potential landing spot for Nelson according to the Hockey News's Michael DeRosa.

"In a potential move, the Bruins would likely need the Islanders to retain a portion of Nelson's salary and send at least one of their NHL players with other assets to New York."

The Bruins are expected to be cautious at the trade deadline after Charlie McAvoy and Hampus Lindholm suffered injuries.
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No to Brock Nelson. 33 years old. On the downslide of his career. I would not give up a 1st round pick for him. It would be a huge mistake, since the Bruins are in a top 15 draft slot if they don't make the playoffs. No no no no no!
 
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Gee Wally said:
Meh…..


USA Today's Mike Brehm didn't explicitly say Nelson would be dealt at the trade deadline. If Nelson hits the trade block, though, Brehm predicted he'd be one of the most popular names available.

"USA Olympian Brock Nelson, who topped 30 goals his previous three seasons but is off that pace this season, would be one of the NHL's top trade targets if general manager Lou Lamoriello shops the pending UFA," Brehm wrote.

"Nelson, 33, is in the final season of his contract on a struggling Islanders club. If the Islanders are unable to turn things around and Nelson does not have an extension later in the year, we could see him become available near the deadline. If he is, the Bruins would be wise to make a push for him," DeRosa wrote in November.

If the Bruins have last-second ambitions of extending their eight-year playoff streak to nine, Boston could be a potential landing spot for Nelson according to the Hockey News's Michael DeRosa.

"In a potential move, the Bruins would likely need the Islanders to retain a portion of Nelson's salary and send at least one of their NHL players with other assets to New York."

The Bruins are expected to be cautious at the trade deadline after Charlie McAvoy and Hampus Lindholm suffered injuries.
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Big time pass on this. If thats this management teams goal is to extend their consecutive playoff streak by jeopardizing their future even more. Good riddance and don't let the door hit you in the @SS on the way out. I feel DeRosa is way off on his line of thinking on this one.
 
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DiggityDog said:
Money makes very little difference when you consider the situation right? These are people with families. They have lives outside of playing a game for our entertainment.

While I understand it’s a business, I can completely respect a player wanting some form of protection in where he is going. Say you’re from Sweden playing in New York. They want to trade you to Los Angeles. A flight home to Sweden just tripled and you’re that much farther from your family. That sound appealing to you? Or would you use that protection and say no?

Also it takes two to tango with contract negotiations. A GM gives a player a NTC/NMC can’t play the victim card when a player chooses to use it.
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It's an upper class fringe sport with no diversity and a higher cost to entry by far than anything else team based.

I don't think the guys at the pinnacle deserve that much control over where they play for their careers if they don't like it there is always the KHL. Play better if you don't want to be traded.

Just look at the ESPN ratings for regular season games.
 
The don godfather said:
Were stuck with him. Hopefully he has a bounce back next year.
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Bruin4 said:
I think it’s getting close to the time you start seeing some healthy scratches around the league. There’s a few Bruins I wouldn’t mind seeing scratched,but dam they really don’t have much to offer up for other team, unless they plan on moving a Coyle, Carlo, Geekie or Marchand.

Looking like to me that this teams big move will be trading TFred for a 2nd and a prospect who’ll help providence out for the next 4-5 years. Not much happening the way I see it.☹️
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Sorry but if Trent was healthy his poor showing this year would maybe get them a 2nd rounder. Now? If he doesn't come back and is still "week to week" IMO a 4th rounder is it. I can't imagine a "2nd and a prospect" now, maybe not even before the injury.
 
JoeIsAStud said:
They give Lohrei a chance, because while he may be trick or treat out there you see that there are clear NHL skills. He is clearly the best PP QB and best offensive defenseman they have, and it's not even close

They've given Merkulov looks, and he has shown nothing other than he can't play Center at this level. Maybe he'll get a longer look, but he looks like a classic 4A player

Lysell hasn't shown any consistency at the AHL level, and honestly his offense is highly overrated on the board, his offensive upside seems like maybe Connor Garland if everything goes well
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The issue I have is they gave Merk/Lysell 3 and 1 games respectively, while they just let Wahlstrom skate around for 16 games before deciding he is what he is. Why are they so much harder on their homegrown guys vs a guy who was literally given away for free?

Gee Wally said:
Meh…..


USA Today's Mike Brehm didn't explicitly say Nelson would be dealt at the trade deadline. If Nelson hits the trade block, though, Brehm predicted he'd be one of the most popular names available.

"USA Olympian Brock Nelson, who topped 30 goals his previous three seasons but is off that pace this season, would be one of the NHL's top trade targets if general manager Lou Lamoriello shops the pending UFA," Brehm wrote.

"Nelson, 33, is in the final season of his contract on a struggling Islanders club. If the Islanders are unable to turn things around and Nelson does not have an extension later in the year, we could see him become available near the deadline. If he is, the Bruins would be wise to make a push for him," DeRosa wrote in November.

If the Bruins have last-second ambitions of extending their eight-year playoff streak to nine, Boston could be a potential landing spot for Nelson according to the Hockey News's Michael DeRosa.

"In a potential move, the Bruins would likely need the Islanders to retain a portion of Nelson's salary and send at least one of their NHL players with other assets to New York."

The Bruins are expected to be cautious at the trade deadline after Charlie McAvoy and Hampus Lindholm suffered injuries.
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Just.....why?
 
BigGoalBrad said:
It's an upper class fringe sport with no diversity and a higher cost to entry by far than anything else team based.

I don't think the guys at the pinnacle deserve that much control over where they play for their careers
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Has nothing to do with what anyone deserves. Players gaining guaranteed contracts and movement control is simple economics.
 
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Deal Law said:
This is going to come off as me being an asshole, but that is not at all my intention.

Patrick Brown has played 13 games over the prior two years for the Bruins. His line over this period: 0-1-1 +/- -4 PIM 4. There is no way calling up Patrick Brown is accretive to winning.

It's clear I have a different definition of "trying to win" than the front office, but Merk/Lysell/Farinacci all have some level of ceiling above those of Brown/Tufte/Jones/ et al., whereas those players have low floors and ceilings.

This is also a team that has given an extended leash and very patient look to Mason Lohrei while he literally learns to be an NHL defenseman on the job (which I am all for). Admittedly, some of that was due to injury, but I would expect a similar level of rope to be given to one of these young forwards, all with some level of promise.
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It's a possibility that this is a soft tank. Keep the best prospects down on the farm, let the team fester since they aren't going anywhere. Trade whoever/whatever for whoever/whatever, draft as well as they can, clean out behind the bench with a new look coaching staff. Even if they keep 5-6 players of the current team, 12-16 new players would be somewhere between a retool and a rebuild.
 
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Gee Wally said:
Meh…..


USA Today's Mike Brehm didn't explicitly say Nelson would be dealt at the trade deadline. If Nelson hits the trade block, though, Brehm predicted he'd be one of the most popular names available.

"USA Olympian Brock Nelson, who topped 30 goals his previous three seasons but is off that pace this season, would be one of the NHL's top trade targets if general manager Lou Lamoriello shops the pending UFA," Brehm wrote.

"Nelson, 33, is in the final season of his contract on a struggling Islanders club. If the Islanders are unable to turn things around and Nelson does not have an extension later in the year, we could see him become available near the deadline. If he is, the Bruins would be wise to make a push for him," DeRosa wrote in November.

If the Bruins have last-second ambitions of extending their eight-year playoff streak to nine, Boston could be a potential landing spot for Nelson according to the Hockey News's Michael DeRosa.

"In a potential move, the Bruins would likely need the Islanders to retain a portion of Nelson's salary and send at least one of their NHL players with other assets to New York."

The Bruins are expected to be cautious at the trade deadline after Charlie McAvoy and Hampus Lindholm suffered injuries.
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Does Michael DeRosa like to sniff glue or something?
 
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