Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XVII

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I just don't see the point in continuing to allow any of the young guys to fester in Providence for the sake of Brown/Wahlstrom/Tufte/Jones/Viel/Pitlick. They cannot possible be any less productive than those players. We're already losing with those players. Is the fear that they come up, look like shit and tank any value they may have had? Well, they're not improving their value by playing in Providence and not showing whether they are NHL-ready.

I just don't get what there is to lose at this point. Why, at the very least, can Wahlstrom or Tufte (or both) not be waived to get one or two of these kids up in Boston, even if you don't have deals lined up to move out the pending UFAs?

I get it, but at the same time when you are trying to win games someone like Brown probably is a better option.

These players are also not hurting their trade value by being protected in Providence rather than possibly exposed in the NHL level..

I am sure in Wahlstrom case they are hoping that his second year after injury can be better, but hard to get him to there.

I will assume that changes will happen after the deadline. One would hope that if they can't find someone to take Brazeau they will waive him, he has been so awful in 2025, i can't image there is a team that would give a late pick for him. But he needs to be gone
 
I would love to retain Geekie and Zacha but at the end of the day, neither should be playing on a 1st line with Pasta.

Pasta is a f***ing 55-60 goals a year guy with the right centermen. That's not Geekie and Zacha. Pasta more than not is playing playmaker on that line and setting Geekie up for backdoor tap ins.

Keep one of Geekie/Zacha as the LW and go get a center thats going help Pasta put up 110-120 points, while putting up 70-80 themselves. If the LW on that top line hits 50 points, I'd be happy. But having the LW and C be 40 point guys does not drive enough offence.

Lindholm sure as shit needs to be the 2C next season. We're paying him accordingly to do so.

Does Carlo+Freddy+Lysell get you Byfield?
 
I would love to retain Geekie and Zacha but at the end of the day, neither should be playing on a 1st line with Pasta.

Pasta is a f***ing 55-60 goals a year guy with the right centermen. That's not Geekie and Zacha. Pasta more than not is playing playmaker on that line and setting Geekie up for backdoor tap ins.

Keep one of Geekie/Zacha as the LW and go get a center thats going help Pasta put up 110-120 points, while putting up 70-80 themselves. If the LW on that top line hits 50 points, I'd be happy. But having the LW and C be 40 point guys does not drive enough offence.

Lindholm sure as shit needs to be the 2C next season. We're paying him accordingly to do so.

Does Carlo+Freddy+Lysell get you Byfield?
Great idea. I like thought of packaging one of Geekie or Zacha in a deal to go out and get a true top liner.
 
Sounds like Vancouver wants a 1st + "NHL ready prospects" for Boeser. Anyone interested in doing 2026 1st + Lysell (+ another small add if VAN is looking for a sweetener) for Boeser.

Geekie - Zacha - Pastrnak
Marchand - Lindholm - Boeser
(TBD) - Poitras - Coyle
 
Sounds like Vancouver wants a 1st + "NHL ready prospects" for Boeser. Anyone interested in doing 2026 1st + Lysell (+ another small add if VAN is looking for a sweetener) for Boeser.

Geekie - Zacha - Pastrnak
Marchand - Lindholm - Boeser
(TBD) - Poitras - Coyle
That’s too much. Boeser is a huge gamble. He is a free agent. He is over paid. Lysell and a first for maybe 5-10 goals. Not even close to worth it.
 
Sounds like Vancouver wants a 1st + "NHL ready prospects" for Boeser. Anyone interested in doing 2026 1st + Lysell (+ another small add if VAN is looking for a sweetener) for Boeser.

Geekie - Zacha - Pastrnak
Marchand - Lindholm - Boeser
(TBD) - Poitras - Coyle
Not at all. We shouldn’t be buying like that right now on UFAs. We need to keep the cupboard stocked, and it’s already low so our 1st and Lysell have primo value to us. Other trade chips would be a different story. Boeser might not resign with us if we trade, but he also could easily be available July 1 “for free”. Best to wait on moving our picks or prospects unless you are looking at someone a little more surefire/talented/younger/true top line. That said, I hope we grab him in the summer, and I think he could do well opposite of Pasta.
 
I get it, but at the same time when you are trying to win games someone like Brown probably is a better option.

These players are also not hurting their trade value by being protected in Providence rather than possibly exposed in the NHL level..

I am sure in Wahlstrom case they are hoping that his second year after injury can be better, but hard to get him to there.

I will assume that changes will happen after the deadline. One would hope that if they can't find someone to take Brazeau they will waive him, he has been so awful in 2025, i can't image there is a team that would give a late pick for him. But he needs to be gone
This is going to come off as me being an asshole, but that is not at all my intention.

Patrick Brown has played 13 games over the prior two years for the Bruins. His line over this period: 0-1-1 +/- -4 PIM 4. There is no way calling up Patrick Brown is accretive to winning.

It's clear I have a different definition of "trying to win" than the front office, but Merk/Lysell/Farinacci all have some level of ceiling above those of Brown/Tufte/Jones/ et al., whereas those players have low floors and ceilings.

This is also a team that has given an extended leash and very patient look to Mason Lohrei while he literally learns to be an NHL defenseman on the job (which I am all for). Admittedly, some of that was due to injury, but I would expect a similar level of rope to be given to one of these young forwards, all with some level of promise.
 
That’s too much. Boeser is a huge gamble. He is a free agent. He is over paid. Lysell and a first for maybe 5-10 goals. Not even close to worth it.
Stunned to find his stats extremely underwhelming. Had expected far more of his career. Yet to play 82 games in any season, major durability concerns.

Pass. Similar to Bennett. Pass.
 
Sounds like Vancouver wants a 1st + "NHL ready prospects" for Boeser. Anyone interested in doing 2026 1st + Lysell (+ another small add if VAN is looking for a sweetener) for Boeser.

Geekie - Zacha - Pastrnak
Marchand - Lindholm - Boeser
(TBD) - Poitras - Coyle
If they really wanted the player I would rather they pursue him in free agency.
 
Sounds like Vancouver wants a 1st + "NHL ready prospects" for Boeser. Anyone interested in doing 2026 1st + Lysell (+ another small add if VAN is looking for a sweetener) for Boeser.

Geekie - Zacha - Pastrnak
Marchand - Lindholm - Boeser
(TBD) - Poitras - Coyle
He's a pending UFA who will more than likely if he doesn't re-up with nucks, is heading to Minnesota.
 
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This is going to come off as me being an asshole, but that is not at all my intention.

Patrick Brown has played 13 games over the prior two years for the Bruins. His line over this period: 0-1-1 +/- -4 PIM 4. There is no way calling up Patrick Brown is accretive to winning.

It's clear I have a different definition of "trying to win" than the front office, but Merk/Lysell/Farinacci all have some level of ceiling above those of Brown/Tufte/Jones/ et al., whereas those players have low floors and ceilings.

This is also a team that has given an extended leash and very patient look to Mason Lohrei while he literally learns to be an NHL defenseman on the job (which I am all for). Admittedly, some of that was due to injury, but I would expect a similar level of rope to be given to one of these young forwards, all with some level of promise.


So so true

The infatuation with career AHLers like Brown is beyond frustrating

not only are they not accretive to winning they are actually are subtraction by addition:
-they get 6-7 minutes of ice time, meaning the Bs play with a short bench most of the game
-when they do hit the ice it's dump it in, short shift and change, hoping to do no harm..and in doing so having little to any impact
-real forward prospects in Providence ( of which there are several) shake their heads and wonder why they should bother since the call-ups have no correlation to potential

And so it goes
 
Sounds like Vancouver wants a 1st + "NHL ready prospects" for Boeser. Anyone interested in doing 2026 1st + Lysell (+ another small add if VAN is looking for a sweetener) for Boeser.

Geekie - Zacha - Pastrnak
Marchand - Lindholm - Boeser
(TBD) - Poitras - Coyle
no
 
Why is coyles contract bad? No reason to take back salary. It’s like 5 mil no? Is there a better contract for a player his age? He is pretty effective still. Not as good as the first year the bruins got him but he still putting up points and he is hard to play against. Zacha is far better I agree. zacha is on what I consider one of the best contracts in the nhl. Coyle isn’t underpaid and he isn’t overpaid.
Just curious here.Coyle scored 25 last year and don't play next to Pastrnak at all so why can't Zacha score even 20? Not saying anyone is better was just wondering why he cant score goals .
 
This is going to come off as me being an asshole, but that is not at all my intention.

Patrick Brown has played 13 games over the prior two years for the Bruins. His line over this period: 0-1-1 +/- -4 PIM 4. There is no way calling up Patrick Brown is accretive to winning.

It's clear I have a different definition of "trying to win" than the front office, but Merk/Lysell/Farinacci all have some level of ceiling above those of Brown/Tufte/Jones/ et al., whereas those players have low floors and ceilings.

This is also a team that has given an extended leash and very patient look to Mason Lohrei while he literally learns to be an NHL defenseman on the job (which I am all for). Admittedly, some of that was due to injury, but I would expect a similar level of rope to be given to one of these young forwards, all with some level of promise.

They give Lohrei a chance, because while he may be trick or treat out there you see that there are clear NHL skills. He is clearly the best PP QB and best offensive defenseman they have, and it's not even close

They've given Merkulov looks, and he has shown nothing other than he can't play Center at this level. Maybe he'll get a longer look, but he looks like a classic 4A player

Lysell hasn't shown any consistency at the AHL level, and honestly his offense is highly overrated on the board, his offensive upside seems like maybe Connor Garland if everything goes well
 

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