WJC: 2025 Team Canada Roster Talk

Knave

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There's a lot of questions to be asked on who got left off the roster but there's also some on how the roster is being used.

Martone and Rehkopf have both been fantastic together and one is scratched while the other barely plays. How isn't this a line?

I agree coaching has been lackluster but in short-form tournaments I think the bulk of blame can be put at the roster selection and who picked these players especially with the nearly dozen glaring omissions.

Your criticism of how Martone and Rehkopf are used isn't about how they are used but that they aren't used. And to me that's similar to "well they didn't pick __________" rather than Dave Cameron using a player in the wrong role like he does with Bonk.

Two lackluster performances for anyone not scoreboard watching. If this was the Stanley Cup playoffs I'd be more understanding but a short form tournament? And Hockey Canada thinks this is the roster for it? Lol.
 

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There's a lot of questions to be asked on who got left off the roster but there's also some on how the roster is being used.

Martone and Rehkopf have both been fantastic together and one is scratched while the other barely plays. How isn't this a line?


Parekh / Misa are probably not getting a call after liking that IG post.

It's petty but I'd be stunned if they get a look now.
there will be a uproar if there not invited lol especially if they dont win a medal this year
 

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As fans we have legitimate gripes about player selection, etc, I get it, but at this point it's now redundant for us to go on ad nauseam about it, the players here are the players here and we have no choice but to do the best with what we have or just put our heads in our hands, endlessly complain and go " woe is me" and just give up.

The choice is ours, let's make the right one. But to see some of our fans actively cheer against our team, well..........................that's out of line.

I am as mad as a hatter at them, but no, you never cheer against them. I hope USA trounces Latvia so that it wakes them up and they realize they lost to Latvia and ought to be ashamed of themselves. Even as much as I despise Cameron even to look at him (my nostrils flare even just thinking about 2011 and him) I still want them to win gold. I just wonder how teenagers can come back from this level of embarrassment. If you lost an arm wrestle to your little and skinnier sister would you be motivated to do it again? It will be hard.

There's a lot of questions to be asked on who got left off the roster but there's also some on how the roster is being used.

Martone and Rehkopf have both been fantastic together and one is scratched while the other barely plays. How isn't this a line?


Parekh / Misa are probably not getting a call after liking that IG post.

It's petty but I'd be stunned if they get a look now.

What IG post?
 
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I am as mad as a hatter at them, but no, you never cheer against them. I hope USA trounces Latvia so that it wakes them up and they realize they lost to Latvia and ought to be ashamed of themselves. Even as much as I despise Cameron even to look at him (my nostrils flare even just thinking about 2011 and him) I still want them to win gold. I just wonder how teenagers can come back from this level of embarrassment. If you lost an arm wrestle to your little and skinnier sister would you be motivated to do it again? It will be hard.



What IG post?
I think the hope is they take a look at the online discourse about last night and take an us against them mentality. A large portion of their own fanbase jumped off the bandwagon last night. Same thing happened in 2020 when we got steam rolled by Russia to open the tournament. The only answers are in that room.
 
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Fans bashing Canada... They mashed the finnish team with their high intensity and energy the night before in the last game as well. Not did they only win, they did it convincingly. Of course they would be a bit gassed the day after.
Also, Finns barely won against Germany with good goaltending. And even if the Latvian team are young, it's their best generation ever. Osmanis and Murnieks are future NHL'ers and Mateiko was really, really good yesterday. The Latvians played really well. More than Canada being bad.
And as I mentioned already, you were superior against Finland. Finns were shit and barely survived against the germans.
My point is, the finns never brung the same energy as the canadians to that first game. So you guys have at least seen one game where Canada shows that they are here to compete.

This loss will make your guys hungry against the US and the playoffs. I actually think this will make your guys beat the US and perhaps even winning the gold before Sweden in the end. Cheer up.

Even if I'm worried about Mikkola being clueless and the Finnish players actual talent level compared to the Canadians and others, I'm almost glad we lost against you in the group stage.
They' ll understand that to beat you or the US they need to bring their A game and that it won't even be enough if your guys bring it as well.
And yeah, I'm sure the Canadians will think alike after this latest loss.
 
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1 bad game in the pre-lims doesn't mean much. But it does mess with the confidence of a team in such a short tournament. They should be embarrassed, but hopefully they can refocus & gel now.
 
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I mean, Martone has been pretty ineffective when he’s been on the ice. Rehkopf should play, yes, and there are likely some different line combinations that Cameron could look at with Rehkopf in the lineup but honestly unless the players play harder, work harder to get to the dirty areas, play more physical on the forecheck, and finish better, this team ain’t going anywhere. My view is that Canada has the horses to do it, but they need to raise their level of play several notches.

Obviously the PP has been atrocious and I suspect Cameron will make some changes there today, but the PK is equally concerning to me. We should not be giving up two PP goals to Latvia. Overall the team looked disorganized last night, with the poor special teams play, poor effort overall and embarrassing bench minor in OT symptomatic of poor preparation.

Losing Schaefer would be a huge blow, but the team has an opportunity to right a few wrongs by calling up Parekh if that’s the case (I only say Parekh because he’s in the O and could be in Ottawa quicker than Yak, presumably). Rostering Mynio would be a mistake as he’s redundant with a few d-men already on the team. That would require Cameron to swallow some pride. Is he up to it? Probably not, but it’s the right move. He owes it to the players on the team.

About a month ago I spoke of Cameron’s stubbornness and unwillingness/inability to adapt to new facts and circumstances. We’re seeing that now. Bonk as the PP QB for two games. Not dressing an elite trigger man in Rehkopf. Not re-configuring the lines. There is some good in there, as he’s allowed Schaefer and Molendyk to roam a little and drive the puck deep (something he doesn’t do often in Ottawa), but the same stubbornness around player selection persists. We don’t need Gauthier AND Howe AND Cataford AND Pinelli (though he’s been pretty good) AND Luchanko. All the concerns I had around this team when Cameron was announced as the coach are now coming to fruition.

Good news is that Canada is in no way, shape or form out of it, but the team has some work to do and Cameron has to set his ego at the door to guide this team through that. Big opportunity here for all involved.
 

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I think the hope is they take a look at the online discourse about last night and take an us against them mentality. A large portion of their own fanbase jumped off the bandwagon last night. Same thing happened in 2020 when we got steam rolled by Russia to open the tournament. The only answers are in that room.

The funny thing is, I totally forgot about that. It was the 2nd game, and we did get trounced 6-0. Fair points, we never remember that since we remember the classic gold medal game between Canada and Russia a week later. I will say this though, that is a spanking, but at least it is Russia. And Canada dominated every game after that until the gold medal game where they still won but it was close. I never jump off the bandwagon because I still cheer for them. But I do get mad at them for things. And I do still remember Kazakhstan from 1998. You remember those shocking losses to a team you ought to have trounced. Gold or not, whatever we do, no one will forget Latvia. That's just a stain.

Just came here to say. Losing to latvia in any situation, any tourny, any form of hockey including ringette is unacceptable and embarrassing.

Thank you. This is bulletin board material. I'd have had that hanging in the dressing room right above the door as they walk out.
 
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Crosby2010

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Good news is that Canada is in no way, shape or form out of it, but the team has some work to do and Cameron has to set his ego at the door to guide this team through that. Big opportunity here for all involved.

I see visions of sugar plums, and the 2011 Gold medal game, dancing in my head. I saw the guy's post game conference and all. He didn't look mad, he didn't look upset, he didn't take the blame, but instead acted as if "Oh well, Latvia played well, so..........." Ummm, no. It's Latvia and you lost to them. Own it. I don't always like Paul Maurice, but I can remember in 2021 when Vegas was losing in the series to Montreal and in his post game news conference he admitted that his team shouldn't be losing to a team of the caliber of Montreal. At least admit this as a coach. Do what you are supposed to do. That wasn't it last night.
 
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I also wanted to note the poor results on faceoff last night (under 50% won by Canada overall, and 6/18 in the o-zone)….that’s really really bad.

And as far as physicality is concerned, where is it? Ineffective forecheck, no forcing of turnovers by the Latvian d-men, no separation of puck carrier from the puck. Isn’t that what all those grinders are there to do?
 
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There's a lot of questions to be asked on who got left off the roster but there's also some on how the roster is being used.

Martone and Rehkopf have both been fantastic together and one is scratched while the other barely plays. How isn't this a line?


Parekh / Misa are probably not getting a call after liking that IG post.

It's petty but I'd be stunned if they get a look now.
It’s social media. If Team Canada brass are pretty enough to leave them off the team for that, then they deserve the team they get.
 

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Salmond has needed to go for a long time, but the Anholt choice continues to be perplexing and unacceptable. The guy has won nothing in junior hockey (spare me the Hlinka where Canada nearly wins by default) and presided over a shambolic team last year - he should be gone. These teams should be built by people who have demonstrated that they can win in junior hockey.

Scott Wheeler actually is willing to correctly criticize this team where TSN won't (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6006859/2024/12/27/canada-latvia-world-juniors-2025/) and you can see that the Hockey Canada braintrust just doesn't get it. Anholt proudly emphasizing that he really knows the players this year, Walker flying out to meet Molendyk and Yager and emphasize that they need to set a higher standard. Here is what they need to do - pick better teams you dopes. 2024 was not an overly talented group, but 2025 is. Pick your elite talent and then throw in a couple of high end role players, don't pick half a team of role players. Pick coaches who have had a lot of success in their junior leagues, not dumbasses like Letang. Don't pick Cameron to coach a group of players that projects to make a team that is nothing like what Cameron likes. Hold an actual camp because guess what.... you aren't smart enough to know what the team should be before all the players come together.

Anyway going forward for this team, which is not yet a lost cause, some changes need to be made. I'd say that the defence should stay mostly the same, though Dickinson needs to move up with Schaefer likely out. The structure has been fine at even strength. The forwards need changes. Ritchie has probably been the best forward on the team and Cowan has played pretty well, but Nadeau has added little to nothing on the top line. He should be dropped to Yager's line to give Yager someone to play with, especially a playmaker since Yager is probably the most assertive forward, along with Cowan, when it comes to being willing to take a shot from a threatening area. Rhkopf should not have been scratched to start with, so it's time to scratch Cataford and utilize Rehkopf's much needed skillset. I have no issue with how Pinelli has played but McKenna and Catton need someone with some size who can also open up some space for them. Something along the lines of:

Rehkopf Ritchie Cowan
McKenna Catton Martone
Nadeau Yager Pinelli
LW Luchanko RW

Should be tried. The power play drastically needs to be overhauled as we all know. Bonk needs to be gone. Molendyk for unit 1 and Dickinson, who has yet t show much yet I must admit, on unit 2. Rehkopf rather than Nadeau, and Howe gone. Unit two hasn't scored but it at least makes sense on paper.

I don't think the team is a write off yet but changes are in order and the result should not distract from the clear flaws in the Hockey Canada process. Most people in this thread are correct, though I am sure that there is mindless cheerleading and hand wringing about people rightly complaining from a poster of two who were rightly ignored years ago. It is unfortunate when fans are more reliable than the people put in charge to make these teams, but that is the case for Canada at the junior level most times.

I suspect with Nadeau, it’s one of those situations whereby Carolina/Chicago agreed to release him under the condition he plays top-6 minutes. Nadeau is a very good player but I find the coach is handcuffed in those situations
 

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I don't know who was coaching Team Canada last night??? Dave Cameron or Dove Cameron, because this team needs some plastic surgery work on special teams (PP and PK), and the shootout in order to be consistent in their next games against Germany and USA. If Canada plays sloppy against those teams like they did against Latvia last night, they will not win gold nor even a medal in this tournament.
 

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